The Family finder test at Family Tree DNA is a goody as it gives you cousin matchesgoing back and out to many generations if they are in the data base. So you get paternal aand maternal matches. The raw data files can also be uploaded to Gedmatch so another database for comparisons..with people from many different companies including Family Tree And Ancestry. Family tree are more reliable as Ancestor stopped testing for Y years back and so we all transfered to Ftdna and upgraded there from a basic 12 or 25 marker Y test to a 67 Y. The Family finder test is basically an ethnicity test..so breaks up your genetic make up in %s and gives you a list of cousin names in the data base which is ever growing. Our Fleming surname and Flemish Scotlands People project is at Ftdna...and I am finding new cousins every day as both my brother and I have y tested, my tested and had the Family finder test at Family tree DNA. Also prices are great, and do send kits to Australia. We had over 200 testers at ancestry and they shut the Y project down. Most unreliable so decided to go with FTDNA. Yes the auto upload to YSearch another data base and mitochondrial comparisons is a bonus. There is a recent artical out about Ancestry being up for sale..so not good as do not know what they are up to > Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:40:23 +0000 > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CoTyIre] mtDNA > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Every man has his mother's mtDNA; it just cannot be passed on. mtDNA is useful for determining geographical connections but not surname connections. Shirley > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: David Bartley via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > To: Tom Walden <twalden27@gmail.com> > Cc: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 113 > Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:34:15 -0400 > > I think you’re a little off here, Tom, about the possibility of an individual carrying his or her father’s mtDNA. Actually, each individual carries only his or her mother’s mtDNA. Therefore, tracing back through mtDNA is exactly analogous to tracing via the Y chromosome. One gives the paternal line, whereas the other, the maternal. Either line is very limited in describing the genetic makeup of an individual. For example, going back 6 generations, often there are 32 pairs of great^4grandparents as ancestors, each of which can have genetic influence on the individual in question (not just your single pair of great^4grandparents named Walden). > > David > > > > On May 29, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Tom Walden via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Ancestry.com has a lot of ability to match you up with everyone in their > > database so it has a lot of information that comes up including exact > > matches with shared people in your tree and in the tree of a match. I've > > often been able to add new information and connections. The ethnicity > > information is interesting. I'd no idea I'd turn out to be 51% Irish. > > I do have a beef with ancestry.com though. I originally did a YDNA test > > for the male lineage because that was a brick wall only a couple > > generations back. The YDNA feature gave me some interesting matches and > > I'd had great hopes that it would get me connected to others. However > > ancestry.com phased out that feature and stopped offering the test and so > > no new results were available. YDNA is a great tool for searching out your > > male lineage and I'm still irate about them dropping the test. MTDNA is > > less useful because each female carries two copies and children can inherit > > either their father's one copy or either of their mother's copies. YDNA is > > a single thread tracing back to every male's common ancestor with distance > > giving increased mutation variations. > > Family tree DNA is the way to go for YDNA testing now. Ancestry.com has a > > lot to offer if you have a tree with a lot of people in it to match up with > > others who've taken the test. > > A side note: We had an oral history hint that the Waldens were whalers > > from Ireland. My recent breakthrough connected me up with Nantucket and > > Martha's Vineyard where the name was spelled Waldron and the men were > > indeed whalers or in related trades. Now I'm not sure if we are Waldron > > whalers from Ireland or Waldron whalers from the Islands. Maybe DNA will > > tell me some day. > > Tom Walden > > > > > >> > >> Hello all > >> I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... > >> Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. > >> Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into it > >> at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! > >> Bridgid > >> Toronto > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not sure > >> what > >> Ancestry offers because I haven?t heard anything good about it. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Michael Kelly > >> > >> Emporium, > >> Cameron County, > >> Pennsylvania, > >> United States of America > >> > > -- > > TOM WALDEN > > > > 3707 HIGHWAY 13 > > STITES, IDAHO 83552 > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The one caution I would offer is that Family Finder results cannot tell you which bit of autosomal DNA came from which specific ancestral line. My brother has had numerous FF matches with whom we share multiple surnames, and sorting them out has been almost futile. He's had only one FF match for whom we could identify the exact shared ancestor, and that was only because it's a rather uncommon surname and because both had a reliable paper trail. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Flandrensis via Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:32 PM To: smith_shirley_ross@juno.com; cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com; twalden27@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] mtDNA The Family finder test at Family Tree DNA is a goody as it gives you cousin matchesgoing back and out to many generations if they are in the data base. So you get paternal aand maternal matches. The raw data files can also be uploaded to Gedmatch so another database for comparisons..with people from many different companies including Family Tree And Ancestry. Family tree are more reliable as Ancestor stopped testing for Y years back and so we all transfered to Ftdna and upgraded there from a basic 12 or 25 marker Y test to a 67 Y. The Family finder test is basically an ethnicity test..so breaks up your genetic make up in %s and gives you a list of cousin names in the data base which is ever growing. Our Fleming surname and Flemish Scotlands People project is at Ftdna...and I am finding new cousins every day as both my brother and I have y tested, my tested and had the Family finder test at Family tree DNA. Also prices are great, and do send kits to Australia. We had o! ver 200 testers at ancestry and they shut the Y project down. Most unreliable so decided to go with FTDNA. Yes the auto upload to YSearch another data base and mitochondrial comparisons is a bonus. There is a recent artical out about Ancestry being up for sale..so not good as do not know what they are up to > Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:40:23 +0000 > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CoTyIre] mtDNA > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Every man has his mother's mtDNA; it just cannot be passed on. mtDNA > is useful for determining geographical connections but not surname > connections. Shirley > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: David Bartley via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > To: Tom Walden <twalden27@gmail.com> > Cc: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 113 > Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:34:15 -0400 > > I think you’re a little off here, Tom, about the possibility of an individual carrying his or her father’s mtDNA. Actually, each individual carries only his or her mother’s mtDNA. Therefore, tracing back through mtDNA is exactly analogous to tracing via the Y chromosome. One gives the paternal line, whereas the other, the maternal. Either line is very limited in describing the genetic makeup of an individual. For example, going back 6 generations, often there are 32 pairs of great^4grandparents as ancestors, each of which can have genetic influence on the individual in question (not just your single pair of great^4grandparents named Walden). > > David > > > > On May 29, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Tom Walden via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Ancestry.com has a lot of ability to match you up with everyone in > > their database so it has a lot of information that comes up > > including exact matches with shared people in your tree and in the > > tree of a match. I've often been able to add new information and > > connections. The ethnicity information is interesting. I'd no idea I'd turn out to be 51% Irish. > > I do have a beef with ancestry.com though. I originally did a YDNA > > test for the male lineage because that was a brick wall only a > > couple generations back. The YDNA feature gave me some interesting > > matches and I'd had great hopes that it would get me connected to > > others. However ancestry.com phased out that feature and stopped > > offering the test and so no new results were available. YDNA is a > > great tool for searching out your male lineage and I'm still irate > > about them dropping the test. MTDNA is less useful because each > > female carries two copies and children can inherit either their > > father's one copy or either of their mother's copies. YDNA is a > > single thread tracing back to every male's common ancestor with distance giving increased mutation variations. > > Family tree DNA is the way to go for YDNA testing now. Ancestry.com > > has a lot to offer if you have a tree with a lot of people in it to > > match up with others who've taken the test. > > A side note: We had an oral history hint that the Waldens were > > whalers from Ireland. My recent breakthrough connected me up with > > Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard where the name was spelled Waldron > > and the men were indeed whalers or in related trades. Now I'm not > > sure if we are Waldron whalers from Ireland or Waldron whalers from > > the Islands. Maybe DNA will tell me some day. > > Tom Walden > > > > > >> > >> Hello all > >> I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... > >> Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. > >> Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping > >> into it at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! > >> Bridgid > >> Toronto > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not > >> sure what Ancestry offers because I haven?t heard anything good > >> about it. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Michael Kelly > >> > >> Emporium, > >> Cameron County, > >> Pennsylvania, > >> United States of America > >> > > -- > > TOM WALDEN > > > > 3707 HIGHWAY 13 > > STITES, IDAHO 83552 > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
“ My brother has had numerous FF matches with whom we share multiple surnames, and sorting them out has been almost futile." This is the reason it is suggested one has as many cousins as possible tested (at their expense if you can!) Then you can work out which side of the family a match matches. I think also the videos on youTube by Genetic Genealogy Ireland are fabulous. There is one especially about grouping your matches into townlands. I have surnames which come up as matches all the time but so far I cannot see that we have relations by these names. Most information one reads about DNA testing and genealogy stress that DNA is only another tool and needs to be used in conjunction with paper genealogy. Margaret in Oz.