Robert would lie me to send you what I have on the "John and James" Couch who are the two sons (I only know of two but probably there are others) of John Couch. Sure would be a lot simpler for me rather than trying to explain the stupid naming of respective children and besides this they married lst cousins and then some of the sons married their sister in laws when a brother died. Maybe later today before I am home but will email this mess if you wish. ellen