On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 03:39, Bill Couch wrote: Windwalker wrote: That is sort of what I expected. now keep in mind that Ron took the DNA test and he is from the Martin Couch line. Chart at http://www.couchgenweb.com/couch/martinc.htm#rgc He came backin Group 5 and almost everyone in Group 5 can be traced back to VA. We have not found anyone in the DNA test from any of the Northern States to match up in Group 5 yet. Of cource I think we could still learn a lot's more from the DNA if we could get some of the other lines that have not been tested to find someone from their line's to take the test. We just got Edward Couch #7349 results back to day, and he was a match with the Meshack Couch line. Which is Group 3 Now on the John that is married to Elizabeth James I do not Show him to be in Buckingham Co. Va. but in North Carolina and as you say that is probably not Correct, The reason for North Carolina if he is a son of Old Thomas and was born around 1750 then his birth place would have been Orange Co. North Carolina. I have just started seeing this one listed as being a part of Old Thomas on the net in the last year. That was when I started to question both of the John's that have Claimed to be a son of old Thomas. Bill Couch Bill John very well could be the son of Thomas. But as ive noted your line goes to Buckingham.. Im finding John'/Joseph in western VA. And in the present day Charleston Wva area SO now I assume the whole John Couch of Ky birth date was prior set on thinking he was the son of Thomas?..So thence the 1750 era?? Im finding that John of Ky would more likely be born 1740ish Mind you at preaent all based on historical accounts of settled areas If so it sure would put him in total line for the Indian Wars for the full duration and might explaine that he was only in Indian War service and those records are real sketchy.. I find his know family/friends or cohorts were all Torys including Nick Combs and the Campbells This might explain why John is not listed in rev war service. He may have done service, but not as a regular OR he may have paid a slave to stand in for him, of which was common. So in conclusion your side has no known John Couch west of the montain range of VA in 1755-1766 era? which would be the old randolph Co Is this correct? If the birth date on John of Ky was set on the thinking he was son of Thomas and is not.. Then we may be able to account for him... Ive never thought he was born 1750 thoughts? Sam

Bill, Is the Edward Couch you recently got the DNA on my relative from Oklahoma who comes off our Benjamin Couch of Spartenburg, SC? Just checking. Bonnie Couch Segui -----Original Message----- From: Windwalker [mailto:windwalker@fastmail.fm] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:53 PM To: COUCH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [COUCH] Montgomery Joseph Couch On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 03:39, Bill Couch wrote: Windwalker wrote: That is sort of what I expected. now keep in mind that Ron took the DNA test and he is from the Martin Couch line. Chart at http://www.couchgenweb.com/couch/martinc.htm#rgc He came backin Group 5 and almost everyone in Group 5 can be traced back to VA. We have not found anyone in the DNA test from any of the Northern States to match up in Group 5 yet. Of cource I think we could still learn a lot's more from the DNA if we could get some of the other lines that have not been tested to find someone from their line's to take the test. We just got Edward Couch #7349 results back to day, and he was a match with the Meshack Couch line. Which is Group 3 Now on the John that is married to Elizabeth James I do not Show him to be in Buckingham Co. Va. but in North Carolina and as you say that is probably not Correct, The reason for North Carolina if he is a son of Old Thomas and was born around 1750 then his birth place would have been Orange Co. North Carolina. I have just started seeing this one listed as being a part of Old Thomas on the net in the last year. That was when I started to question both of the John's that have Claimed to be a son of old Thomas. Bill Couch Bill John very well could be the son of Thomas. But as ive noted your line goes to Buckingham.. Im finding John'/Joseph in western VA. And in the present day Charleston Wva area SO now I assume the whole John Couch of Ky birth date was prior set on thinking he was the son of Thomas?..So thence the 1750 era?? Im finding that John of Ky would more likely be born 1740ish Mind you at preaent all based on historical accounts of settled areas If so it sure would put him in total line for the Indian Wars for the full duration and might explaine that he was only in Indian War service and those records are real sketchy.. I find his know family/friends or cohorts were all Torys including Nick Combs and the Campbells This might explain why John is not listed in rev war service. He may have done service, but not as a regular OR he may have paid a slave to stand in for him, of which was common. So in conclusion your side has no known John Couch west of the montain range of VA in 1755-1766 era? which would be the old randolph Co Is this correct? If the birth date on John of Ky was set on the thinking he was son of Thomas and is not.. Then we may be able to account for him... Ive never thought he was born 1750 thoughts? Sam ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/2003