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    1. [CoTyIre] Traveling to Ireland and Need Info
    2. Anne Hetu
    3. I will be traveling to Ireland next year, and I would love to find the area where my grandparents lived in County Tyrone. The problem is, I have not been able to find a parish by the same name as is written on the family tombstones. My 2nd great grandfather, Bernard (or Barnet) Mc Menamon (and his son John as well) are buried in the Old Norton Cemetery in Norton, New Brunswick, Canada. He was born in 1766 and emigrated to Canada around 1817. Bernard died on July 28, 1853 and the inscription on his headstone reads: "Native of the parish of Caurmon, County Tyrone, Ireland." The inscription on his son John's grave who died in 1874 and is buried right next to him reads exactly the same.....Caurmon. The stones are well-preserved and the writing is clear. I have searched and searched, and cannot find any such parish as Caurmon. Does anyone have any light they can shed on this mystery?

    07/20/2013 03:21:28
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Traveling to Ireland and Need Info
    2. Margaret Donnelly
    3. Your family members may not have been literate, speaking with a heavy north of Ireland accent. The stone cutter may not have been a native speaker of English. And, spelling was not standardized. In other words, the name of the parish would have morphed. Checking "Ireland Marriages" on familysearch.org, many Mc Menamon marriages took place in Termonamongan parish. Checking the list of townlands in Termonamongan, there are possibilities, with "Common" being the most likely in my opinion. Have a wonderful trip! Margaret -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Hetu Sent: Sunday, 21 July, 2013 12:21 AM To: County Tyrone Message Board Subject: [CoTyIre] Traveling to Ireland and Need Info I will be traveling to Ireland next year, and I would love to find the area where my grandparents lived in County Tyrone. The problem is, I have not been able to find a parish by the same name as is written on the family tombstones. My 2nd great grandfather, Bernard (or Barnet) Mc Menamon (and his son John as well) are buried in the Old Norton Cemetery in Norton, New Brunswick, Canada. He was born in 1766 and emigrated to Canada around 1817. Bernard died on July 28, 1853 and the inscription on his headstone reads: "Native of the parish of Caurmon, County Tyrone, Ireland." The inscription on his son John's grave who died in 1874 and is buried right next to him reads exactly the same.....Caurmon. The stones are well-preserved and the writing is clear. I have searched and searched, and cannot find any such parish as Caurmon. Does anyone have any light they can shed on this mystery? ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/20/2013 10:49:46
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Traveling to Ireland and Need Info
    2. Everyone else is having a go so I will as well. Agree with comments about pronunciation etc but most relate to a townland where this inscription clearly says parish. That of course could be an error as people in Canada probably never heard of a townland and so would suspect that when you said where you were from it was a parish. Nevertheless, if is WAS a parish and it WAS in Co Tyrone, the choices are fairly limited. This is them: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/maps/parish.html How's about Carnteel and the children, when they ordered the stone, couldn't remember the name except it started with "Car". No? I didn't really think so either. So, how to check for the name McMenamon in one of our land surveys: either the TAB of the 1820s/30s or the GV of the c1850s? If you try the official site of the GV it is totally spelling sensitive so you would need to try half a dozen different variations of McMenamin - maybe more if you throw in McMenamy and its variations. Ditto the official TAB website. BUT, as always, the good folk at Familysearch (I am not a Mormon, honest) have a spelling free search engine for the TAB. Entering Bernard McMenamon and nothing else at all (no parish, no county) gives these four: Mcmenamon Ireland, Tithe Applotment Books, 1814-1855 tax assessment: 1825 Urney, Pullyarnon, Tyrone, Donegal, Ireland Mcmenamin Ireland, Tithe Applotment Books, 1814-1855 tax assessment: 1833 Donaghmore, Ballynacor, Cork, Ireland Mcmenamen Ireland, Tithe Applotment Books, 1814-1855 tax assessment: 1830 Stranorlar, Little Dooish, Donegal, Ireland Mcmenamen Ireland, Tithe Applotment Books, 1814-1855 tax assessment: 1830 Stranorlar, Big Dooish, Donegal, Ireland Urney? Caurmon? Stretching it a bit. Take out Bernard and enter Tyrone and you get these: Edward Mcmenamon Ireland, Tithe Applotment Books, 1814-1855 tax assessment: 1825 Urney, Cavin, Tyrone, Donegal, Ireland Francis Mcmenamon Ireland, Tithe Applotment Books, 1814-1855 tax assessment: 1825 Urney, Pullyarnon, Tyrone, Donegal, Ireland Mcmenamon Ireland, Tithe Applotment Books, 1814-1855 tax assessment: 1825 Urney, Pullyarnon, Tyrone, Donegal, Ireland Shawn Mcmenamon Ireland, Tithe Applotment Books, 1814-1855 tax assessment: 1825 Urney, Pullyarnon, Tyrone, Donegal, Ireland Again, all in Urney Parish. Interesting. (Btw, Shawn is the same as John.) Play with it yourself: https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1804886 Regards, Boyd Gray http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm http://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anne Hetu Sent: 21 July 2013 05:21 To: County Tyrone Message Board Subject: [CoTyIre] Traveling to Ireland and Need Info I will be traveling to Ireland next year, and I would love to find the area where my grandparents lived in County Tyrone. The problem is, I have not been able to find a parish by the same name as is written on the family tombstones. My 2nd great grandfather, Bernard (or Barnet) Mc Menamon (and his son John as well) are buried in the Old Norton Cemetery in Norton, New Brunswick, Canada. He was born in 1766 and emigrated to Canada around 1817. Bernard died on July 28, 1853 and the inscription on his headstone reads: "Native of the parish of Caurmon, County Tyrone, Ireland." The inscription on his son John's grave who died in 1874 and is buried right next to him reads exactly the same.....Caurmon. The stones are well-preserved and the writing is clear. I have searched and searched, and cannot find any such parish as Caurmon. Does anyone have any light they can shed on this mystery? ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/21/2013 07:37:48