Marg. What I was attempting to do in my earlier reply, was to look at the oz information, in order to find more detail in oz about their Irish place of origin. That is why I went to the online info at State Records. In most cases, we will have MORE info here in Oz, in order to find their true place of origin, than will readily be available in Ireland. As you have a LOT of members of the family arriving in oz; then it is VERY likely that very detailed searching in all of the oz records of each such family member who arrived here -- including shipping arrival information, and marriages and deaths here, as well as births here of other children --- will provide really good info for you. Once you have that info, then it is much easier and quicker to zero in on the Irish records in Tyrone or elsewhere. You had initially written: "… Alexander had the name of the place he was born as something that reads like Delgr Tyrone, and I wonder what that was. … " I had especially been hoping that I might have been able to find that record online, so that I could look at it myself, to try to interpret that Delgr place-name for myself. But I couldn't find it there. If you are able to make a scan of that entry and send it to my private e-mail address above (because rootsweb will not permit any attachments), then I could look at it and see if I might help with interpreting it. cheers. ray in oz On 24/12/2013, at 7:11 AM, "marg o'leary" <[email protected]> wrote: Thank you very much for that. I do have the Australian information already, there is some discrepancy between records at different times giving birth places, but Tyrone is the most consistent for the family overall. Certainly William worked as a blacksmith later as did his brother John. What I am needing is information about the Tyrone end please. regards Marg OLeary …