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    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research
    2. Boyd Gray via
    3. Hi Rocky, What you are asking for is a very tall order. And I am not sure you are actually asking the right question anyway. If you trawl the internet, you will find endless sources of hints and tips on how to research Irish genealogy and if you trawl the internet you will find endless sources of data and links to data that will enable you to do this research. County Tyrone is one of the best endowed counties in the whole of Ireland thanks to the work of Jim McKane, Len Swindley and others, who have created a website (called CTI) that has everything you will ever need to research your Tyrone ancestry. Here it is: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/ And you will be able to do it all from the comfort of your own home in Main Street, Canada. And that is really what your cousin needs to do. Instead of "prepping to do genealogy" when she comes to Ireland, she needs to do the genealogy in Canada in preparation for when she actually comes to Ireland. Then she can enjoy the fruits of her labours and add to what she has already discovered by visiting the area, speaking to locals and checking church records, which are generally not online. The starting point for all Irish folks whose ancestors emigrated to the diaspora is the Griffiths Valuation (GV) of circa 1858, even if they left before that date. I say this for three reasons 1. There are very few useful records before this survey 2. It covers every family in Ireland and thus the folks "left behind" by the émigrés should be there 3. It is searchable online. And in order to search the GV you need to know the name of the townland where your folks lived. Mountfield is not a townland. Google, that essential genealogical research tool, tells me that it is "a small village in the townland of Aghalane, northeast of Omagh". Insert Aghalane into the GV search box here: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearc h There are none but we can see that Aghalane is in the Parish of Cappagh. So, insert McFadden, Parish of Cappagh, County of Tyrone into the GV search engine and you get this: Griffith's Valuation Record Information Tenant Family Name 1 MCFADDEN Forename 1 THOMAS Landlord Family Name 2 STACK Forename 2 THOMAS L. Prefix REV Location County TYRONE Barony STRABANE, UPPER Union OMAGH Parish CAPPAGH Townland MULLAGHMORE Place Name MULLAGHMORE Place Type TOWNLAND Publication Details Position on Page 6 Printing Date 1860 Act 15&16 Sheet Number 35 Map Reference 19 You wanted a Thomas. This Thomas is actually the ONLY McFadden in the area. He could well be the father of your "clan ancestor", James McFadden. He lived on Plot 19 in the townland of Mullaghmore and the map on the GV website shows that Mullaghmore is between Omagh and Mountfield. Although it is now in the middle of a housing estate, the overlying ariel photograph shows there is still a house on the same spot. Insert Hampton into the GV database and you find that, although Hampton is NOT a very common name in Tyrone, there are in fact eight Hampton families living in the Parish of Cappagh. HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON WILLIAM TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON ANDREW TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON ALEXANDER TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON JAMES TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON JOHN TYRONE CAPPAGH This tells me that you are definitely in the right area. This is only the start. If you use the hints and tips, the data and the links on the CTI website, you will have a much better idea of what your cousin needs to see and find when she eventually arrives in Ireland. And I can think of worse places to start than here: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/videos/monreagh.html Hope this helps, Boyd http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rbsampson via Sent: 03 September 2015 04:59 To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research ---------------------------------- I have a cousin coming to Ireland to research for the first time. I've read in the past posts some hints to use when searching. If anyone can help on where to start and what to look for from towns or cities with archives or church records.... Feel free to share. My cousin is older and will be researching and visiting various places... Stating on Dublin for a while. She wanted some hints and clues from parking to travel and prepping to do genealogy. Our clan ancestor was James McFadden of county Tyrone .... We have some hints as to the village of Mountfield. McPhadden was the spelling of our name back in the 1840s before we came to Canada. Thomas was the father of James but that's all we know so far. A sibling to James McFadden was: Rebecca McFadden who married surname of Hampton in Mountfield Tryone. James mcfadden married a number of time in Canada to native Indian women ( First Nations women). He settled by 1850 in western canada in what is now the province of British Columbia.... In the Gulf Islands. Any dna trivial clues or hints on searching the archives or PRONI will help. Church hints or newspaper lists etc will be great .... Travelling from BC in Canada ... Looking forward to hints and suggestions on this search!! Many kind regards and cheers from Rocky Sampson --------------------------------- Sent from my iPhone ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/03/2015 06:15:30
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research
    2. Ulster Ancestry via
    3. "Hampton" in Tyrone can also be found as Hempton. A branch of these Hemptons {from Ardstraw if I recall correctly} moved into Londonderry city in the early 1800s where they became established printers and booksellers their best known publication probably being "Walkers Siege of Derry" of which I have a copy published in 1902. Something else to keep in mind with the McFaddens, was that a number of them changed their name to Patterson {I suppose to appear more anglified} which can complicate research a little. A bit like some McGirrs becoming Shorts" in South Tyrone I have found McGirrs and Shorts in the district of Clogher, both from the same family! best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > To: rbsampson@yahoo.com > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:15:30 +0100 > CC: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Hi Rocky, > > What you are asking for is a very tall order. And I am not sure you are > actually asking the right question anyway. > > If you trawl the internet, you will find endless sources of hints and tips > on how to research Irish genealogy and if you trawl the internet you will > find endless sources of data and links to data that will enable you to do > this research. County Tyrone is one of the best endowed counties in the > whole of Ireland thanks to the work of Jim McKane, Len Swindley and others, > who have created a website (called CTI) that has everything you will ever > need to research your Tyrone ancestry. Here it is: > http://www.cotyroneireland.com/ > > And you will be able to do it all from the comfort of your own home in Main > Street, Canada. And that is really what your cousin needs to do. Instead > of "prepping to do genealogy" when she comes to Ireland, she needs to do the > genealogy in Canada in preparation for when she actually comes to Ireland. > Then she can enjoy the fruits of her labours and add to what she has already > discovered by visiting the area, speaking to locals and checking church > records, which are generally not online. > > The starting point for all Irish folks whose ancestors emigrated to the > diaspora is the Griffiths Valuation (GV) of circa 1858, even if they left > before that date. I say this for three reasons > 1. There are very few useful records before this survey > 2. It covers every family in Ireland and thus the folks "left behind" by > the émigrés should be there > 3. It is searchable online. > > And in order to search the GV you need to know the name of the townland > where your folks lived. Mountfield is not a townland. Google, that > essential genealogical research tool, tells me that it is "a small village > in the townland of Aghalane, northeast of Omagh". Insert Aghalane into the > GV search box here: > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearc > h > > There are none but we can see that Aghalane is in the Parish of Cappagh. > So, insert McFadden, Parish of Cappagh, County of Tyrone into the GV search > engine and you get this: > Griffith's Valuation Record Information > Tenant > Family Name 1 MCFADDEN > Forename 1 THOMAS > Landlord > Family Name 2 STACK > Forename 2 THOMAS L. > Prefix REV > Location > County TYRONE > Barony STRABANE, UPPER > Union OMAGH > Parish CAPPAGH > Townland MULLAGHMORE > Place Name MULLAGHMORE > Place Type TOWNLAND > Publication Details > Position on Page 6 > Printing Date 1860 > Act 15&16 > Sheet Number 35 > Map Reference 19 > > You wanted a Thomas. This Thomas is actually the ONLY McFadden in the area. > He could well be the father of your "clan ancestor", James McFadden. He > lived on Plot 19 in the townland of Mullaghmore and the map on the GV > website shows that Mullaghmore is between Omagh and Mountfield. Although it > is now in the middle of a housing estate, the overlying ariel photograph > shows there is still a house on the same spot. > > Insert Hampton into the GV database and you find that, although Hampton is > NOT a very common name in Tyrone, there are in fact eight Hampton families > living in the Parish of Cappagh. > HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON WILLIAM TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON ANDREW TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON ALEXANDER TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON JAMES TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON JOHN TYRONE CAPPAGH > This tells me that you are definitely in the right area. > > This is only the start. If you use the hints and tips, the data and the > links on the CTI website, you will have a much better idea of what your > cousin needs to see and find when she eventually arrives in Ireland. And I > can think of worse places to start than here: > http://www.cotyroneireland.com/videos/monreagh.html > > Hope this helps, > > Boyd > > http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm > > http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rbsampson via > Sent: 03 September 2015 04:59 > To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research > > ---------------------------------- > I have a cousin coming to Ireland to research for the first time. I've read > in the past posts some hints to use when searching. > If anyone can help on where to start and what to look for from towns or > cities with archives or church records.... Feel free to share. My cousin is > older and will be researching and visiting various places... Stating on > Dublin for a while. She wanted some hints and clues from parking to travel > and prepping to do genealogy. > > Our clan ancestor was James McFadden of county Tyrone .... We have some > hints as to the village of Mountfield. McPhadden was the spelling of our > name back in the 1840s before we came to Canada. Thomas was the father of > James but that's all we know so far. A sibling to James McFadden was: > Rebecca McFadden who married surname of Hampton in Mountfield Tryone. James > mcfadden married a number of time in Canada to native Indian women ( First > Nations women). He settled by 1850 in western canada in what is now the > province of British Columbia.... In the Gulf Islands. > > Any dna trivial clues or hints on searching the archives or PRONI will help. > Church hints or newspaper lists etc will be great .... Travelling from BC in > Canada ... Looking forward to hints and suggestions on this search!! > > Many kind regards and cheers from Rocky Sampson > --------------------------------- > Sent from my iPhone > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/03/2015 05:28:49
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research
    2. s.johnston8 via
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Boyd Gray via &lt;cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com&gt; To: 'rbsampson' &lt;rbsampson@yahoo.com&gt; CC: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:35 Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research Hi Rocky, What you are asking for is a very tall order. And I am not sure you are actually asking the right question anyway. If you trawl the internet, you will find endless sources of hints and tips on how to research Irish genealogy and if you trawl the internet you will find endless sources of data and links to data that will enable you to do this research. County Tyrone is one of the best endowed counties in the whole of Ireland thanks to the work of Jim McKane, Len Swindley and others, who have created a website (called CTI) that has everything you will ever need to research your Tyrone ancestry. Here it is: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/ And you will be able to do it all from the comfort of your own home in Main Street, Canada. And that is really what your cousin needs to do. Instead of "prepping to do genealogy" when she comes to Ireland, she needs to do the genealogy in Canada in preparation for when she actually comes to Ireland. Then she can enjoy the fruits of her labours and add to what she has already discovered by visiting the area, speaking to locals and checking church records, which are generally not online. The starting point for all Irish folks whose ancestors emigrated to the diaspora is the Griffiths Valuation (GV) of circa 1858, even if they left before that date. I say this for three reasons 1. There are very few useful records before this survey 2. It covers every family in Ireland and thus the folks "left behind" by the émigrés should be there 3. It is searchable online. And in order to search the GV you need to know the name of the townland where your folks lived. Mountfield is not a townland. Google, that essential genealogical research tool, tells me that it is "a small village in the townland of Aghalane, northeast of Omagh". Insert Aghalane into the GV search box here: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearc h There are none but we can see that Aghalane is in the Parish of Cappagh. So, insert McFadden, Parish of Cappagh, County of Tyrone into the GV search engine and you get this: Griffith's Valuation Record Information Tenant Family Name 1 MCFADDEN Forename 1 THOMAS Landlord Family Name 2 STACK Forename 2 THOMAS L. Prefix REV Location County TYRONE Barony STRABANE, UPPER Union OMAGH Parish CAPPAGH Townland MULLAGHMORE Place Name MULLAGHMORE Place Type TOWNLAND Publication Details Position on Page 6 Printing Date 1860 Act 15&16 Sheet Number 35 Map Reference 19 You wanted a Thomas. This Thomas is actually the ONLY McFadden in the area. He could well be the father of your "clan ancestor", James McFadden. He lived on Plot 19 in the townland of Mullaghmore and the map on the GV website shows that Mullaghmore is between Omagh and Mountfield. Although it is now in the middle of a housing estate, the overlying ariel photograph shows there is still a house on the same spot. Insert Hampton into the GV database and you find that, although Hampton is NOT a very common name in Tyrone, there are in fact eight Hampton families living in the Parish of Cappagh. HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON WILLIAM TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON ANDREW TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON ALEXANDER TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON JAMES TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON JOHN TYRONE CAPPAGH This tells me that you are definitely in the right area. This is only the start. If you use the hints and tips, the data and the links on the CTI website, you will have a much better idea of what your cousin needs to see and find when she eventually arrives in Ireland. And I can think of worse places to start than here: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/videos/monreagh.html Hope this helps, Boyd http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rbsampson via Sent: 03 September 2015 04:59 To: &lt;COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com&gt; Subject: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research ---------------------------------- I have a cousin coming to Ireland to research for the first time. I've read in the past posts some hints to use when searching. If anyone can help on where to start and what to look for from towns or cities with archives or church records.... Feel free to share. My cousin is older and will be researching and visiting various places... Stating on Dublin for a while. She wanted some hints and clues from parking to travel and prepping to do genealogy. Our clan ancestor was James McFadden of county Tyrone .... We have some hints as to the village of Mountfield. McPhadden was the spelling of our name back in the 1840s before we came to Canada. Thomas was the father of James but that's all we know so far. A sibling to James McFadden was: Rebecca McFadden who married surname of Hampton in Mountfield Tryone. James mcfadden married a number of time in Canada to native Indian women ( First Nations women). He settled by 1850 in western canada in what is now the province of British Columbia.... In the Gulf Islands. Any dna trivial clues or hints on searching the archives or PRONI will help. Church hints or newspaper lists etc will be great .... Travelling from BC in Canada ... Looking forward to hints and suggestions on this search!! Many kind regards and cheers from Rocky Sampson --------------------------------- Sent from my iPhone ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/03/2015 11:43:31
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research
    2. ray15 via
    3. Hello Jim McKane and Boyd and list. I think that an edited version of Boyd’s reply would go very well on the CTI web-site. It would then make a good ‘go to” for anyone to refer new Tyrone researchers to; and would save a lot of repetitive typing time. I am thinking of a ‘subject’ heading something like: “Starting Tyrone Research”, or maybe just “Starting Your Research”. (I tried to edit it myself, but felt that Boyd might not be too happy with my messing around with it, so deleted it all instead! haha.) On a slightly different tangent, it was pointed out to me a while back that the CTI list has a GUESTBOOK on its header-line. If you click on that, whilst there is a provision to sign the guestbook; there is a small provision at the bottom of the page, to "VIEW the GUESTBOOK". When one clicks on that "VIEW THE GUESTBOOK" link, one finds LOTS of entries about their families, by people who have visited the CTI website. It was suggested to me that responding to those guestbook entries suggesting that they join the CTI list and post their family queries to the list, might assist those people who might otherwise receive no feedback from their Guestbook entry. Unfortunately I no longer have the time to be able to attempt to do this, but I am posting the suggestion to the list, in the hope that some list members might have the time and the interest. Thanks as always to our wonderful volunteer stalwarts who keep this list and the CTI website running so well, to the advantage of all of us. Regards to all. Ray in Oz On 3 Sep 2015, at 9:15 pm, Boyd Gray via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote:

    09/03/2015 04:25:14
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research
    2. Len Swindley via
    3. Well said, Boyd. Rocky,The 1827 tithe applotment book book for Cappagh parish should be essential to your search. http://cotyroneireland.com/tithe/titheindex.html where you will also find an introduction and an explanation of the contents of the book. The following entries are surely your forebears:McFADDEN Thomas, Ballynamullin,HEMPTON James, RosnamuckHEMPTON George, RosnamuckHEMPTON William, Rosnamuck These records contain data a whole generation prior to Griffiths Valuation. You are a most fortunate researcher. Len Swindley,Melbourne, Australia

    09/03/2015 05:39:01