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On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 03:39, Bill Couch wrote: Windwalker wrote: That is sort of what I expected. now keep in mind that Ron took the DNA test and he is from the Martin Couch line. Chart at http://www.couchgenweb.com/couch/martinc.htm#rgc He came backin Group 5 and almost everyone in Group 5 can be traced back to VA. We have not found anyone in the DNA test from any of the Northern States to match up in Group 5 yet. Of cource I think we could still learn a lot's more from the DNA if we could get some of the other lines that have not been tested to find someone from their line's to take the test. We just got Edward Couch #7349 results back to day, and he was a match with the Meshack Couch line. Which is Group 3 Now on the John that is married to Elizabeth James I do not Show him to be in Buckingham Co. Va. but in North Carolina and as you say that is probably not Correct, The reason for North Carolina if he is a son of Old Thomas and was born around 1750 then his birth place would have been Orange Co. North Carolina. I have just started seeing this one listed as being a part of Old Thomas on the net in the last year. That was when I started to question both of the John's that have Claimed to be a son of old Thomas. Bill Couch Bill John very well could be the son of Thomas. But as ive noted your line goes to Buckingham.. Im finding John'/Joseph in western VA. And in the present day Charleston Wva area SO now I assume the whole John Couch of Ky birth date was prior set on thinking he was the son of Thomas?..So thence the 1750 era?? Im finding that John of Ky would more likely be born 1740ish Mind you at preaent all based on historical accounts of settled areas If so it sure would put him in total line for the Indian Wars for the full duration and might explaine that he was only in Indian War service and those records are real sketchy.. I find his know family/friends or cohorts were all Torys including Nick Combs and the Campbells This might explain why John is not listed in rev war service. He may have done service, but not as a regular OR he may have paid a slave to stand in for him, of which was common. So in conclusion your side has no known John Couch west of the montain range of VA in 1755-1766 era? which would be the old randolph Co Is this correct? If the birth date on John of Ky was set on the thinking he was son of Thomas and is not.. Then we may be able to account for him... Ive never thought he was born 1750 thoughts? Sam

Where did you see that there was a Crouch DNA project, I checked FTDNA and did not find one http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_sum.asp?let=C Bill Couch W2305W@aol.com wrote: > > Bill > I have seen where a CRouch DNA is in progess. > My question is if Couch & Crouch DNA match will someone notify you? > Vic > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I doubt that I will get notified but who ever that has the match will get notified if they have sined their release form. Bill Couch W2305W@aol.com wrote: > > Bill > I have seen where a CRouch DNA is in progess. > My question is if Couch & Crouch DNA match will someone notify you? > Vic > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Bill I have seen where a CRouch DNA is in progess. My question is if Couch & Crouch DNA match will someone notify you? Vic

On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 06:19, Bill Couch wrote: Ok I have another Question, How many still thinks that this John Couch who married Elizabeth James is a son of the old Thomas, If so is the Joseph who was there also a son of old Thomas, He did have a son name Joseph also. For some reason I have always had my doubts about the group that went to Franklin Co.Ga and then to Bedford Co. Tenn. as being the son of old Thomas, But I can't prove it either way, and I really don't think anyone else can either. Both John's are about the same age and both Joseph are about the same age. Less hear everyone opinion on this. Bill Couch Well now you asked, and I will unload ! {grin} No dates for John Couch {married to Elizabeth} have ever been documented i.e birth or we would know his father and mother. Im thiking his reported birth date is off and needs to be earlier by 5-10 years. I was getting NOWHERE reading the NC info on him and as I seen it it was beating a deadhorse trying to pin him down in NC or even having him acknowledged. After all he is just sitting there in a genalogy void. Bit with extensive readin of VA/Wva history and accounts. I am more convinced than ever he and Joseph are brothers. I dont know if its the same line of John/Joseph on your side or not. Yours shows Buckingham I believe in Va. and then to TN?? Was this before NC let TN lands go?? I dont know John {married Elizabeth} is the son of Thomas.. Or even have reference to it. I do have accounts of John/Joseph having been in western VA. then NC I have found no direct documents or accounts of Thomas being close to John/Joseph. I have found Austin and also Ance in the same areas in 1740-1765 timeframes. All within a days ride. It is also noted that this "john/joseph that I speak of are noted for being WEST of the mountain range not EAST. Therefore denoting the eastern migration path possible down from PA or Ct having decended in one accound the Ohio Basin and in another counter claim into western VA to the New river to Charleston {present day Wva} thence down the Kananwha to the Ohio. Accounts goes both ways on this. "A" John and Joseph are always close together in VA and also NC till 1806 ish.... A older Joseph Couch never showed up in Kentucky like John whom married elizabeth did. I think this due to the close ties of the Calloway family/Combs and Campbells I believe John had more involvement with them. waht I would be interested in , is knowing if Thomas Couch had any Tory or Loyalist ties. In conclusion I think the dates are on on the John Couch of Ky as to his birth. I think Joseph was and is his brother.. I have no knowledge if their father was Thomas or not. I do have knowledge that a Austin Couch brn abt 1734-1740 was in some way relation. I do think the John couch of Ky was prior linked in some way to the Lewis family and the Calloways and Combs. How that is linked I dont know.. But they sure turn up alot in same areas and I mean Close. Our John may have come from eastern Va on imagration of his family. But I think it more proper his family was from PA or northern colonies. I do think the john of Ky did indeed marry a Mary Boone. I dont believe at present she was Boone blood though, I forsee them being wed in Va and having stayed there till later 1770,s And having possible made trips into Nc. I believe the children of the union were born in Va having later settled in Nc As for the father of John or Joseph.. its a unknown at this time.. Unless I can find a Thomas Couch in Randolph or the Tygerts Valley area. I.e in or around the present day Parsons W Wa

Windwalker wrote: That is sort of what I expected. now keep in mind that Ron took the DNA test and he is from the Martin Couch line. Chart at http://www.couchgenweb.com/couch/martinc.htm#rgc He came backin Group 5 and almost everyone in Group 5 can be traced back to VA. We have not found anyone in the DNA test from any of the Northern States to match up in Group 5 yet. Of cource I think we could still learn a lot's more from the DNA if we could get some of the other lines that have not been tested to find someone from their line's to take the test. We just got Edward Couch #7349 results back to day, and he was a match with the Meshack Couch line. Which is Group 3 Now on the John that is married to Elizabeth James I do not Show him to be in Buckingham Co. Va. but in North Carolina and as you say that is probably not Correct, The reason for North Carolina if he is a son of Old Thomas and was born around 1750 then his birth place would have been Orange Co. North Carolina. I have just started seeing this one listed as being a part of Old Thomas on the net in the last year. That was when I started to question both of the John's that have Claimed to be a son of old Thomas. Bill Couch > > > Well now you asked, and I will unload ! {grin} > No dates for John Couch {married to Elizabeth} > have ever been documented i.e birth or we would know his > father and mother. > Im thiking his reported birth date is off and needs to be earlier > by 5-10 years. > I was getting NOWHERE reading the NC info on him and as I seen it > it was beating a deadhorse trying to pin him down in NC or even having > him acknowledged. > After all he is just sitting there in a genalogy void. > Bit with extensive readin of VA/Wva history and accounts. I am more > convinced than ever he and Joseph are brothers. I dont know if its the > same line of John/Joseph on your side or not. > Yours shows Buckingham I believe in Va. and then to TN?? > Was this before NC let TN lands go?? > I dont know John {married Elizabeth} is the son of Thomas.. Or even have > reference to it. > I do have accounts of John/Joseph having been in western VA. then NC > I have found no direct documents or accounts of Thomas being close to > John/Joseph. > I have found Austin and also Ance in the same areas in 1740-1765 > timeframes. All within a days ride. > It is also noted that this "john/joseph that I speak of are noted for > being WEST of the mountain range not EAST. Therefore denoting the > eastern migration path possible down from PA or Ct having decended > in one accound the Ohio Basin and in another counter claim into western > VA to the New river to Charleston {present day Wva} thence down the > Kananwha to the Ohio. > Accounts goes both ways on this. > "A" John and Joseph are always close together in VA and also NC till > 1806 ish.... A older Joseph Couch never showed up in Kentucky like John > whom married elizabeth did. > I think this due to the close ties of the Calloway family/Combs and > Campbells > I believe John had more involvement with them. > waht I would be interested in , is knowing if Thomas Couch had any Tory > or Loyalist ties. > In conclusion I think the dates are on on the John Couch of Ky as to his > birth. I think Joseph was and is his brother.. I have no knowledge if > their father was Thomas or not. > I do have knowledge that a Austin Couch brn abt 1734-1740 was in some > way relation. I do think the John couch of Ky was prior linked in some > way to the Lewis family and the Calloways and Combs. How that is linked > I dont know.. But they sure turn up alot in same areas and I mean Close. > > Our John may have come from eastern Va on imagration of his family. But > I think it more proper his family was from PA or northern colonies. > I do think the john of Ky did indeed marry a Mary Boone. I dont believe > at present she was Boone blood though, > I forsee them being wed in Va and having stayed there till later 1770,s > And having possible made trips into Nc. > I believe the children of the union were born in Va having later settled > in Nc > > As for the father of John or Joseph.. its a unknown at this time.. > Unless I can find a Thomas Couch in Randolph or the Tygerts Valley area. > I.e in or around the present day Parsons W Wa

On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 06:19, Bill Couch wrote: Ok I have another Question, How many still thinks that this John Couch who married Elizabeth James is a son of the old Thomas, If so is the Joseph who was there also a son of old Thomas, He did have a son name Joseph also. For some reason I have always had my doubts about the group that went to Franklin Co.Ga and then to Bedford Co. Tenn. as being the son of old Thomas, But I can't prove it either way, and I really don't think anyone else can either. Both John's are about the same age and both Joseph are about the same age. Less hear everyone opinion on this. Bill Couch Well now you asked, and I will unload ! {grin} No dates for John Couch {married to Elizabeth} have ever been documented i.e birth or we would know his father and mother. Im thiking his reported birth date is off and needs to be earlier by 5-10 years. I was getting NOWHERE reading the NC info on him and as I seen it it was beating a deadhorse trying to pin him down in NC or even having him acknowledged. After all he is just sitting there in a genalogy void. Bit with extensive readin of VA/Wva history and accounts. I am more convinced than ever he and Joseph are brothers. I dont know if its the same line of John/Joseph on your side or not. Yours shows Buckingham I believe in Va. and then to TN?? Was this before NC let TN lands go?? I dont know John {married Elizabeth} is the son of Thomas.. Or even have reference to it. I do have accounts of John/Joseph having been in western VA. then NC I have found no direct documents or accounts of Thomas being close to John/Joseph. I have found Austin and also Ance in the same areas in 1740-1765 timeframes. All within a days ride. It is also noted that this "john/joseph that I speak of are noted for being WEST of the mountain range not EAST. Therefore denoting the eastern migration path possible down from PA or Ct having decended in one accound the Ohio Basin and in another counter claim into western VA to the New river to Charleston {present day Wva} thence down the Kananwha to the Ohio. Accounts goes both ways on this. "A" John and Joseph are always close together in VA and also NC till 1806 ish.... A older Joseph Couch never showed up in Kentucky like John whom married elizabeth did. I think this due to the close ties of the Calloway family/Combs and Campbells I believe John had more involvement with them. waht I would be interested in , is knowing if Thomas Couch had any Tory or Loyalist ties. In conclusion I think the dates are on on the John Couch of Ky as to his birth. I think Joseph was and is his brother.. I have no knowledge if their father was Thomas or not. I do have knowledge that a Austin Couch brn abt 1734-1740 was in some way relation. I do think the John couch of Ky was prior linked in some way to the Lewis family and the Calloways and Combs. How that is linked I dont know.. But they sure turn up alot in same areas and I mean Close. Our John may have come from eastern Va on imagration of his family. But I think it more proper his family was from PA or northern colonies. I do think the john of Ky did indeed marry a Mary Boone. I dont believe at present she was Boone blood though, I forsee them being wed in Va and having stayed there till later 1770,s And having possible made trips into Nc. I believe the children of the union were born in Va having later settled in Nc As for the father of John or Joseph.. its a unknown at this time.. Unless I can find a Thomas Couch in Randolph or the Tygerts Valley area. I.e in or around the present day Parsons W Wa

Bill if you are talking about north carolina Ashe co was part of Wilkes county in 1790 it also consisted of Alleghany, eastern half of Watauga, northeastern part of Caldwell, tiny part of nortwestern Alexander all of present Wilkes co., and a small portion of western Surry that jutts out by the Va state line. By 1800 Ashe county was Watauga, Ashe and Alleghany. Get William Dollarhide and William Thorndales "Map Guide to the U.S.Federal Censuses 1790-1920. If you have a place on the internet to show all of this send me alink. Would like to see it. Nancy Jarrel Long --- Bill Couch <bcouch@CouchGenweb.com> wrote: > Ok I have another Question, How many still thinks > that this John Couch > who married Elizabeth James is a son of the old > Thomas, If so is the > Joseph who was there also a son of old Thomas, He > did have a son name > Joseph also. > > For some reason I have always had my doubts about > the group that went to > Franklin Co.Ga and then to Bedford Co. Tenn. as > being the son of old > Thomas, But I can't prove it either way, and I > really don't think anyone > else can either. > > Both John's are about the same age and both Joseph > are about the same > age. > > Less hear everyone opinion on this. > > Bill Couch > > > > > > On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 18:41, Bill Couch wrote: > > What dates do you have for them being born, > the Dates I have for John > > and Joseph that was in Ash Co. NC are not old > enough to have owne > > property in 1768? > > > > John born 1750 +/- > > Joseph born 1748 +/- > > well within time frames to be owning property > > indications are John Couch that was married to > Elizabeth James > > was born prior 1750 by a couple of years. > > > > Even the John/Joseph listed in 1782-1806 are well > within the timeline > > John Couch listed in Ashe Co had known property > with elizabeth > > in 1786.. approx age 36 or so. > > Ashe was not a Co in 1768 I dont think... > > It was part of Surry... will have to check note > > > > > > Bill Couch > > > > > > Has anyone found reference to Joseph Couch > in the time > > > frame of 1760 -1806 in NC? > > > This Joe is refered to in historical > documents as being in NC > > > as well as VA and documtments refer to him > as "Montgomery" > > > Joe. > > > He had holdings in MontgomeryCo Va s well as > Surry/Ashe. > > > He is noted as being next to property of > John Couch in VA > > > as well as Ashe Co NC.. In deeds for 1801-02 > he is noted next to > > > James Lewis and John. > > > In a document in present day Tucker Co Wva > he is again listed > > > as being next to John Couch {1769 and also > 1771} > > > Joseph is not found in NC after 1808-09. > > > A historical sign in present day Parsons Wva > {Randolph Co} > > > still stands and notes John Couch being the > first tomahawk > > > rights settler in Parsons area, > > > A check in Wva archives at state level > {historical} and the Univ of > > > Wva lists John as being with "Joseph" in the > area 1768-1772 > > > Later indications are they went futher down > in present day Wva > > > > > > So we have a John/Joseph in Randolph and > Montgomery Co > > > in approx 1766-1778.. And again listed in > Sury/Ashe in 1782-1806 > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > billion online genealogy records, go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > billion online genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

Ok I have another Question, How many still thinks that this John Couch who married Elizabeth James is a son of the old Thomas, If so is the Joseph who was there also a son of old Thomas, He did have a son name Joseph also. For some reason I have always had my doubts about the group that went to Franklin Co.Ga and then to Bedford Co. Tenn. as being the son of old Thomas, But I can't prove it either way, and I really don't think anyone else can either. Both John's are about the same age and both Joseph are about the same age. Less hear everyone opinion on this. Bill Couch > > On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 18:41, Bill Couch wrote: > What dates do you have for them being born, the Dates I have for John > and Joseph that was in Ash Co. NC are not old enough to have owne > property in 1768? > > John born 1750 +/- > Joseph born 1748 +/- > well within time frames to be owning property > indications are John Couch that was married to Elizabeth James > was born prior 1750 by a couple of years. > > Even the John/Joseph listed in 1782-1806 are well within the timeline > John Couch listed in Ashe Co had known property with elizabeth > in 1786.. approx age 36 or so. > Ashe was not a Co in 1768 I dont think... > It was part of Surry... will have to check note > > > Bill Couch > > > > Has anyone found reference to Joseph Couch in the time > > frame of 1760 -1806 in NC? > > This Joe is refered to in historical documents as being in NC > > as well as VA and documtments refer to him as "Montgomery" > > Joe. > > He had holdings in MontgomeryCo Va s well as Surry/Ashe. > > He is noted as being next to property of John Couch in VA > > as well as Ashe Co NC.. In deeds for 1801-02 he is noted next to > > James Lewis and John. > > In a document in present day Tucker Co Wva he is again listed > > as being next to John Couch {1769 and also 1771} > > Joseph is not found in NC after 1808-09. > > A historical sign in present day Parsons Wva {Randolph Co} > > still stands and notes John Couch being the first tomahawk > > rights settler in Parsons area, > > A check in Wva archives at state level {historical} and the Univ of > > Wva lists John as being with "Joseph" in the area 1768-1772 > > Later indications are they went futher down in present day Wva > > > > So we have a John/Joseph in Randolph and Montgomery Co > > in approx 1766-1778.. And again listed in Sury/Ashe in 1782-1806 > > > > Thoughts? > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Bill for putting the chart up I prepared for John Couch and Mary Jones, Clay Co. Kentucky....link below. All interested in Couch in KY, please take a look to see if anything's familiar. I'm particularly interested in Owen, s/o Levi Couch & Ibby Holland. He had land dealings with my gr-grandpa John Wm. Couch in the early 1920's. Owen ended up in Butler Co. Ohio as well as John Wm. who seemed to follow him later, 1925-30. They were both in Ohio by 1930. Hope to find if there is a relationship between the two. http://www.couchgenweb.com/couch/john3.htm Kathleen Couch Latshaw Kentucky Couch Kin http://swapasource.com

On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 17:05, sthnreb@bellsouth.net wrote: please change my email address from sthnreb@bellsouth.net to sthnreb@comcast.net ...........Thanks > Does this pertain to this thread? Geezzzz > From: Bill Couch <bcouch@couchgenweb.com> > Date: 2003/08/18 Mon PM 01:41:10 EDT > To: COUCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COUCH] Montgomery Joseph Couch > > What dates do you have for them being born, the Dates I have for John > and Joseph that was in Ash Co. NC are not old enough to have owne > property in 1768? > > Bill Couch > > > > Has anyone found reference to Joseph Couch in the time > > frame of 1760 -1806 in NC? > > This Joe is refered to in historical documents as being in NC > > as well as VA and documtments refer to him as "Montgomery" > > Joe. > > He had holdings in MontgomeryCo Va s well as Surry/Ashe. > > He is noted as being next to property of John Couch in VA > > as well as Ashe Co NC.. In deeds for 1801-02 he is noted next to > > James Lewis and John. > > In a document in present day Tucker Co Wva he is again listed > > as being next to John Couch {1769 and also 1771} > > Joseph is not found in NC after 1808-09. > > A historical sign in present day Parsons Wva {Randolph Co} > > still stands and notes John Couch being the first tomahawk > > rights settler in Parsons area, > > A check in Wva archives at state level {historical} and the Univ of > > Wva lists John as being with "Joseph" in the area 1768-1772 > > Later indications are they went futher down in present day Wva > > > > So we have a John/Joseph in Randolph and Montgomery Co > > in approx 1766-1778.. And again listed in Sury/Ashe in 1782-1806 > > > > Thoughts? > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 18:41, Bill Couch wrote: What dates do you have for them being born, the Dates I have for John and Joseph that was in Ash Co. NC are not old enough to have owne property in 1768? John born 1750 +/- Joseph born 1748 +/- well within time frames to be owning property indications are John Couch that was married to Elizabeth James was born prior 1750 by a couple of years. Even the John/Joseph listed in 1782-1806 are well within the timeline John Couch listed in Ashe Co had known property with elizabeth in 1786.. approx age 36 or so. Ashe was not a Co in 1768 I dont think... It was part of Surry... will have to check note Bill Couch > > Has anyone found reference to Joseph Couch in the time > frame of 1760 -1806 in NC? > This Joe is refered to in historical documents as being in NC > as well as VA and documtments refer to him as "Montgomery" > Joe. > He had holdings in MontgomeryCo Va s well as Surry/Ashe. > He is noted as being next to property of John Couch in VA > as well as Ashe Co NC.. In deeds for 1801-02 he is noted next to > James Lewis and John. > In a document in present day Tucker Co Wva he is again listed > as being next to John Couch {1769 and also 1771} > Joseph is not found in NC after 1808-09. > A historical sign in present day Parsons Wva {Randolph Co} > still stands and notes John Couch being the first tomahawk > rights settler in Parsons area, > A check in Wva archives at state level {historical} and the Univ of > Wva lists John as being with "Joseph" in the area 1768-1772 > Later indications are they went futher down in present day Wva > > So we have a John/Joseph in Randolph and Montgomery Co > in approx 1766-1778.. And again listed in Sury/Ashe in 1782-1806 > > Thoughts? > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The census for Ashe County, NC for 1800 shows both Joseph and John Couch living next to each other (from the index to 1800 NC census) Also the 1810 census shows a J and a J but no further name. Joseph appears in Knox County, Tn in 1815 when Jane Couch married Rowland Blankenship. Jonathan Couch signed the marriage bond. I am of the opinion that this is the Joseph that was in Ashe County but it is an opinion, not proven. It Jane and her husband moved to Madison County, Al about 1817/18 and stayed until about 1827/28 when they moved to White County, Tn. Timothy Couch, also seems to be a son of Joseph and we believe a brother to Jane, thus the reason for the Blankenship move there. Later Timothy moved to Warren County,Tn where he died. I can give more dates and abit more informtion if you think this is what you are looking for. Just let me know. Nolene

Has anyone found reference to Joseph Couch in the time frame of 1760 -1806 in NC? This Joe is refered to in historical documents as being in NC as well as VA and documtments refer to him as "Montgomery" Joe. He had holdings in MontgomeryCo Va s well as Surry/Ashe. He is noted as being next to property of John Couch in VA as well as Ashe Co NC.. In deeds for 1801-02 he is noted next to James Lewis and John. In a document in present day Tucker Co Wva he is again listed as being next to John Couch {1769 and also 1771} Joseph is not found in NC after 1808-09. A historical sign in present day Parsons Wva {Randolph Co} still stands and notes John Couch being the first tomahawk rights settler in Parsons area, A check in Wva archives at state level {historical} and the Univ of Wva lists John as being with "Joseph" in the area 1768-1772 Later indications are they went futher down in present day Wva So we have a John/Joseph in Randolph and Montgomery Co in approx 1766-1778.. And again listed in Sury/Ashe in 1782-1806 Thoughts?

please change my email address from sthnreb@bellsouth.net to sthnreb@comcast.net ...........Thanks > > From: Bill Couch <bcouch@couchgenweb.com> > Date: 2003/08/18 Mon PM 01:41:10 EDT > To: COUCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [COUCH] Montgomery Joseph Couch > > What dates do you have for them being born, the Dates I have for John > and Joseph that was in Ash Co. NC are not old enough to have owne > property in 1768? > > Bill Couch > > > > Has anyone found reference to Joseph Couch in the time > > frame of 1760 -1806 in NC? > > This Joe is refered to in historical documents as being in NC > > as well as VA and documtments refer to him as "Montgomery" > > Joe. > > He had holdings in MontgomeryCo Va s well as Surry/Ashe. > > He is noted as being next to property of John Couch in VA > > as well as Ashe Co NC.. In deeds for 1801-02 he is noted next to > > James Lewis and John. > > In a document in present day Tucker Co Wva he is again listed > > as being next to John Couch {1769 and also 1771} > > Joseph is not found in NC after 1808-09. > > A historical sign in present day Parsons Wva {Randolph Co} > > still stands and notes John Couch being the first tomahawk > > rights settler in Parsons area, > > A check in Wva archives at state level {historical} and the Univ of > > Wva lists John as being with "Joseph" in the area 1768-1772 > > Later indications are they went futher down in present day Wva > > > > So we have a John/Joseph in Randolph and Montgomery Co > > in approx 1766-1778.. And again listed in Sury/Ashe in 1782-1806 > > > > Thoughts? > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Which chart do I have you listed on? Bill Couch > > please change my email address from sthnreb@bellsouth.net to sthnreb@comcast.net ...........Thanks > > > > From: Bill Couch <bcouch@couchgenweb.com> > > Date: 2003/08/18 Mon PM 01:41:10 EDT > > To: COUCH-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [COUCH] Montgomery Joseph Couch > > > > What dates do you have for them being born, the Dates I have for John > > and Joseph that was in Ash Co. NC are not old enough to have owne > > property in 1768? > > > > Bill Couch > > > > > > Has anyone found reference to Joseph Couch in the time > > > frame of 1760 -1806 in NC? > > > This Joe is refered to in historical documents as being in NC > > > as well as VA and documtments refer to him as "Montgomery" > > > Joe. > > > He had holdings in MontgomeryCo Va s well as Surry/Ashe. > > > He is noted as being next to property of John Couch in VA > > > as well as Ashe Co NC.. In deeds for 1801-02 he is noted next to > > > James Lewis and John. > > > In a document in present day Tucker Co Wva he is again listed > > > as being next to John Couch {1769 and also 1771} > > > Joseph is not found in NC after 1808-09. > > > A historical sign in present day Parsons Wva {Randolph Co} > > > still stands and notes John Couch being the first tomahawk > > > rights settler in Parsons area, > > > A check in Wva archives at state level {historical} and the Univ of > > > Wva lists John as being with "Joseph" in the area 1768-1772 > > > Later indications are they went futher down in present day Wva > > > > > > So we have a John/Joseph in Randolph and Montgomery Co > > > in approx 1766-1778.. And again listed in Sury/Ashe in 1782-1806 > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

What dates do you have for them being born, the Dates I have for John and Joseph that was in Ash Co. NC are not old enough to have owne property in 1768? Bill Couch > > Has anyone found reference to Joseph Couch in the time > frame of 1760 -1806 in NC? > This Joe is refered to in historical documents as being in NC > as well as VA and documtments refer to him as "Montgomery" > Joe. > He had holdings in MontgomeryCo Va s well as Surry/Ashe. > He is noted as being next to property of John Couch in VA > as well as Ashe Co NC.. In deeds for 1801-02 he is noted next to > James Lewis and John. > In a document in present day Tucker Co Wva he is again listed > as being next to John Couch {1769 and also 1771} > Joseph is not found in NC after 1808-09. > A historical sign in present day Parsons Wva {Randolph Co} > still stands and notes John Couch being the first tomahawk > rights settler in Parsons area, > A check in Wva archives at state level {historical} and the Univ of > Wva lists John as being with "Joseph" in the area 1768-1772 > Later indications are they went futher down in present day Wva > > So we have a John/Joseph in Randolph and Montgomery Co > in approx 1766-1778.. And again listed in Sury/Ashe in 1782-1806 > > Thoughts? > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Years ago it was reported via Gladys Frazier, that she had documentation on Mary Boon Couch. It was later published in a vanity press type of genealogy book. That book was excerpted in part to the Kentucky Explorer Magazine. It was also reported on LDS and roots web sites via JP Doward which listed the info source as Gladys Frazier. Recent findings have turned up there was NO documentation on the issue. That she merely reported "what she had heard". It was picked up by several and added to their files, which in turn listed her having full documentation. This is totaly false.. No documentation exisists. It was merely a verbal account which amplified in maginitude and was reported as "source" Please take this into account on your searches and files. Sam

Michael Couctch, If you are on this list, I tried to reply to your message and they bounce. This is the address you sent it from mcoutch@misschem.com Bill Couch