>From The Cork Examiner, 3 June 1879 - EMIGRATION TO QUEENSLAND.--In accordance with orders issued from the Agent-General of Emigration for Queensland to the Sub-agent at Mallow, the Free Emigration System to the far off climes of Queensland, has been closed to those persons who may wish to emigrate from the district of Mallow. Since the Government have adopted this rather unexpected measure, I am informed numerous applications to emigrate have been made to the agent at Mallow, not alone by the usual class of emigrants, but by small farmers, who, owing to the late failure of crops in the country, met with reverse of fortune, and, much to their disappointment, they found for some reason, best known to the Government, that emigration to the colonies was closed against them.--Correspondent. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | Ireland Newspaper Abstracts Acton, Massachusetts | http://www.IrelandOldNews.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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> On 1 Jun 2007, at 02:01, [email protected] wrote: > > I have a family who came over to the U.S. from Ireland in the 1860's > then went back to Ireland in 1871 and came back to the U.S. again in > late 1870's. Were would I look in Ireland county Cork I think for > ships lists coming to Ireland from the U.S.. Around the time of the Civil War in America, the British government was on the alert for potential troublemakers arriving from abroad, particularly adherents to the Fenian cause whose aim was rebellion in Ireland. For a period of time they recorded information on passengers arrivals in Irish and English ports. I'm not sure if it was all passengers, or just males, or just males of Irish origin. Eneclann has compiled these passenger lists into a searchable CDROM. I'm not sure where the originals are, probably at the British national archives at Kew. While this database would not help you if they went back to Ireland in 1871, your question prompted me to let other list readers know about this database. See: Returning Home: Transatlantic Migration from North America to Britain & Ireland 1858-1870 http://www.eneclann.ie/acatalog/All_Releases_En.html

Hi Moira and Anthony hope you don't mind my input but this may interest you Ship lists and access to all databases For anyone interested ancestry.com has another 3 day free trial on and you don't have to give credit card details the link is:- http://www.ancestry.com/security/deny.aspx?sub=2129924&dbid=1004&url=http% 3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1841Scotland%26indiv%3dtry%26h%3d2403188%26requr%3d2129924%26ur% 3d32768&gsfn=&gsln just copy and paste to your browser it should take you to the page where you sign up with a user name and valid email addy, plus there is another offer still running which gives access to all US military records until the 6th June. > On 1 Jun 2007, at 02:01, [email protected] wrote: > > I have a family who came over to the U.S. from Ireland in the 1860's > then went back to Ireland in 1871 and came back to the U.S. again in > late 1870's. Were would I look in Ireland county Cork I think for > ships lists coming to Ireland from the U.S.. > > Thanks very much Anthony Long > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COUNTYCORK- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

Thanks very much for your reply. Anthony Long -------------- Original message -------------- From: moira hannam <[email protected]> > Anthony > A few years ago I was trying to find ships passenger lists coming to > England from USA around 1880/90. I spoke to someone at the records > office at Kew in London and they have ships lists, but you do have to > search them yourself or pay a researcher as they don't provide a > search service, which means you need to have an idea of the names of > ships or year of arrival unless you have plenty to spend on research > as it was expensive to have searches done privately. I would think > that there is a good chance that Kew would have the records you > require as most of the ships going out to USA seem to have docked in > England also. Unfortunately, I did not have the money to pay a > researcher so I'm still no nearer finding when my family actually > arrived here. > > Good luck > > moira hannam > [email protected] > > genealogy webpage > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~moirahannam/index.html > > > > > On 1 Jun 2007, at 02:01, [email protected] wrote: > > I have a family who came over to the U.S. from Ireland in the 1860's > then went back to Ireland in 1871 and came back to the U.S. again in > late 1870's. Were would I look in Ireland county Cork I think for > ships lists coming to Ireland from the U.S.. > > Thanks very much Anthony Long > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COUNTYCORK- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I like to thank everyone who been so helpful on my Harrington/Sullivan post, i will see what i can find out, but i just learnt of a death of someone so am not feeling up to doing reseach right now will get back to it shortly thanks again to all Regards Janice _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/

Anthony A few years ago I was trying to find ships passenger lists coming to England from USA around 1880/90. I spoke to someone at the records office at Kew in London and they have ships lists, but you do have to search them yourself or pay a researcher as they don't provide a search service, which means you need to have an idea of the names of ships or year of arrival unless you have plenty to spend on research as it was expensive to have searches done privately. I would think that there is a good chance that Kew would have the records you require as most of the ships going out to USA seem to have docked in England also. Unfortunately, I did not have the money to pay a researcher so I'm still no nearer finding when my family actually arrived here. Good luck moira hannam [email protected] genealogy webpage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~moirahannam/index.html On 1 Jun 2007, at 02:01, [email protected] wrote: I have a family who came over to the U.S. from Ireland in the 1860's then went back to Ireland in 1871 and came back to the U.S. again in late 1870's. Were would I look in Ireland county Cork I think for ships lists coming to Ireland from the U.S.. Thanks very much Anthony Long ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COUNTYCORK- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a family who came over to the U.S. from Ireland in the 1860's then went back to Ireland in 1871 and came back to the U.S. again in late 1870's. Were would I look in Ireland county Cork I think for ships lists coming to Ireland from the U.S.. Thanks very much Anthony Long

Hello again Janice. I am no expert on Irish research but with the actual information you have from the census you are quite lucky. I would think that with Ellen being born in Kilmeen and Catherine born in Castleventry it is possible that Daniel and Ellen were also married around there. It might be worth contacting the parish priest to see if they know if there are records for the church for that time and where they are kept. >From a Google search it looks like this would be the contact: Very Rev. Augustine Keating PP Rossmore, Clonakilty County Cork e-address: [email protected] Hope this helps. Cheers, Patsy Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] Harrington/Sullivan McCarthy > Hi Pasty > Thank you so much for your imput i agree that it looks like the parents & > daughters born in Cork somewhere i had hoped that later census may help > but it don't, & of course the 1841 don't give much on it anyway. > I am not sure how to proceed with trying to find their births & the > marriage of Daniel & Ellen, one thing i have seen on the 1851 census a few > pages on from Daniel address 6 New Court (daniel being at 1 new court) > there is a another family of Harrington's which has a 11 year old Daniel > but not only that there is some McCarthy's there now Ellen the daughter > married a McCarthy so could be they all are related, I know that Ellen's > father in law Dennis McCarthy was born Cork (again don't know where) but > he was married in Clerkenwell in 1828 so was here quite a long time before > the Harringtons. > If you or anyone else knows how to look up the records for someone who > can't get to Ireland or has access to a LDS history centre are they > available online or anything i appreciate any help > Regards Janice

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Hi Pasty Thank you so very much i will e-mail the priest, & i let you know what i find out thanks again Regards Janice >From: "Patricia O'Shea" <[email protected]> >To: "Janice Aitkens" ><[email protected]>,<[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] Harrington/Sullivan McCarthy >Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:13:31 +1200 > >Hello again Janice. I am no expert on Irish research but with the actual >information you have from the census you are quite lucky. > >I would think that with Ellen being born in Kilmeen and Catherine born in >Castleventry it is possible that Daniel and Ellen were also married around >there. > >It might be worth contacting the parish priest to see if they know if there >are records for the church for that time and where they are kept. > >From a Google search it looks like this would be the contact: > >Very Rev. Augustine Keating PP >Rossmore, Clonakilty >County Cork >e-address: [email protected] > >Hope this helps. >Cheers, Patsy > _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/

Hi Janice - not much help here but all the birthplaces in 1851 are prefaced by 'Cork'. It is very faint but begins beside Daniel's name. I think daughter Catherine's birthplace is Castleventry and there is a parish in Cork called Kilmeen and Castleventry. This ties in with the birthplace for Ellen being Kilmeen. Daughter Ellen's birthplace might be Rosscarbery which seems very near Castleventry, but it is pretty faint. Can't quite decipher Daniel's birthplace but looks as though it starts with Kill - others may have more luck identifying it. Could be Killnagross maybe but it's just a guess. Hope this gives you a few pointers. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. Subject: [COUNTYCORK] Harrington/Sullivan McCarthy >I have a family Called Harrington Father Daniel, which I got from a >marriage > certificate of Ellen his daughter when she married a John McCarthy in Sept > 1851 St George's Church Southwark England, I found them on the 1851 census > in London & from what the census say it looks like they give places of > birth > below, (James I have the birth certificate so his birth is confirmed) > > 1 Daniel Harrington > ********* > Birth: abt 1801, > Occ: Weaver > > Census: 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Willeigroph, Essex, > England looks like on image as Hillergarth > > Spouse: Ellen Sullivan > Birth: abt 1799 > > Census: 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Killmeen, Essex, > England looks like on image as Killween > > > Children: Catherine (~1827-) > Ellen (~1832-) > James (1837-) > > 1.1 Catherine Harrington > ********* > Birth: abt 1827, > > Census: 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Eastterenter, Essex, > England looks like on image as Castlecerth' > > 1.2 Ellen Harrington > ********* > Birth: abt 1832, > > Census: 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Ro??, Essex, England > looks like on image as 'Ros--bler' > > Spouse: John McCarthy > Birth: abt 1830, Southwark London > Father: Denis McCarthy (~1805-) > Mother: Johannah Martin > Marr: 14 Sep 1851, St George's Catholic Church Southwark > > Children: William (1855-) > > 1.2.1 William McCarthy > ********* > Birth: 26 Aug 1855, 63 Pear Tree Court Clerkenwell Middlesex > Death: Before 23/8/1908 > Occ: Printer > > On Marriage in 1874 Printer & on John's Birth > > Spouse: Jane Sarah Walker > Birth: 11 May 1857, Faulkens Alley Saffron Hill Middlesex > Father: Joseph Walker (~1820-) > Mother: Eliza Brooks (~1821-) > Marr: 6 Apr 1874, St Thomas Church, Bethnal Green > > William was at 1 Ann St & Jane at 12 Ann St > Witnesses William Lacey & the Mark of ? Lacey > > Children: John (1884-1946) > > 1.3 James Harrington > ********* > Birth: 1 Oct 1837, Pepe Lane Temple Bristol > > Birth registred in Sub-district of St Mary Redcliff in the city & county > of > Bristol > > Census: 1851 gives Bristol as in Somerset > > > Ellen the daughter's father in law who is Dennis McCarthy (she married > William McCarthy 1851) gives birth place as Cork Ireland, can you help > with > any of these > Regards Janice > > _________________________________________________________________ > The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Father, I am trying to find the marriage records of Cornelius Keane and Mary O'Leary who were from Drimoleague area of Co. Cork. The parish they may have been married in maybe Drimoleague Catholic Church, or Caheragh Catholic Parish. I'm not sure of the marriage date but there first child was born in April of 1829 so a proximate year would be 1828 02 1829. They raised 8 children that I know. Daniel b-1829; Cornelius b-1832; Margaret b-1831; Hannah or Joan . She stayed in Ireland and married there. Catherine b-1830's; Mary b- 1835; Ellen b-1838 and Dennis b-1840. Dennis is my direct line. If you find either birth dates or marriage date for Cornelius and Mary O'Leary I would sure appreciate it. Thank you for any assistance in this matter, I am, Mary Kane Durley [email protected]

Hi Pasty Thank you so much for your imput i agree that it looks like the parents & daughters born in Cork somewhere i had hoped that later census may help but it don't, & of course the 1841 don't give much on it anyway. I am not sure how to proceed with trying to find their births & the marriage of Daniel & Ellen, one thing i have seen on the 1851 census a few pages on from Daniel address 6 New Court (daniel being at 1 new court) there is a another family of Harrington's which has a 11 year old Daniel but not only that there is some McCarthy's there now Ellen the daughter married a McCarthy so could be they all are related, I know that Ellen's father in law Dennis McCarthy was born Cork (again don't know where) but he was married in Clerkenwell in 1828 so was here quite a long time before the Harringtons. If you or anyone else knows how to look up the records for someone who can't get to Ireland or has access to a LDS history centre are they available online or anything i appreciate any help Regards Janice >From: "Patricia O'Shea" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >CC: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] Harrington/Sullivan McCarthy >Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:32:49 +1200 > >Hi Janice - not much help here but all the birthplaces in 1851 are prefaced >by 'Cork'. It is very faint but begins beside Daniel's name. > >I think daughter Catherine's birthplace is Castleventry and there is a >parish in Cork called Kilmeen and Castleventry. This ties in with the >birthplace for Ellen being Kilmeen. > >Daughter Ellen's birthplace might be Rosscarbery which seems very near >Castleventry, but it is pretty faint. Can't quite decipher Daniel's >birthplace but looks as though it starts with Kill - others may have more >luck identifying it. Could be Killnagross maybe but it's just a guess. > >Hope this gives you a few pointers. >Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. > > >Subject: [COUNTYCORK] Harrington/Sullivan McCarthy > > >>I have a family Called Harrington Father Daniel, which I got from a >>marriage >>certificate of Ellen his daughter when she married a John McCarthy in Sept >>1851 St George's Church Southwark England, I found them on the 1851 census >>in London & from what the census say it looks like they give places of >>birth >>below, (James I have the birth certificate so his birth is confirmed) >> >>1 Daniel Harrington >>********* >>Birth: abt 1801, >>Occ: Weaver >> >>Census: 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Willeigroph, Essex, >>England looks like on image as Hillergarth >> >>Spouse: Ellen Sullivan >>Birth: abt 1799 >> >>Census: 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Killmeen, Essex, >>England looks like on image as Killween >> >> >>Children: Catherine (~1827-) >>Ellen (~1832-) >>James (1837-) >> >>1.1 Catherine Harrington >>********* >>Birth: abt 1827, >> >>Census: 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Eastterenter, Essex, >>England looks like on image as Castlecerth' >> >>1.2 Ellen Harrington >>********* >>Birth: abt 1832, >> >>Census: 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Ro??, Essex, England >>looks like on image as 'Ros--bler' >> >>Spouse: John McCarthy >>Birth: abt 1830, Southwark London >>Father: Denis McCarthy (~1805-) >>Mother: Johannah Martin >>Marr: 14 Sep 1851, St George's Catholic Church Southwark >> >>Children: William (1855-) >> >>1.2.1 William McCarthy >>********* >>Birth: 26 Aug 1855, 63 Pear Tree Court Clerkenwell Middlesex >>Death: Before 23/8/1908 >>Occ: Printer >> >>On Marriage in 1874 Printer & on John's Birth >> >>Spouse: Jane Sarah Walker >>Birth: 11 May 1857, Faulkens Alley Saffron Hill Middlesex >>Father: Joseph Walker (~1820-) >>Mother: Eliza Brooks (~1821-) >>Marr: 6 Apr 1874, St Thomas Church, Bethnal Green >> >>William was at 1 Ann St & Jane at 12 Ann St >>Witnesses William Lacey & the Mark of ? Lacey >> >>Children: John (1884-1946) >> >>1.3 James Harrington >>********* >>Birth: 1 Oct 1837, Pepe Lane Temple Bristol >> >>Birth registred in Sub-district of St Mary Redcliff in the city & county >>of >>Bristol >> >>Census: 1851 gives Bristol as in Somerset >> >> >>Ellen the daughter's father in law who is Dennis McCarthy (she married >>William McCarthy 1851) gives birth place as Cork Ireland, can you help >>with >>any of these >>Regards Janice >> _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/

I visited Cobh last October 2006. I found no research center. Only the museum Dennis mentioned. It may still be worth a visit as a tourist attraction. Also, see Colmans Cathedral(?) up on the hill. Very nice, very large. We walked the streets of Cobh's "downtown". Many small mom and pop type places. Also, you pass a large garden(?) / animal park(?) going into Cobh. We ran out of time but I heard it was nice. Park along the dock area. I think it was free. Out side the centre you have to get the parking disk. You may feel rushed. One of the French (?) ferry / vacation excursions ships docked just before we arrived. We had seen it enter from the other side as we were sight seeing / looking for a cemetery that may have hold departed relatives in Monkstown area. Try the Cork Library in "downtown" Cork City or the other library (Cork county?) at the Cork Institute of Technology. Parking costs "downtown" but the copies were 0.05 or 0.10(?) euro per. At CIT parking was free but copies were more .20 or 0.25 euros(?) per. Mike in Ohio Dennis Ahern wrote: > > [email protected] asked: > >> Want to go to the History Center in Cobh during a visit to Ireland in 17 >> days!! Do you have to make a reservation? What should I bring for >> research? > > > Why not email them at [email protected] and ask them? > >> Any other bits of wisdom regarding genealogy-hunting before departing? > > > I've been there twice, but only to see the museum, which is very > interesting. My understanding of their genealogical research service is > that it is limited to looking things up on John Grenham's CDROM. Not > that that might not be worth doing. It's just that the Cobh Heritage > Centre would not be high up on my list of places to do genealogical > research in County Cork. Both the County and Cork City Libraries would > be a richer environment for historical or genealogical research. Perhaps > someone who has used the services offered by the Cobh Heritage Centre > can comment. > > See: http://www.cork-guide.ie/cobh/heritage-centre/index.htm > Cobh Heritage Centre Emigration Museum >

[email protected] asked: >Want to go to the History Center in Cobh during a visit to Ireland in 17 >days!! Do you have to make a reservation? What should I bring for >research? Why not email them at [email protected] and ask them? >Any other bits of wisdom regarding genealogy-hunting before departing? I've been there twice, but only to see the museum, which is very interesting. My understanding of their genealogical research service is that it is limited to looking things up on John Grenham's CDROM. Not that that might not be worth doing. It's just that the Cobh Heritage Centre would not be high up on my list of places to do genealogical research in County Cork. Both the County and Cork City Libraries would be a richer environment for historical or genealogical research. Perhaps someone who has used the services offered by the Cobh Heritage Centre can comment. See: http://www.cork-guide.ie/cobh/heritage-centre/index.htm Cobh Heritage Centre Emigration Museum

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I looked at the site & can't find a site giving the records one does but no luck, as i am not certain where i am looking for as the names which someone thinks it is they are not parishes either if anyone can come up with anything here the family Name: Daniel Harrington ********* Birth: abt 1801 Occupation: Weaver Spouse: Ellen Sullivan ********* Birth: abt 1799 Children: ********* 1 F: Catherine Harrington Birth: abt 1827 ********* 2 F: Ellen Harrington Birth: abt 1832 Spouse: John McCarthy Marriage: 14 Sep 1851 St George's Catholic Church Southwark ********* 3 M: James Harrington Birth: 1 Oct 1837 Pepe Lane Temple Bristol Census Notes for Daniel Harrington 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Willeigroph, Essex, England looks like on image as Hillergarth & believed to come from Cork Ireland Census Notes for Ellen Sullivan 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Killmeen, Essex, England looks like on image as Killween believed to come from Cork Ireland Census Notes for Catherine (Child 1) 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Eastterenter, Essex, England looks like on image as Castlecerth' believed to come from Cork Ireland Census Notes for Ellen (Child 2) 1851 census gives birth place as transcribed Ro??, Essex, England looks like on image as 'Ros--bler' believed to come from Cork Ireland Census Notes for James (Child 3) 1851 gives Bristol as in Somerset Misc. Notes Birth registred in Sub-district of St Mary Redcliff in the city & county of Bristol ********* So Any help would be appreciated Regards Janice >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] Catholic Parish Records >Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:35:30 EDT > >Hi Janice, On- line records for Cork try this link _* County cork_ >(http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm) records, It has >quite a few. > Good Luck Dave Blair, in Sunny New England > > _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/

Thanks a lot will see what i can find Regards Janice >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [COUNTYCORK] Catholic Parish Records >Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:35:30 EDT > >Hi Janice, On- line records for Cork try this link _* County cork_ >(http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm) records, It has >quite a few. > Good Luck Dave Blair, in Sunny New England > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/

Hi Janice, On- line records for Cork try this link _* County cork_ (http://myhome.ispdr.net.au/~mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm) records, It has quite a few. Good Luck Dave Blair, in Sunny New England ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.