Thanks to all of you for your efforts and comments. I can add that John O'Hagen Bright was born in 1785 in Beaufort County, North Carolina to John O'Hagen and Edee Bright. Edee was the daughter of Richard Bright and she was born in NC. Her mother is not known. Edee's Grandfather, was also named Richard and was born in Hyde County, NC in 1703. Edee's Great Grandfather was John Bright Jr that was born in 1680 in Lower Norfolk, VA and married Elizabeth Hill. Edee's Great Great Grand Father was John Bright that was born in 1640 in Suffolk County, England. John was transported to Norfolk, VA from Suffolk County, England by Anthony Stephens. John was married to Elenor Etheridge. Can you add anything regarding the Brights? Many thanks Archie Bright abbright1@gmail.com > On Sep 9, 2015, at 9:02 PM, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. 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Re: John O'Hagen (wendy stevenson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 05:22:40 -0400 > From: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> > Subject: [CoTyIre] parishes and townlands > To: eamonnteague@eircom.net, dbartley@eos.net, Co Tyrone Ireland > <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAHO_rcCaTVO7AVtw3jCDNd4h8H=ztXAVRMiJEaPjw6OUebwk7w@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > You could also simply check out our own website - > http://www.cotyroneireland.com/places/placeindex.html > > Jim > ========================== > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 19:32:17 -0400 > From: David Bartley <dbartley@eos.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] parishes and townlands > To: eamonn teague <eamonnteague@eircom.net> > Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <748856BE-D72A-4AF9-AF05-F69A08F7F6D9@eos.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Eamonn, > > Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran are one and the same. However, Errigal > can refer to two separate townlands: > > > Townland AKA Acres County Barony Parish PLU Province > Errigal 170 Cavan Tullygarvey Kildrumsherdan Cootehill > Ulster > Errigal 570 Tyrone Clogher Errigal Keerogue Clogher > Ulster > > > For townland searching, you could check out: > http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/ > > David > > >> Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran >>> On Sep 8, 2015, at 6:51 PM, eamonn teague via < >> cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> folks, >> >> can anyone clarify - are Errigal, Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran all > the same place ? >> >> cheers, Eamonn >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 06:10:05 -0400 > From: David Bartley <dbartley@eos.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] parishes and townlands > To: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> > Cc: Co Tyrone Ireland <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <9411867B-9594-4AD5-97F1-CD454FFBB62A@eos.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Jim, > > Yes, your website has a very nice list, often including useful references to relevant Ordnance Survey maps, though the list is not so easily searched. Also, it could be expanded to cover all the Ulster counties (e.g., County Cavan, which has its own Errigal). > > David > > >> On Sep 9, 2015, at 5:22 AM, Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> wrote: >> >> You could also simply check out our own website - http://www.cotyroneireland.com/places/placeindex.html <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/places/placeindex.html> >> >> Jim >> ========================== >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 19:32:17 -0400 >> From: David Bartley <dbartley@eos.net <mailto:dbartley@eos.net>> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] parishes and townlands >> To: eamonn teague <eamonnteague@eircom.net <mailto:eamonnteague@eircom.net>> >> Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com <mailto:cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com>> >> Message-ID: <748856BE-D72A-4AF9-AF05-F69A08F7F6D9@eos.net <mailto:748856BE-D72A-4AF9-AF05-F69A08F7F6D9@eos.net>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Eamonn, >> >> Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran are one and the same. However, Errigal can refer to two separate townlands: >> >> >> Townland AKA Acres County Barony Parish PLU Province >> Errigal 170 Cavan Tullygarvey Kildrumsherdan Cootehill Ulster >> Errigal 570 Tyrone Clogher Errigal Keerogue Clogher Ulster >> >> >> For townland searching, you could check out: http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/ <http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/> >> >> David >> >> >>> Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran >>> On Sep 8, 2015, at 6:51 PM, eamonn teague via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com <mailto:cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com>> wrote: >>> >>> folks, >>> >>> can anyone clarify - are Errigal, Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran all the same place ? >>> >>> cheers, Eamonn >>> ------------- >>> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ <http://cotyroneireland.com/> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 11:37:34 -0400 > From: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] parishes and townlands > To: David Bartley <dbartley@eos.net> > Cc: Co Tyrone Ireland <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAHO_rcD41fGT8ZEdkRfwbz5oxE-vKRBhSNQpg5vXvz+W5yVmUg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Well, I guess that would be possible BUT someone else would have to be the > webmaster!! One county is plenty for me to handle. > > Another thought.......... show me another county with over 1750 pages of > FREE transcripts???? > > Jim > >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:10 AM, David Bartley <dbartley@eos.net> wrote: >> >> Jim, >> >> Yes, your website has a very nice list, often including useful references >> to relevant Ordnance Survey maps, though the list is not so easily >> searched. Also, it could be expanded to cover all the Ulster counties >> (e.g., County Cavan, which has its own Errigal). >> >> David >> >> >> On Sep 9, 2015, at 5:22 AM, Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> wrote: >> >> You could also simply check out our own website - >> http://www.cotyroneireland.com/places/placeindex.html >> >> Jim >> ========================== >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 19:32:17 -0400 >> From: David Bartley <dbartley@eos.net> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] parishes and townlands >> To: eamonn teague <eamonnteague@eircom.net> >> Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <748856BE-D72A-4AF9-AF05-F69A08F7F6D9@eos.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Eamonn, >> >> Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran are one and the same. However, >> Errigal can refer to two separate townlands: >> >> >> Townland AKA Acres County Barony Parish PLU Province >> Errigal 170 Cavan Tullygarvey Kildrumsherdan Cootehill >> Ulster >> Errigal 570 Tyrone Clogher Errigal Keerogue Clogher >> Ulster >> >> >> For townland searching, you could check out: >> http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/ >> >> David >> >> >>> Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran >>>> On Sep 8, 2015, at 6:51 PM, eamonn teague via < >>> cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> folks, >>> >>> can anyone clarify - are Errigal, Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran >> all the same place ? >>> >>> cheers, Eamonn >>> ------------- >>> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:51:33 +0100 (IST) > From: eamonn teague <eamonnteague@eircom.net> > Subject: [CoTyIre] errigal > To: COTYRONEIRELAND <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <446434697.396497.1441828293526.JavaMail.zimbra@eircom.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > thanks to everyone for the replies > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 19:52:51 -0400 > From: John Olson-Kennedy <semathi@softhome.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] parishes and townlands -- Errigal > To: David Bartley <dbartley@eos.net>, eamonn teague > <eamonnteague@eircom.net> > Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <55F0C653.9010503@softhome.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Hello Eamonn, > > There is also the Civil Parish of Errigal Truagh, which is mostly in > County Monaghan, but does contain part of County Tyrone as well.... > > http://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/errigal-truagh/ > > John in NC > > >> On 2015/09/08 19:32 , David Bartley via wrote: >> Eamonn, >> >> Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran are one and the same. However, Errigal can refer to two separate townlands: >> >> >> Townland AKA Acres County Barony Parish PLU Province >> Errigal 170 Cavan Tullygarvey Kildrumsherdan Cootehill Ulster >> Errigal 570 Tyrone Clogher Errigal Keerogue Clogher Ulster >> >> >> For townland searching, you could check out: http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/ >> >> David >> >> >>> Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran >>> On Sep 8, 2015, at 6:51 PM, eamonn teague via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> folks, >>> >>> can anyone clarify - are Errigal, Errigal Keerogue and Errigal Kieran all the same place ? >>> >>> cheers, Eamonn >>> ------------- >>> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:33:08 -0400 > From: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> > Subject: [CoTyIre] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content > To: Co Tyrone Ireland <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAHO_rcCZ52qyAQ20s0U_FkfVkt6eYr=Vf75c4qV7V8-aBRxa8w@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > *Guy *Family Notes, Co. Tyrone 1831-66 > <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/guy.html> > > *Mitchell <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/mitchell.html>* Family > Notes, Co. Tyrone 1836-69 > <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/mitchell.html> > > *Parker* Family Notes, Strabane, Co. Tyrone 1845-68 > <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/parker.html> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:46:05 -0400 > From: Archie Bright <abbright1@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] John O'Hagen > To: "cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <10740839-590E-495D-99D1-BCBF4F9F0CED@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello, > > Since I have not received a response from you, I trust you were unable to find any information on John O'Hagen. Wish I could have provided more information on him but that was all I had. Thanks > > Archie Bright > 910-617-0825 > abbright1@gmail.com > >> On Sep 2, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Archie Bright <abbright1@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I am researching my family ancestry. My 4th Great Grandfather, John O'Hagen comes from Tyron County, Ireland. I know he married my 4th Great Grandmother, Edee Bright and they had one son John O'Hagen Bright in 1785 in Beaufort County, North Carolina, USA. I understand John O'Hagen traveled from Maryland, USA to Virginia, USA and then to North Carolina. Due to Anti-Catholic rules and some religious persecution, John O'Hagen changed his surname to Bright, his wife's maiden name becoming John O'Hagen Bright. >> >> I'm unable to find travel records for him from Ireland or exactly where or when he enter into the USA. Any help would be greatly appreciated >> >> Archie Bright >> abbright1@gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 21:02:55 -0400 > From: wendy stevenson <wendymstevenson@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] John O'Hagen > To: Archie Bright <abbright1@gmail.com> > Cc: "cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAMXHJezQie+z0XVaFefPrQBYpLqg2_2Sau2vsZzJpr9-RSf0Qg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Cant help you with O'Hagen, but I am Bright. Originally from Gloucester, > England. Where was Edee from before North Carolina? > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2015, Archie Bright via < > cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Since I have not received a response from you, I trust you were unable to >> find any information on John O'Hagen. Wish I could have provided more >> information on him but that was all I had. Thanks >> >> Archie Bright >> 910-617-0825 >> abbright1@gmail.com <javascript:;> >> >>>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Archie Bright <abbright1@gmail.com >>> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am researching my family ancestry. My 4th Great Grandfather, John >> O'Hagen comes from Tyron County, Ireland. I know he married my 4th Great >> Grandmother, Edee Bright and they had one son John O'Hagen Bright in 1785 >> in Beaufort County, North Carolina, USA. I understand John O'Hagen >> traveled from Maryland, USA to Virginia, USA and then to North Carolina. >> Due to Anti-Catholic rules and some religious persecution, John O'Hagen >> changed his surname to Bright, his wife's maiden name becoming John O'Hagen >> Bright. >>> >>> I'm unable to find travel records for him from Ireland or exactly where >> or when he enter into the USA. Any help would be greatly appreciated >>> >>> Archie Bright >>> abbright1@gmail.com <javascript:;> >> >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com <javascript:;> with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 198 > ************************************************

Hi Archie I am a bit confused as I thought you were searching for John O'Hagen. May not find anything on the Tyrone website for the wife's name if he changed it to his wife's name unless the Bright family also came from Co Tyrone and you say some came from Suffolk in England. Have you thoroughly searched our wonderful Co Tyrone website? Spelling in those days not fixed and in all your searching you should use all the variations...Hagen, Hagan, O'Hagen, O'Hagan. You could also use all those variations when searching on FS & Ancestry for shipping records. It is especially important to search under the root of the surname ie dropping the 'O' or if you are searching for 'McXXX', the 'Mc". There was a thought at some stages that dropping the "O' meant less of a connection to the RC church and the reputation of the restive Irish! I did a quick search for the combinations above on the website and found some Tyrone entries including one on the Hearth Money Roll which showed the family to be Roman Catholic as you have deduced. Cathy PS This is the time when you look at all the family legends including the names of farm or house properties that the family owned after emigrating. Often they named their property after a place in the Co in Ireland that they came from. I have also seen on a couple of records that they had actually named a child with a middle name of the place they came from in Ireland. Family stories about where they sailed from and such can provide clues. On 11/09/15 9:30 AM, "Archie Bright via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Thanks to all of you for your efforts and comments. > > I can add that John O'Hagen Bright was born in 1785 in Beaufort County, North > Carolina to John O'Hagen and Edee Bright. Edee was the daughter of Richard > Bright and she was born in NC. Her mother is not known. Edee's Grandfather, > was also named Richard and was born in Hyde County, NC in 1703. Edee's Great > Grandfather was John Bright Jr that was born in 1680 in Lower Norfolk, VA and > married Elizabeth Hill. Edee's Great Great Grand Father was John Bright that > was born in 1640 in Suffolk County, England. John was transported to Norfolk, > VA from Suffolk County, England by Anthony Stephens. John was married to > Elenor Etheridge. > > Can you add anything regarding the Brights? > > Many thanks > > Archie Bright > abbright1@gmail.com > >> >> >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 20:46:05 -0400 >> From: Archie Bright <abbright1@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] John O'Hagen >> To: "cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <10740839-590E-495D-99D1-BCBF4F9F0CED@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Hello, >> >> Since I have not received a response from you, I trust you were unable to >> find any information on John O'Hagen. Wish I could have provided more >> information on him but that was all I had. Thanks >> >> Archie Bright >> 910-617-0825 >> abbright1@gmail.com >> >>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 10:54 PM, Archie Bright <abbright1@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am researching my family ancestry. My 4th Great Grandfather, John O'Hagen >>> comes from Tyron County, Ireland. I know he married my 4th Great >>> Grandmother, Edee Bright and they had one son John O'Hagen Bright in 1785 in >>> Beaufort County, North Carolina, USA. I understand John O'Hagen traveled >>> from Maryland, USA to Virginia, USA and then to North Carolina. Due to >>> Anti-Catholic rules and some religious persecution, John O'Hagen changed his >>> surname to Bright, his wife's maiden name becoming John O'Hagen Bright. >>> >>> I'm unable to find travel records for him from Ireland or exactly where or >>> when he enter into the USA. Any help would be greatly appreciated >>> >>> Archie Bright >>> abbright1@gmail.com >> >> >> >> ------- >> >> To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 198 >> ************************************************ > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message