For you that are keeping up with the Couch DNA there is a mail list for Genealogy-Dna at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GENEALOGY-DNA.html you should look at this ever now and then and see what is new going on in this field. Most of it is over my head but I still like to read about it. And Hopeful that other members of Our COUCH group will also read about it and get more involved with our Dna project. They are now saying the 12 y is of little use anymore but if this is all you can afford it will group you with one of our group of Couch's Bill Couch