On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 14:38, Couch, Robert H. wrote: Sam, I got your listing of Tim Couch's line. 3,700 pages! No wonder my computer refused to accept your work. I overwhelmed it. But, with the careful documentation and sources you must have surely you can fathom a hypothesis about the common ancestor that Ron Couch and I have. I have documented evidence that Thomas Couch recieved land in Brunswick County, VA in 1720 (This Brunswick County area became Lunenburg Co, VA in 1746. There is a Couches creek just west of Lunenburg community and my sources say that is the area where Thomas Couched lived. There is evidence that Thomas Couch married an Elizabeth and had a son named Matthew in 1725. There are also land records that show a Thomas Couch giving/selling some of his land to Thomas Couch Jr. My projection that the Thomas Couch Jr that was born in 1720 was also the son of Thomas and Elizabeth. Other Brunswick County records show a William Couch and a James Couch there as well. Thus we have documented proof that the Couch family of Brunswick Co, VA had citizens there named Thomas Sr, Thomas Jr, Matthew, James and William. HOtten's list also names Thomas, William and James in VA in 1830. Orange County NC land records (I have an official map) shows that William and Thomas have land grants there near Hillsborough, NC and James Couch is nearby. Next we find Thomas Jr in Spartanburg SC along the banks of the Enoree river there. With him is a Matthew Couch, William Couch, James Couch, John Couch, Middleton Couch, Joseph Couch, Z. A. Couch, Benjamin Couch, Drury Couch. WE know that the son of Thomas Jr was a John Couch b. Orange County, NC in 1745. Now I have had to fill in the dots to make the kind of conservation hypothesis that this is my line. The DNA test shows that Danny Couch of NC is from the line of Thomas Couch Sr's brother William Couch. Ron Couch of KY, Dr Richard Couch of Oklahoma, Robert Murphy Couch of AR and Al, Bob Couch of TN, and others all know we have a common ancestor somewhere. I think that ancestor is the Thomas and Elizabeth Couch of Lunenburg, VA or the father of Thomas Couch Sr of Brunswick/Lunenburg Co, VA. What do you think? Perhaps Thomas Couch SR came down from Pennsylvinia or Conneticut. I just do not knonw and have just about exausted my search. Robert H. Couch Thomas Jr/James John.Joseph have been found in western Va also. Joyce has found them all in one area along with Daniel Boone... all prior 1778. "If" Thomas shares a common bond I believe it will be from PA or nor'easternern states. The evidence will be turned up later in western VA. Sam