----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce H. Reeves" <JoyceHouseReeve@webtv.net> Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch Family in and around Leslie County,Kentucky > Hey Robert, > Just a friendly reminder that "most KY Couches" are not confused > about who our ancestor was. "Most of us" are well aware that John, Sr > was the father of Martin, John, Mary/Polly, Nancy Ann and Sarah. James > and Austin I'm not too sure about. They could just as easily have > belonged to Joseph Couch of 1800 Ashe Co NC, aka "Montgomery" Joe, who > we think, but cannot prove 100% was brother of John. All available > evidence points to their having been brothers. > Just because John is no longer listed on the Couch website, as father > of Martin, does not mean we don't know who he was. I never understood > why he was removed in the first place. > Joyce ============================================================ Addition: Joyce has made a important point. The "site" no longer lists Martin as being the son of John Sr of Kentucky. Nor is a close resemblance of the line being factually being depicted {Kentucky lineage}. This is due impart to "internet researchers" changing lines to fit their needs, without benefit of documentation and some solely relying on "DNA" results. Some of the most important research was done by JP Doward, although NOT without errors, But the basic Kentucky Lineage is intact. Others have followed the paper trail and found some wrong, but alot whole and intact. I agree with Joyce, that John and Joseph were indeed brothers or Father/Son as evidenced by the early land deeds in VA and NC. We have seen nothing documenting that John Couch of KY had been in or around SC , its our contention, that is a different Couch lineage.And research more or less so dictates that. DNA testing indeed has placed some in the Kentucky lineage direct, it also has dispelled and exempted some whom think they are of Kentucky lineage and have posted their lineage as correct. {See test results for group 5 and ones whom have failed linkage} It is highly possible a direct link is at hand for a Thomas Couch lineage, but I feel its more of intermarriage between clans, than direct. NOTE there is two distinct lineage's in Kentucky of the Couch Line.Those whom have direct people in the line and has been documented and those who don't, yet are placing their Couch ancestors in the line where they think "they fit". There are also ones mixing up the two lines cause they cant find where they fit and see a name and think its the one they are looking for. Then they go back to corrupt the original info/documentation or validate it incorrect. Be advised the Couchgenweb is mostly for southern lines of the Couch line. And Bill has limited info on the Kentucky Line except what is gleaned from others as correct {I.E no documented evidence is being given for anyone to modify a line beyond a internet file. Be highly careful in researching the Kentucky line and fully document every earliest member you can. Use the internet files ONLY as a clue and not as a source. Austin Couch: Son of Martin Couch:: There is also a Austin Couch Sr that has not been directly linked to the Kentucky Couch line. Although being researched he was in Kentucky in 1770 and being in the Indian Wars. He at one point settled at Limestone Kentucky {Maysville} and also Sandy River Kentucky.Some researchers have reported that he was at the battle of Pt Pleasant with a party of Longhunters. later documents indicate he settled in the Kanawha Valley for a time {Same timeframe as the Boones} and later crossed into NC via what's now Montgomery Co. In conclusion.... research your line on Kentucky carefully!!!!!

Martin is still listed as the son of John Couch on the Couch website. http://www.couchgenweb.com/couch/johnc.htm Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Joyce H. Reeves <JoyceHouseReeve@webtv.net> To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [COUCH] Martin Couch Family in and around Leslie County,Kentucky > Hey Robert, > Just a friendly reminder that "most KY Couches" are not confused > about who our ancestor was. "Most of us" are well aware that John, Sr > was the father of Martin, John, Mary/Polly, Nancy Ann and Sarah. James > and Austin I'm not too sure about. They could just as easily have > belonged to Joseph Couch of 1800 Ashe Co NC, aka "Montgomery" Joe, who > we think, but cannot prove 100% was brother of John. All available > evidence points to their having been brothers. > Just because John is no longer listed on the Couch website, as father > of Martin, does not mean we don't know who he was. I never understood > why he was removed in the first place. > Joyce > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hey Robert, Just a friendly reminder that "most KY Couches" are not confused about who our ancestor was. "Most of us" are well aware that John, Sr was the father of Martin, John, Mary/Polly, Nancy Ann and Sarah. James and Austin I'm not too sure about. They could just as easily have belonged to Joseph Couch of 1800 Ashe Co NC, aka "Montgomery" Joe, who we think, but cannot prove 100% was brother of John. All available evidence points to their having been brothers. Just because John is no longer listed on the Couch website, as father of Martin, does not mean we don't know who he was. I never understood why he was removed in the first place. Joyce

Hi John, Glad to see you made it to the list and contact with Bill too. He can give you the scoop on the DNA project and YES....there is much need for more participants, particularly those with KY roots. It's been a real help for many and lots of surprises along the way to keep things interesting. You can also post your line on the list. Many people search the archives and you never know when a connection might be made. Thanks for the death certificates and yes, I'm always interested in any more you want to send. I'm a bit behind lately from back injury but hope to get caught up soon. Welcome and good hunting! Kathy Kentucky Couch Kin http://swapasource.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Couch" <jcouch123@cinci.rr.com> To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: [COUCH] Martin Couch Family in and around Leslie County, Kentucky > Hello everyone. > > My name is John Couch. I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. I just subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to introduce myself. I've talked with Bill and Kathy some through emails. I am researching the Couch family in and around Leslie County, Kentucky. I have mostly been concentrating on the John Couch(s/o Eli) married to Nancy Sizemore family, but I do have information from Martin on down. > > If Bill is reading this I tried to email you but your isp is blocking my email. Kathy informed me we need more people to take the DNA test. I was curious as to how I go about doing that. Also, I have the line from John(s/o Eli) on down mostly complete with names of children and dates and was wondering how to send you that file. > > There is a library not far from me(~half an hour) that has the Kentucky Death Certificates on microfilm. I've sent some death certificates to Kathy to post on her site, and have many more death certificates and census records to send to her still if you're interested in those as well. > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello everyone. My name is John Couch. I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. I just subscribed to the mailing list and wanted to introduce myself. I've talked with Bill and Kathy some through emails. I am researching the Couch family in and around Leslie County, Kentucky. I have mostly been concentrating on the John Couch(s/o Eli) married to Nancy Sizemore family, but I do have information from Martin on down. If Bill is reading this I tried to email you but your isp is blocking my email. Kathy informed me we need more people to take the DNA test. I was curious as to how I go about doing that. Also, I have the line from John(s/o Eli) on down mostly complete with names of children and dates and was wondering how to send you that file. There is a library not far from me(~half an hour) that has the Kentucky Death Certificates on microfilm. I've sent some death certificates to Kathy to post on her site, and have many more death certificates and census records to send to her still if you're interested in those as well.

Thanks, I was afraid if that, They have been working on it and installing a new mail program, and My mail really took a drop. How about everyone try to send me a message and see how many are bouncing. Robert H. Couch I have not heard from you in a while, Are you blocked. Bill Couch > If Bill is reading this I tried to email you but your isp is blocking my email. Kathy informed me we need more people to take the DNA test. I was curious as to how I go about doing that. Also, I have the line from John(s/o Eli) on down mostly complete with names of children and dates and was wondering how to send you that file.

Is anyone researching this John Couch. He was in Greene Co. GA on a tax digest in 1824. In the 1827 Georgia Lottery he had 2 draws which could mean he was a Revolutionary War soldier. If so please advise me. Larry Parr

If you have sent me mail and did not get a answer please post it here. My Provider has installed a new program on the server to prevent spam. It is also kicking back some good mail. I am a unhappy campter with them tonight but may not be much I can do about it. Bill Couch

>From one of the mailing lists, you can do a search for any surname. "On 29 May 2004 there will be a WWII Memorial Dedication. If you have a relative or friend you would like to register the internet address is: www.wwiimemorial.com or you can call: 1-800-639-4992 (No Charge to Register either way you do so). Since this was just a snipet in the AJC I thought it would be good to pass on since I do not know if any other papers have run articles. Helena-Suzanne" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

I see another company has also increased their test to a 43 marker test. http://www.dnaheritage.com/markers.asp This address explain some of the marker and the expected results. Hopeful Family Tree will also extend to a 43 marker soon. I have tried to to see if it has Surname project like FTDNA does but if so there is no Couch's listed. But there is some good reading at this site. I took the 37 marker test that FTDNA has and it should be back this week. They had it and a couple more scheduled for the 21 and then extended for 10 days. Guess we will just see what happend in the next day or two. But I will compair My results with what They are listing on this address.

You can do a search at imdb.com for "Couch" and see everyone who is named Couch who has worked in the Entertainment industry. They are William J. Couch, Sr. and Jr. But I don't know who they belong to. Becky Griswold --- Dianne <couchinthesouth@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I finally saw the credits for > STAR TRECK II THE WRATH OF KAHN today, > and there were two Couch's on the stunt crew: > Bill Couch Sr & Bill Couch Jr. > > Anyone know who these people are? > Just would be interesting... > > dianne __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

I finally saw the credits for STAR TRECK II THE WRATH OF KAHN today, and there were two Couch's on the stunt crew: Bill Couch Sr & Bill Couch Jr. Anyone know who these people are? Just would be interesting... dianne __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

in the 1815 tax digest of Elbert Co John Couch Matthew Couch James Couch They were paying a pole tax. This is probably the John on the 1820 Elbert Co. Census Elizabeth Couch married Henry Dutton 22Aug 1819 Elijah W. Couch married Nancy Allen 08 June 1830 Larry Parr

Lauderdale County, AL Newspaper - THE FLORENCE HERALD Thursday, March 17, 1892: MARRIAGES YOUNG - COUCH Sunday afternoon, at the residence of Mr. BEN DARBY, at Bircham's Creek, in this county, Mr. Wm. B. YOUNG and Miss AMANDA E. COUCH were united in marriage. The happy couple are both well known and greatly admired in Florence and the county. The bride is the daughter of Mr. JOHN COUCH, who lives near Wesley's Chapel, and is exceedingly popular among a large number of friends. The groom has long been one of the leading business men of the county. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Does anyone know who this Virgil is? His picture is on the cover and above his name is written Civil Defenseman The picture looks a little like Harvey Couch the millionaire.

someone said a John Couch went from the south to Kansas when they were trying to decide wether Kansas would be a slave or free state. And much of his family died there or going or coming. I don't have dates just this little bit of a tale. Can anyone help?

Darius Couch married Ann Bessant Apr.23, 1818 in Camden Co Ga Drury Couch married Nancy Coating Jan 6, 1829 in Butts Co. Ga.

From: Garth1ur@aol.com To: Bcouch@couchgenweb.com Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 3:37 PM Subject: Couch history Dear Mr. Couch: I came across an article on Newburgh, NY town history that showed that on 11/24/1824 the sloop "Neptune" coming up the Hudson from New York sank near Pallapel's Island. There were 55 on board, 16 were saved. It said a "Mrs Couch" and two children drowned. I have not been able to determine who Mrs Couch was. The local history dept of Newburgh could not locate any information on her. Do you have any record of a Mrs Couch and two children who all died 11/24/1824 off of Newburgh? Thanks. Garth Coombs

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~southwestcentralga/ The Coweta pages are part of my son, Andrew's, Boy Scout Eagle Project. Including Churches, Cemeteries, courthouses, antebellum and older homes, barns, outhouses and just whatever he wanted to take pics of... When we get the rest of the pics up, there will be tombstone pictures from 40 cemeteries from surrounding counties. And of coarse Couch stones will be included! Working on the rest of the 220 cemeteries myself. So if you'd been wondering where I'd been, I've been in the cemetery taking thousands of pictures..... We do accept donations of pictures, etc... Please check it out and send in your pictures. dianne & andrew __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Very nice job Brad and thanks for sharing with everyone! Perhaps some others here have homepages they could post? Just when we think we've seen them all some new ones surface. How about it gang! Kathy Kentucky Couch Kin http://swapasource.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Couch" <bcouch@columbus.rr.com> To: <COUCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:12 AM Subject: [COUCH] Meshack Couch > > Hi all, > > Just wanted to pass this along ... > http://home.columbus.rr.com/meshackcouch > > This is a homepage dedicated to Meshack Couch Sr. and his descendants. > He is my "brick wall". Have been getting new light because of Bill > Couch's efforts with the Couch DNA Project > (http://www.couchgenweb.com/couch/DNAtest.htm#group3) Thanks to Bill for > coordinating this effort! > > There is a lot of other unrelated Couch links listed as I have tried to > save good resource links to share with others in there genealogical > quest. > > Feel free to check it out ... Suggestions and comments are appreciated. > > Have a great day! > > Brad Couch