Sam, My heartiest congratulations on finding (with documented proof) the existance of Mary Boone as a wife of John Couch. You were the doubting Thomas for you knew of no evidence documenting the exitance of Mary Polly Boon. However, rather than being content to dissent you went the extra mile and did what you had long advocated. Search for the truth in honest and dilligent and even expensive research. Now, despite your earier, justified doubts you have found the proof and have consented that there was indeed a Mary Boone. This is the sign of a really great researcher and I commend you highly. Now, for the next step back. Who was the father of your John Couch of Virginia. Ellen and Dr Richard Couch also have a Captain John Couch that was supposedly born before 1748 in England and migrated to Jamestown, VA. At this point no one has yet documented the existance of this Captain John Couch with observable, original sources. What I believe is my Couch line appears in what is now Lunenburg County,(formerly Prince George and Brunswick Counties, Virginia) as early as 1720. Thomas Couch's residence in Lunenburg along Couch's Creek is well documented along with probable relatives Thomas Couch JR, James Couch, William Couch, another John and Edward. Land records, Hotten's list of 1730, and court records all offer documentation of the Couches in Lunenburg County, VA. I know your reservations about the DNA but Ron Couch who is from your John & Martin Couch line; Richard Couch from the Captain John Couch line, Danny Couch from the William Couch line and my line from the Thomas Couch line all belong to Couch Group 5 DNA. They all were at one time known to be in Virginia. Thus all those listed above, as well as others in the group, have a common ancestor who was probably in Virginia. Several of the Group 5 members took the 25 marker DNA test and all had near perfect matches. This indicates that those in this DNA subgroup have a common ancestor within seven generations. Thus that common ancestor of so many of us must have been in Virginia. Now we need to use your great research skills, research methodology, and persistance to find the truth. I feel we are so close. Together we can solve this great mystery. Congratulations on your great find and the way in which you have sought the truth. You did not seek to prove you were right but you sought the truth and you are a great example of how we all should do research. Enough bickering and on to the TRUTH! Robert H. Couch ---------- >From: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> >To: COUCH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [COUCH] John Couch, Mary Boone, Elizabeth Campbell of VA/NC/KY >Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2003, 10:14 AM > >Documentation {original } has been found this summer, that in fact she >exsisted and was indeed > married to "A John Couch" >The original document has been looked at by other >Boon/Couch researchers. >The said doucmentation does not state birth year >or death, but indeed does state she is the wife of "a John Couch". The same >document also has the name "Joseph" in the same body of the document >although no last name for him. > The fact that so many was placing strong pressure on the name "Polly" was >misleading. >When infact "Polly" was a generic name of the era {colonial} >In colonial names Polly= elizabeth most of the time. >Even though no records were found per say in Ashe or others areas. It was >most likely due to the fact >Ashe was not a county at the time of her death. >This report was generated by early reports of Gladys Frazier. >What has developed, by documents found {all original} was that the Boons >were in Va extensively >more so than in NC. They did infact go back and forth to NC from NC >There are several John/Joseph Couch in VA in the time frame so mentioned. >the "John" we refer to who married both Mary and later Elizabeth did indeed >travel from VA into NC >and back almost on a regular basis. He always had in party a "Joseph" as >noted in other documentation >Who Johns father is is unknown.... at this time... What has surfaced is a >direct document tieing him to a Mary Boon and also a Joseph. >At present three other researchers have seen and examined the documents >Although no "dates for birth or death of Mary are on said. It does prove >her and in a pre war timeframe >What has not surfaced is who her parents are. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Couch, Robert H. " <rcouchauburn@mindspring.com> >To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:37 AM >Subject: Re: [COUCH] John Couch, Mary Boone, Elizabeth Campbell of VA/NC/KY > > >> Joyce, >> >> Tell me more of the established fact of Mary Elizabeth Boon Couch's >> existance. I thought no record existed of her exixstance even after >> Windwalker did extensive research trying to find her. >> Perhaps I missed something. >> >> Robert H. Couch >> ---------- >> >From: JoyceHouseReeve@webtv.net (Joyce H. Reeves) >> >To: COUCH-L@rootsweb.com >> >Subject: [COUCH] John Couch, Mary Boone, Elizabeth Campbell of VA/NC/KY >> >Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2003, 12:24 AM >> > >> >> >Would someone please explain to me WHY our lines have been removed from >> >Bill's Couch Genealogy site? Or WHY none of us were consulted before >> >deciding to remove them. Why was John's and Elizabeth's son Martin's >> >line then returned to the site with no parents in evidence? All of us >> >are well aware there were problems with the line as submitted, but we >> >are working on it. Rome was not built in a day you know. It seems >> >common courtesy should have been extended to those of us who are well >> >aware from whom we descend. That is a given. Now I notice that >> >Martin's line has been pulled once again. Are we being played with like >> >cat and mouse games? Who is responsible for all of this? All of us >> >have a right to know who is trying to mess up our family's lines, and >> >why it is being done. >> > Joyce House-Reeves, >> > gggg granddau of John Couch and Mary Elizabeth Boon Couch (established >> >FACT) >> > >> > >> >============================== >> >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

What type of document's were they? --- "Couch, Robert H. " <rcouchauburn@mindspring.com> wrote: > Sam, > > My heartiest congratulations on finding (with > documented proof) the > existance of Mary Boone as a wife of John Couch. > You were the doubting > Thomas for you knew of no evidence documenting the > exitance of Mary Polly > Boon. However, rather than being content to dissent > you went the extra mile > and did what you had long advocated. Search for the > truth in honest and > dilligent and even expensive research. > > Now, despite your earier, justified doubts you have > found the proof and have > consented that there was indeed a Mary Boone. This > is the sign of a really > great researcher and I commend you highly. > > Now, for the next step back. Who was the father of > your John Couch of > Virginia. Ellen and Dr Richard Couch also have a > Captain John Couch that > was supposedly born before 1748 in England and > migrated to Jamestown, VA. At > this point no one has yet documented the existance > of this Captain John > Couch with observable, original sources. > > What I believe is my Couch line appears in what is > now Lunenburg > County,(formerly Prince George and Brunswick > Counties, Virginia) as early as > 1720. Thomas Couch's residence in Lunenburg along > Couch's Creek is well > documented along with probable relatives Thomas > Couch JR, James Couch, > William Couch, another John and Edward. Land > records, Hotten's list of > 1730, and court records all offer documentation of > the Couches in Lunenburg > County, VA. > > I know your reservations about the DNA but Ron Couch > who is from your John & > Martin Couch line; > Richard Couch from the Captain John Couch line, > Danny Couch from the William > Couch line and my line from the Thomas Couch line > all belong to Couch Group > 5 DNA. They all were at one time known to be in > Virginia. Thus all those > listed above, as well as others in the group, have a > common ancestor who was > probably in Virginia. > > Several of the Group 5 members took the 25 marker > DNA test and all had near > perfect matches. This indicates that those in this > DNA subgroup have a > common ancestor within seven generations. Thus that > common ancestor of so > many of us must have been in Virginia. Now we need > to use your great > research skills, research methodology, and > persistance to find the truth. > I feel we are so close. Together we can solve this > great mystery. > > Congratulations on your great find and the way in > which you have sought the > truth. You did not seek to prove you were right but > you sought the truth > and you are a great example of how we all should do > research. > > Enough bickering and on to the TRUTH! > > Robert H. Couch > ---------- > >From: "Windwalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm> > >To: COUCH-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [COUCH] John Couch, Mary Boone, > Elizabeth Campbell of VA/NC/KY > >Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2003, 10:14 AM > > > > >Documentation {original } has been found this > summer, that in fact she > >exsisted and was indeed > > married to "A John Couch" > >The original document has been looked at by other > >Boon/Couch researchers. > >The said doucmentation does not state birth year > >or death, but indeed does state she is the wife of > "a John Couch". The same > >document also has the name "Joseph" in the same > body of the document > >although no last name for him. > > The fact that so many was placing strong pressure > on the name "Polly" was > >misleading. > >When infact "Polly" was a generic name of the era > {colonial} > >In colonial names Polly= elizabeth most of the > time. > >Even though no records were found per say in Ashe > or others areas. It was > >most likely due to the fact > >Ashe was not a county at the time of her death. > >This report was generated by early reports of > Gladys Frazier. > >What has developed, by documents found {all > original} was that the Boons > >were in Va extensively > >more so than in NC. They did infact go back and > forth to NC from NC > >There are several John/Joseph Couch in VA in the > time frame so mentioned. > >the "John" we refer to who married both Mary and > later Elizabeth did indeed > >travel from VA into NC > >and back almost on a regular basis. He always had > in party a "Joseph" as > >noted in other documentation > >Who Johns father is is unknown.... at this time... > What has surfaced is a > >direct document tieing him to a Mary Boon and also > a Joseph. > >At present three other researchers have seen and > examined the documents > >Although no "dates for birth or death of Mary are > on said. It does prove > >her and in a pre war timeframe > >What has not surfaced is who her parents are. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Couch, Robert H. " > <rcouchauburn@mindspring.com> > >To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:37 AM > >Subject: Re: [COUCH] John Couch, Mary Boone, > Elizabeth Campbell of VA/NC/KY > > > > > >> Joyce, > >> > >> Tell me more of the established fact of Mary > Elizabeth Boon Couch's > >> existance. I thought no record existed of her > exixstance even after > >> Windwalker did extensive research trying to find > her. > >> Perhaps I missed something. > >> > >> Robert H. Couch > >> ---------- > >> >From: JoyceHouseReeve@webtv.net (Joyce H. > Reeves) > >> >To: COUCH-L@rootsweb.com > >> >Subject: [COUCH] John Couch, Mary Boone, > Elizabeth Campbell of VA/NC/KY > >> >Date: Wed, Oct 1, 2003, 12:24 AM > >> > > >> > >> >Would someone please explain to me WHY our lines > have been removed from > >> >Bill's Couch Genealogy site? Or WHY none of us > were consulted before > >> >deciding to remove them. Why was John's and > Elizabeth's son Martin's > >> >line then returned to the site with no parents > in evidence? All of us > >> >are well aware there were problems with the line > as submitted, but we > >> >are working on it. Rome was not built in a day > you know. It seems > >> >common courtesy should have been extended to > those of us who are well > >> >aware from whom we descend. That is a given. > Now I notice that > >> >Martin's line has been pulled once again. Are > we being played with like > >> >cat and mouse games? Who is responsible for all > of this? All of us > >> >have a right to know who is trying to mess up > our family's lines, and > >> >why it is being done. > >> > Joyce House-Reeves, > >> > gggg granddau of John Couch and Mary Elizabeth > Boon Couch (established > >> >FACT) > >> > > >> > > >> >============================== > >> >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, > >go to: > >> > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com