I have found discrepancies as well. We were going on parents' names from a death certificate. Finally found a copy of a marriage application and the last name of the mother was not the same. I am positive that I have the correct records for both. I wondered if when the death certificate was filled out they told the name they "thought" was correct at the time, even if inaccurate. I began to search both names to see if I could get anywhere. Haven't yet, but will keep trying. Brian Adams [email protected] On 07/10/13, [email protected] wrote: You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, or if you wish to search or browse the archives, or if you wish to unsubscribe from digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see [1]http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.htmlforlinks and instructions. See [2]http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated web site. Today's Topics: 1. Marriage Records (Pat H) 2. Re: Marriage Records (Margaret Donnelly) 3. Re: Marriage Records ([3][email protected]) 4. Marriage Records (Pat H) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 17:42:08 +1000 From: Pat H <[4][email protected]> Subject: [CoTyIre] Marriage Records To: [5][email protected] Message-ID: <CAO7-Kqh_B7aZ9=-QZyhNqdM+wyvB-R[6][email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have received a marriage certificate for a marriage in 1883 which I hoped would be for my great,great uncle. However, the name of the father of the groom is not who I expected, in fact he has the same name as the groom. I first assumed that I had the wrong person but the name of a witness and the location of the wedding suggest this could be my relative. There is one mistake in the first name of a witness which has been crossed out and a new name written. There are also look to be a few ink blots which makes me wonder if whoever filled in the register was a bit careless. I was wondering if anyone else has come across errors on marriage certificates. I am undecided as to whether I have the right certificate or not but am reluctant to dismiss it due to one name being incorrect. Cheers Pat ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 07:14:51 -0400 From: "Margaret Donnelly" <[7][email protected]> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Marriage Records To: "'Pat H'" <[8][email protected]>, <[9][email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pat, I can't speak specifically for Irish marriage certificates, but I can speak generally for BMD records. I have found MANY errors. Holland instead Holleran for a maiden name on a baptismal record is a simple one - the priest probably mis-heard or went from memory. On my grand aunt's death certificate, the given name of her father is correct, but the surname is completely wrong. Happy searching! Margaret -----Original Message----- From: cot[10][email protected] [[11]mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat H Sent: Tuesday, 09 July, 2013 3:42 AM To: [12][email protected] Subject: [CoTyIre] Marriage Records I have received a marriage certificate for a marriage in 1883 which I hoped would be for my great,great uncle. However, the name of the father of the groom is not who I expected, in fact he has the same name as the groom. I first assumed that I had the wrong person but the name of a witness and the location of the wedding suggest this could be my relative. There is one mistake in the first name of a witness which has been crossed out and a new name written. There are also look to be a few ink blots which makes me wonder if whoever filled in the register was a bit careless. I was wondering if anyone else has come across errors on marriage certificates. I am undecided as to whether I have the right certificate or not but am reluctant to dismiss it due to one name being incorrect. Cheers Pat ------------- Our community web-site: [13]http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COT[14][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:29:52 +0100 From: <[15][email protected]> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Marriage Records To: "'Pat H'" <[16][email protected]>, <[17][email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pat, Unfortunately you did not give the man's name or I could have checked to see if there was also a church record for him at RootsIreland. Church records of marriage, especially Protestant ones, were very often recorded on exactly the same format books as Civil Records. I have no idea why this should be so but it is. Obviously they had no photocopiers then, so the two records were completed at a different time, in a different place and by a different person, so they often contain discrepancies. These discrepancies may be accounted for by people giving different info or people recording that info incorrectly on one occasion. Check RootsIreland to see it there is also a church record. And incidentally, if you use RootsIreland judiciously, you should be able to check the name of the fathers of the bride and the groom before you buy the cert, this ensuring you have the right one before shelling out your three or four euros. Boyd Gray [18]http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm [19]http://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ [20]http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy -----Original Message----- From: cot[21][email protected] [[22]mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat H Sent: 09 July 2013 08:42 To: [23][email protected] Subject: [CoTyIre] Marriage Records I have received a marriage certificate for a marriage in 1883 which I hoped would be for my great,great uncle. However, the name of the father of the groom is not who I expected, in fact he has the same name as the groom. I first assumed that I had the wrong person but the name of a witness and the location of the wedding suggest this could be my relative. There is one mistake in the first name of a witness which has been crossed out and a new name written. There are also look to be a few ink blots which makes me wonder if whoever filled in the register was a bit careless. I was wondering if anyone else has come across errors on marriage certificates. I am undecided as to whether I have the right certificate or not but am reluctant to dismiss it due to one name being incorrect. Cheers Pat ------------- Our community web-site: [24]http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COT[25][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:36:43 +1000 From: Pat H <[26][email protected]> Subject: [CoTyIre] Marriage Records To: [27][email protected] Message-ID: <CAO7-Kqjnr9RaKDZZoQ3=0RFbkrC2vv[28][email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thankyou Margaret and Boyd for your help. I am looking for Joseph McMaster (born around 1859), son of James McMaster. If he married in Tyrone, the 1883 marriage looks to be the most likely possibility. I can't find a church record for this marriage so was hoping the civil record would confirm if I had the right person or not. Pat ------------------------------ To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COT[29][email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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