I just combined a couple chart and created a new one at http://www.couchgenweb.com/couch/joseph2.htm How about everyone looking this chart over and go through your bits and pices and see if you can find anything that may help. I beleive this may be the same Joseph who was with John Couch in Ashe Co. NC 1810 Census Joseph is in Overton Co. 1820 census and My daughter just found a Census with a Martin and Jame Crouch there also. May also the the James and Martin who was in Clay County Ky Which is very close. Now the one that are listed as researchers on this page. please contact me and let me know you are still working on them. Bill Couch