On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 17:17, Joyce H. Reeves wrote: Ron, I have a Moore line out of Owsley Co KY. I asked my aunt if we were related to some who were not our direct line. She said, "no relation - they're a different set". Well, what she didn't know is the different "sets" are all descended from James Moore and Ellender Hamilton of Augusta Co VA, who came to Madison/Clay/Owsley area KY early on before 1795. So when I hear there are "two differnet lines of Couches in eastern KY", I have to think they were related -- but further back -- maybe even from John and Joseph of 1800 Ashe County NC. It is evident John and Joseph were closely related. I am of the opinion it was Joseph of 1800 Ashe Co who came to Clay Co KY and was on a 1816 Tax List there, and never on any records thereafter. Did he go to TN, or further west? Joyce see Va records of approx tiemframe for john/joseph form mongomery co.. going back and forth to nc