PRONI Guide to Church Records records any registers/ records that await filming and the years covered and are still held at the local church, but in the case of Clogher no such comment is contained within the entry. As neither NLI and PRONI have filmed them it must be assumed that the baptisms were not recorded or the register has been destroyed. There was no legal compunction to maintain registers. This changed upon the introduction of civil registration in 1864 when the responsibility of recording BMDs became the responsibility of the State. As an example, I can quote the records for the church attended by my forebears; there are no surviving records prior to 1865. Hope this clarifies the situation, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 14:03:53 +0100 > From: eamonnteague@eircom.net > To: len_swindley@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records > > Thanks Len, its the Clogher ones I looked at. Do you know if the parish holds any earlier records locally that haven't been shared with NLI ? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Len Swindley via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:45:52 +0100 (IST) > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records > > I think you are referring to RC records as the NLI does not hold films of C of I registers (these are held at the NAI). > > The earliest surviving records for the Catholic parish of Clogher have been filmed by PRONI: > > Aughintain (Fivemiletown Chapel); Baptisms 1870-81, Marriages 1870-83 > > Clogher Chapel; Baptisms 1856-81, Marriages 1825-35 & 1840-81 > > Hope this helps, > > Len Swindley, > Melbourne, Australia > > > > > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:54:41 +0100 > > Subject: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records > > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > > > Is this for C of I records as I have some for Clogher C of I that I copied > > from PRONI a few years ago? > > What is the name you are looking for? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: eamonn teague <eamonnteague@eircom.net> > > Subject: [CoTyIre] baptism/birth records > > To: COTYRONEIRELAND <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <20841928.260838.1438455243427.JavaMail.zimbra@eircom.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Folks, > > > > does anyone know if baptism records for the parish of Clogher Co. Tyrone > > exist for the period 1825 - 1835 ? the records in the NLI have records from > > 1853 on but I was wondering if the church might have locally held earlier > > records ???? > > if not any hints on how to find parental records/evidence for someone who I > > have a marriage record for in that parish in 1853 ? > > > > > > > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This might help - On July 8, 2015, Catholic records were released to view and for free at: http://registers.nli.ie/ Baptism, Marriages, Burials for most, not all of the Parishes (nice map to help you figure out most likely parishes. Bad news if you don't have a clue where your folks lived). Not all years for all records are represented. In fact, some parish years/records are quite skimpy. Some of the records were written by a person whose handwritten skills created a work of art. Most were not. Many are barely legible or decipherable. If that weren't enough, you have to go through page by page as they are not indexed. And even if you find someone who sort of fits the bill, how can you be sure if you don't have other supporting documentation? Example: marriage record where the couple's names are 'right' (but common), the timeframe is within reason, but with no parent's names provided (and you didn't know them anyway) how can you be sure it's your couple? Still, I can do it at home and not have spent the money to fly across the pond to sit at PRONI going through microfilm. When I do go over, hopefully, I'll have nailed at least the village so I can stand on the old sod (along with going through microfilm) <sign> so little time, so many scans. The website FAQs - http://registers.nli.ie/help. This link may be of some use, https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Ireland_Catholic_Church_Records. And if any of you nice folks run across a Hugh Treanor or Catherine Sherlock - please give me a shout. :-) Ellen Virginia USA -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Len Swindley via Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:34 AM To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records PRONI Guide to Church Records records any registers/ records that await filming and the years covered and are still held at the local church, but in the case of Clogher no such comment is contained within the entry. As neither NLI and PRONI have filmed them it must be assumed that the baptisms were not recorded or the register has been destroyed. There was no legal compunction to maintain registers. This changed upon the introduction of civil registration in 1864 when the responsibility of recording BMDs became the responsibility of the State. As an example, I can quote the records for the church attended by my forebears; there are no surviving records prior to 1865. Hope this clarifies the situation, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 14:03:53 +0100 > From: eamonnteague@eircom.net > To: len_swindley@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records > > Thanks Len, its the Clogher ones I looked at. Do you know if the parish holds any earlier records locally that haven't been shared with NLI ? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Len Swindley via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:45:52 +0100 (IST) > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records > > I think you are referring to RC records as the NLI does not hold films of C of I registers (these are held at the NAI). > > The earliest surviving records for the Catholic parish of Clogher have been filmed by PRONI: > > Aughintain (Fivemiletown Chapel); Baptisms 1870-81, Marriages 1870-83 > > Clogher Chapel; Baptisms 1856-81, Marriages 1825-35 & 1840-81 > > Hope this helps, > > Len Swindley, > Melbourne, Australia > > > > > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:54:41 +0100 > > Subject: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records > > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > > > Is this for C of I records as I have some for Clogher C of I that I > > copied from PRONI a few years ago? > > What is the name you are looking for? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: eamonn teague <eamonnteague@eircom.net> > > Subject: [CoTyIre] baptism/birth records > > To: COTYRONEIRELAND <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: > > <20841928.260838.1438455243427.JavaMail.zimbra@eircom.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Folks, > > > > does anyone know if baptism records for the parish of Clogher Co. > > Tyrone exist for the period 1825 - 1835 ? the records in the NLI > > have records from > > 1853 on but I was wondering if the church might have locally held > > earlier records ???? > > if not any hints on how to find parental records/evidence for > > someone who I have a marriage record for in that parish in 1853 ? > > > > > > > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message