oh? Is there info on Martin or John on Bills site now? some are saying kentucky lines are gone ----- Original Message ----- From: <kathyl@sssnet.com> To: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > Yes Sam.....the chart copied below is one from Bill's site and other I was > talking about is the narrative one on JPD's site. > > I've always thought it odd that there seems to be few if any I've ever found > who had kids they named after Martin? Do you know of any others? The > namesake thing is very strong as you know with these families and for Martin > "supposedly" being father of all those descendants .....well, there just > aren't any I've located named after him. But....I haven't looked real close > on some of them. > > There is a Martin Couch, age 15 with my gg-grandpa Harvy, age 8 and the > Lucas family in 1860 Breathitt Co. census. I thought maybe name of Martin > might be a clue but seems the Lucas woman, America is a Mann and her > ancestor is also a Martin. Have not pinned down the connection here totally > yet but Harvy's brother Eli did marry Emily Jane Mann. > > Sorry.....rambling again :-) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> > To: <kathyl@sssnet.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > > > > What Martin Couch line on Bills site? > > Is there one there? > > and be advised there is other Martins other than Johns "son" > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <kathyl@sssnet.com> > > To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 3:59 PM > > Subject: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > > > > > > > I need to express concern over data found on the web regarding the > Martin > > > Couch line in KY. It is very frustrating to try and get anything done > in > > > helping others with their families. I believe the following is the > > primary > > > reason. In comparing two charts (links below) commonly used by KY > > > researchers, I find the following: > > > > > > Martin Couch b. 1875 Ashe Co. NC, m. Sarah Hall b. 1785 VA abt. 1804. > > > Their first son was Joseph b. 1805, NC. In 1808 Andrew was born in VA > > and > > > the same year Elisah was born NC. These must be twins and their mother > is > > > surely in the Guiness Book of World records for time between their birth > > > needed to travel to another state? So...they stayed in NC for birth of > > Eel > > > in 1810 and then Thomas in 1812. By 1813 they returned to Perry Co. KY > > for > > > birth of Ira and Nellie...twins again? Guess they just had to beat > their > > > own record!....Seems Nellie was born in Tennessee! Wow...Amazing! > > > Well....these nomads just couldn't stay put long so by 1815 they went > back > > > to Virginia for birth of John. Home in Perry Co. KY was calling again > by > > > 1816 when son Charles was born. All that travel must have taken it's > toll > > > as next two sons Samuel and Levi were born 1820 and 1825. It is > rumored > > > however that Levi who lived in Wolfe Co. KY may have been adopted since > > his > > > DEATH CERTIFICATE lists parents as John Couch and Mary Jones?? It is > also > > > believed that Martin and Sarah had just 4 children.....or 11........or > 16! > > > Reckon we can take our pick. Afterall, everyone knows ALL the Couches > in > > KY > > > come from Martin :-/ > > > > > > Ok, now I've had my fun with the sarcasm. The couchgenweb chart for > > Martin > > > has TWELVE researchers listed. We're all thankful to Bill for his > > > willingness to make space and try to put these people together to work > on > > > their common families. The chart posted is what these families have > > > submitted and the data at the Perry Co. Genweb site is the work of one > > > person. As you can see there are major problems here and proper > > attention > > > is long overdue. Who is responsible for straightening this out? Come > on > > > KY!...let's see some shared interest and ideas for getting this fixed! > > > > > > Now I can enjoy a week of vacation :-) > > > > > > Kathleen Couch Latshaw (Kathy) > > > Kentucky Couch Kin > > > http://swapasource.com > > > > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyperry/ (narrative form) > > > > > > http://www.couchgenweb.com/ > > > > > > 1-- Martin COUCH-17 (1785-1856) ,New River,Ashe Co.,North Carolina > > > sp-Sarah (Sallie) HALL-110 (1785- ) ,,,Virginia > > > 2-- Joseph COUCH-26 (1805-1898) ,New Rivers,Ashe Co.,North Carolina > > > sp-Mary Ann STIDHAM-25 (1817- ) ,,,Virginia > > > 2-- Andrew COUCH-4 (1808- ) ,,,Virginia > > > sp-Ann-121 (1809- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > 2-- Elisah COUCH-35 (1808- ) Ashe,North Carolina > > > sp-Serena KILBURN-22 (1806- ) ,,,North Carolina > > > sp-Cerena PENNINGTON-188 (1817- ) ,,,Virginia > > > 2-- Eli "Eel" COUCH-29 (1810-1885) ,,,North Carolina > > > sp-Mahala Sally SIZEMORE-30 (1814- ) ,Leslie,,Kentucky > > > 2-- Thomas Alfred COUCH-117 (1812-1858) ,,Ashe Co.,North Carolina > > > sp-Elizabeth CAMPBELL-116 (1814- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > 2-- Sira or Ira COUCH-105 (1813-1911) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > sp-Parminia "Nina" COMBS-19 (1821-1908) ,Hazard,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > 2-- Nellie COUCH-300 (1813- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > sp-Lewis MILAM-301 (1796- ) > > > 2-- John C. COUCH-59 (1815- ) ,,,Virginia > > > sp-Rachel COMBS-8 (1823- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > 2-- Charles COUCH-11 (1816- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > sp-Elizabeth CAMPBELL-76 (1812- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > 2-- Samuel COUCH-305 (1820- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > 2-- Levi COUCH-231 (1825- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > >
Just looked.....it's still there. Oops...wait a min. Getting error 404 on page once I click it. Hmmmm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > oh? Is there info on Martin or John on Bills site now? > > some are saying kentucky lines are gone > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <kathyl@sssnet.com> > To: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 2:18 PM > Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > > > > Yes Sam.....the chart copied below is one from Bill's site and other I was > > talking about is the narrative one on JPD's site. > > > > I've always thought it odd that there seems to be few if any I've ever > found > > who had kids they named after Martin? Do you know of any others? The > > namesake thing is very strong as you know with these families and for > Martin > > "supposedly" being father of all those descendants .....well, there just > > aren't any I've located named after him. But....I haven't looked real > close > > on some of them. > > > > There is a Martin Couch, age 15 with my gg-grandpa Harvy, age 8 and the > > Lucas family in 1860 Breathitt Co. census. I thought maybe name of Martin > > might be a clue but seems the Lucas woman, America is a Mann and her > > ancestor is also a Martin. Have not pinned down the connection here > totally > > yet but Harvy's brother Eli did marry Emily Jane Mann. > > > > Sorry.....rambling again :-) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> > > To: <kathyl@sssnet.com> > > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > > > > > > > What Martin Couch line on Bills site? > > > Is there one there? > > > and be advised there is other Martins other than Johns "son" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <kathyl@sssnet.com> > > > To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 3:59 PM > > > Subject: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > > > > > > > > > > I need to express concern over data found on the web regarding the > > Martin > > > > Couch line in KY. It is very frustrating to try and get anything done > > in > > > > helping others with their families. I believe the following is the > > > primary > > > > reason. In comparing two charts (links below) commonly used by KY > > > > researchers, I find the following: > > > > > > > > Martin Couch b. 1875 Ashe Co. NC, m. Sarah Hall b. 1785 VA abt. 1804. > > > > Their first son was Joseph b. 1805, NC. In 1808 Andrew was born in > VA > > > and > > > > the same year Elisah was born NC. These must be twins and their > mother > > is > > > > surely in the Guiness Book of World records for time between their > birth > > > > needed to travel to another state? So...they stayed in NC for birth > of > > > Eel > > > > in 1810 and then Thomas in 1812. By 1813 they returned to Perry Co. > KY > > > for > > > > birth of Ira and Nellie...twins again? Guess they just had to beat > > their > > > > own record!....Seems Nellie was born in Tennessee! Wow...Amazing! > > > > Well....these nomads just couldn't stay put long so by 1815 they went > > back > > > > to Virginia for birth of John. Home in Perry Co. KY was calling again > > by > > > > 1816 when son Charles was born. All that travel must have taken it's > > toll > > > > as next two sons Samuel and Levi were born 1820 and 1825. It is > > rumored > > > > however that Levi who lived in Wolfe Co. KY may have been adopted > since > > > his > > > > DEATH CERTIFICATE lists parents as John Couch and Mary Jones?? It is > > also > > > > believed that Martin and Sarah had just 4 children.....or 11........or > > 16! > > > > Reckon we can take our pick. Afterall, everyone knows ALL the Couches > > in > > > KY > > > > come from Martin :-/ > > > > > > > > Ok, now I've had my fun with the sarcasm. The couchgenweb chart for > > > Martin > > > > has TWELVE researchers listed. We're all thankful to Bill for his > > > > willingness to make space and try to put these people together to work > > on > > > > their common families. The chart posted is what these families have > > > > submitted and the data at the Perry Co. Genweb site is the work of one > > > > person. As you can see there are major problems here and proper > > > attention > > > > is long overdue. Who is responsible for straightening this out? Come > > on > > > > KY!...let's see some shared interest and ideas for getting this fixed! > > > > > > > > Now I can enjoy a week of vacation :-) > > > > > > > > Kathleen Couch Latshaw (Kathy) > > > > Kentucky Couch Kin > > > > http://swapasource.com > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyperry/ (narrative form) > > > > > > > > http://www.couchgenweb.com/ > > > > > > > > 1-- Martin COUCH-17 (1785-1856) ,New River,Ashe Co.,North Carolina > > > > sp-Sarah (Sallie) HALL-110 (1785- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > 2-- Joseph COUCH-26 (1805-1898) ,New Rivers,Ashe Co.,North Carolina > > > > sp-Mary Ann STIDHAM-25 (1817- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > 2-- Andrew COUCH-4 (1808- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > sp-Ann-121 (1809- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Elisah COUCH-35 (1808- ) Ashe,North Carolina > > > > sp-Serena KILBURN-22 (1806- ) ,,,North Carolina > > > > sp-Cerena PENNINGTON-188 (1817- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > 2-- Eli "Eel" COUCH-29 (1810-1885) ,,,North Carolina > > > > sp-Mahala Sally SIZEMORE-30 (1814- ) ,Leslie,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Thomas Alfred COUCH-117 (1812-1858) ,,Ashe Co.,North Carolina > > > > sp-Elizabeth CAMPBELL-116 (1814- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Sira or Ira COUCH-105 (1813-1911) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > sp-Parminia "Nina" COMBS-19 (1821-1908) ,Hazard,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Nellie COUCH-300 (1813- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > sp-Lewis MILAM-301 (1796- ) > > > > 2-- John C. COUCH-59 (1815- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > sp-Rachel COMBS-8 (1823- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Charles COUCH-11 (1816- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > sp-Elizabeth CAMPBELL-76 (1812- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Samuel COUCH-305 (1820- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Levi COUCH-231 (1825- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
One is still there for Joseph, VA with son Timothy but John Sr. and Martin not coming up. He emailed me before I went on vacation asking what he could do to help fix them. I haven't had chance to get back with him yet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > oh? Is there info on Martin or John on Bills site now? > > some are saying kentucky lines are gone > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <kathyl@sssnet.com> > To: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 2:18 PM > Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > > > > Yes Sam.....the chart copied below is one from Bill's site and other I was > > talking about is the narrative one on JPD's site. > > > > I've always thought it odd that there seems to be few if any I've ever > found > > who had kids they named after Martin? Do you know of any others? The > > namesake thing is very strong as you know with these families and for > Martin > > "supposedly" being father of all those descendants .....well, there just > > aren't any I've located named after him. But....I haven't looked real > close > > on some of them. > > > > There is a Martin Couch, age 15 with my gg-grandpa Harvy, age 8 and the > > Lucas family in 1860 Breathitt Co. census. I thought maybe name of Martin > > might be a clue but seems the Lucas woman, America is a Mann and her > > ancestor is also a Martin. Have not pinned down the connection here > totally > > yet but Harvy's brother Eli did marry Emily Jane Mann. > > > > Sorry.....rambling again :-) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> > > To: <kathyl@sssnet.com> > > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:26 PM > > Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > > > > > > > What Martin Couch line on Bills site? > > > Is there one there? > > > and be advised there is other Martins other than Johns "son" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <kathyl@sssnet.com> > > > To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 3:59 PM > > > Subject: [COUCH] Martin Couch KY Line > > > > > > > > > > I need to express concern over data found on the web regarding the > > Martin > > > > Couch line in KY. It is very frustrating to try and get anything done > > in > > > > helping others with their families. I believe the following is the > > > primary > > > > reason. In comparing two charts (links below) commonly used by KY > > > > researchers, I find the following: > > > > > > > > Martin Couch b. 1875 Ashe Co. NC, m. Sarah Hall b. 1785 VA abt. 1804. > > > > Their first son was Joseph b. 1805, NC. In 1808 Andrew was born in > VA > > > and > > > > the same year Elisah was born NC. These must be twins and their > mother > > is > > > > surely in the Guiness Book of World records for time between their > birth > > > > needed to travel to another state? So...they stayed in NC for birth > of > > > Eel > > > > in 1810 and then Thomas in 1812. By 1813 they returned to Perry Co. > KY > > > for > > > > birth of Ira and Nellie...twins again? Guess they just had to beat > > their > > > > own record!....Seems Nellie was born in Tennessee! Wow...Amazing! > > > > Well....these nomads just couldn't stay put long so by 1815 they went > > back > > > > to Virginia for birth of John. Home in Perry Co. KY was calling again > > by > > > > 1816 when son Charles was born. All that travel must have taken it's > > toll > > > > as next two sons Samuel and Levi were born 1820 and 1825. It is > > rumored > > > > however that Levi who lived in Wolfe Co. KY may have been adopted > since > > > his > > > > DEATH CERTIFICATE lists parents as John Couch and Mary Jones?? It is > > also > > > > believed that Martin and Sarah had just 4 children.....or 11........or > > 16! > > > > Reckon we can take our pick. Afterall, everyone knows ALL the Couches > > in > > > KY > > > > come from Martin :-/ > > > > > > > > Ok, now I've had my fun with the sarcasm. The couchgenweb chart for > > > Martin > > > > has TWELVE researchers listed. We're all thankful to Bill for his > > > > willingness to make space and try to put these people together to work > > on > > > > their common families. The chart posted is what these families have > > > > submitted and the data at the Perry Co. Genweb site is the work of one > > > > person. As you can see there are major problems here and proper > > > attention > > > > is long overdue. Who is responsible for straightening this out? Come > > on > > > > KY!...let's see some shared interest and ideas for getting this fixed! > > > > > > > > Now I can enjoy a week of vacation :-) > > > > > > > > Kathleen Couch Latshaw (Kathy) > > > > Kentucky Couch Kin > > > > http://swapasource.com > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyperry/ (narrative form) > > > > > > > > http://www.couchgenweb.com/ > > > > > > > > 1-- Martin COUCH-17 (1785-1856) ,New River,Ashe Co.,North Carolina > > > > sp-Sarah (Sallie) HALL-110 (1785- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > 2-- Joseph COUCH-26 (1805-1898) ,New Rivers,Ashe Co.,North Carolina > > > > sp-Mary Ann STIDHAM-25 (1817- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > 2-- Andrew COUCH-4 (1808- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > sp-Ann-121 (1809- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Elisah COUCH-35 (1808- ) Ashe,North Carolina > > > > sp-Serena KILBURN-22 (1806- ) ,,,North Carolina > > > > sp-Cerena PENNINGTON-188 (1817- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > 2-- Eli "Eel" COUCH-29 (1810-1885) ,,,North Carolina > > > > sp-Mahala Sally SIZEMORE-30 (1814- ) ,Leslie,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Thomas Alfred COUCH-117 (1812-1858) ,,Ashe Co.,North Carolina > > > > sp-Elizabeth CAMPBELL-116 (1814- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Sira or Ira COUCH-105 (1813-1911) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > sp-Parminia "Nina" COMBS-19 (1821-1908) ,Hazard,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Nellie COUCH-300 (1813- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > sp-Lewis MILAM-301 (1796- ) > > > > 2-- John C. COUCH-59 (1815- ) ,,,Virginia > > > > sp-Rachel COMBS-8 (1823- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Charles COUCH-11 (1816- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > sp-Elizabeth CAMPBELL-76 (1812- ) ,,,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Samuel COUCH-305 (1820- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > 2-- Levi COUCH-231 (1825- ) ,,Perry Co.,Kentucky > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >