I have now returned to the states and cannot look at the microfilm. Those records are not online and have to be viewed at PRONI. There might be a service for paying someone there to search. It took me about four hours with the magnifying glass to find the one record. Kim Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:00 AM, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated web site. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: C of I records of Donaghenry (John M. Collins) > 2. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 167 > (Larry and Debbie MacDonald) > 3. Re: Bailey family & Donaghenry (John M. Collins) > 4. Bleakley lines of Kilskerry Parish, Co. Tyrone (Darrel Hockley) > 5. One omission - Bleakley lines of Kilskerry (Darrel Hockley) > 6. Re: Bleakley lines of Kilskerry Parish, Co. Tyrone > (Margaret Barnes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:59:59 -0400 > From: "John M. Collins" <jmacollins@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] C of I records of Donaghenry > To: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1CF5B161-1139-4CE5-A11A-0D0F93C1852D@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello Kimberly > > My COLLINS family of early Cookstown years 1720-1850 has a connection to Donaghenry. There are two known COLLINS graves in the old Donaghenry Graveyard that are theirs plus the WEIR family which is connected by marriage. While both of these families were Presbyterian, C of I records for them would not be unusual. > > Is there any way to get the microfilm you mention checked for these names in any context? Also to see if the entries in it have any references to Cookstown area. > > Earliest known COLLINS names are James (abt 1705-1786), James (1735-1805) surg., David (abt 1740-?), John (1743-1811), and WEIR name is John (1772-1850). Both families were local merchants. Common female names in later years are Mary, Jane, Isabella, Maria. > > Many thanks for your posting. > > John Collins in Sarnia > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 09:35:21 -0500 > From: Kimberly McCord <kamccor@ilstu.edu> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 165 > To: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4D7952DC-61E4-4092-83CF-A93B5F8FDC55@ilstu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi, > > For anyone interested, I found Church of Ireland in Donaghenry Parish records going back to the early 1700's. They are on microfilm at PRONI. The records are in very poor condition and have to be read with a magnifying glass. I was able to find one very clear record that gives me some interesting information on my ancestors. > > Kim McCord > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:46:55 -0600 > From: "Larry and Debbie MacDonald" <larry_m@shaw.ca> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 167 > To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BBC983B215CC483C876DD6E53803B7EF@MSI> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > I found the 1830 and 1864 church census for Dromore Presbyterian on the > Emerald Ancestors website. > > "Church censuses as such were unknown in Presbyterian congregations, > although occasionally a minister would list member families and their > townlands; these are generally located in the kirk session records, but not > always. > > Such records within Presbyterian churches are rather rare. Where they have > survived they are recorded within PRONI's online Guide to Church Records." > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 11:18:05 -0400 > From: "John M. Collins" <jmacollins@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Bailey family & Donaghenry > To: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Cc: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4F0033E0-53E7-4879-8D53-EF73B91E4868@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello Gerald > > Read your post with interest as I have a BAILEY name associated with my COLLINS family and have no earlier details on it. > > - Elizabeth J. BAILEY is widowed, designated as a sister of the widow Sarah COLLINS and lives with her in Philly in the 1880 US census. She is age 68 (born 1811/12) Ireland which was two years younger than Sarah in that census. Their parents also born in Ireland. > > - Sarah _________ (abt 1812 Ireland - 29 May 1891 Philadelphia, PA) married 1839-45 in USA to William Clarke COLLINS (1804 Desertcreat Parish, Cookstown area, Tyr. - 22 Mar 1868 Philadelphia, PA). Marriage may be William C. COLLINS & Sarah Collins on 5 Nov 1840 in Marshall Co., Tenn. by D.B. Bells, Minister of the Gospel. > > There were many BAILEY families in that county in the 1840 US census and William COLLINS and at least one of his male cousins was known to have been there in that time frame. > > They lived in Philly where he was a commission merchant in wholesale food items. Six children known of whom only William survived to maturity, married but no children are known. > Using census returns 1850 to 1880, Sarah's DOB is 1822, 1815, 1815, 1810. > > I would like to learn the maiden name of these two sisters. I assume that Sarah's surname of Collins in the marriage record is simply the application of her husband's name as was standard in Ch. of Eng. parishes in that time frame. > > The above William COLLINS had an uncle and aunt William & Theresa COLLINS and cousins living at Donaghenry, Tyr. > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > > John Collins in Sarnia, Ont., Canada > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:20:27 +0000 (UTC) > From: Gerald Bailey <g.bailey3308@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Records for William Bailey > To: Kimberly McCord via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1733260783.21860.1438629628001.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > My name is Gerald Bailey and I am looking for info on William Bailey and family who came to the US on about 1828. I think that he may have lived in the Donaghenry Parish in Ireland. He had a brother David Bailey a few years younger and came to New York about two years before William. I am trying to learn just where in Ireland William Bailey lived and if any of the family is still in Ireland. William Bailey? was born about 1800 and married a Jane? Can you help? Gerry > > ------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 01:19:16 +0000 (UTC) > From: Darrel Hockley <ddh_regina@yahoo.ca> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Bleakley lines of Kilskerry Parish, Co. Tyrone > To: Tyrone Mailing List <cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1804362452.829708.1438823956996.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I figured it is time to share with other researchers what I have found on the Bleakley lines (surname variously spelled) of Kilskerry Parish, by tracing the ancestry of Charlotte Bleakley (1861 to 1939). > Charlotte Bleakley was born on 7 Nov. 1861 in the Kilskerry Parish, Co. Tyrone, the daughter of Charles Bleakley (1816 to 1904) and his wife Mary Jane Bleakley (1834 to 1891). Charlotte married on 25 June 1885 in the Methodist Church at Irvinestown, Co. Fermanagh to Robert Loane (1855 to 1929) and lived at Drumharvey, Co. Tyrone where they raised a large family. Charlotte died on 30 July 1939 at Drumharvey. > Charles Bleakley was born in 1816 in Cabra, Co. Tyrone and was baptised on 25 Dec. 1816 at Kilskerry Parish. He was the son of Irwin Bleakley of Cabra and his wife Mary Elliott (1793 to 1849). Charles married on 18 March 1858 in Kilskerry Parish, Mary Jane Bleakley. Mary Jane was born in 1834 at Garvaghy, Kilskerry, Co. Tyrone., the daughter of Irwin Bleakley of Gavaghy and his wife Sophia Willson. Mary Jane was baptised on 24 June 1834 at Kilskerry Parish. She died on 17 June 1891 at Mullybreslin, Co. Fermanagh. Charles died on 25 January 1904 also at Mullybreslin. > Irwin Bleakley of Cabra married on 5 November or on 5 December 1810 at Kilskerry Parish to Mary Elliott. Mary was born in 1793 at Dreagh/Dreigh, Co. Tyrone to William Elliott and his wife Lily (maiden name unknown to me). Mary died in 1849 at Cabra and was buried on 7 July 1849 in the Kilskerry Parish graveyard. > Irwin Bleakley of Gavaghy was born in 1784 at Garvaghy, Kilskerry, Co. Tyrone, the son of Irwin Bleakley and his wife Eleanor Bleakley of Clogherat. About 1820 he married Sophia Willson, the daughter of Mathew Willson and his wife Sophia Gray. Irwin died in 1861 and was buried on 8 May 1861 in the Kilskerry Parish graveyard. Sophia died in 1858 and was buried on 16 May 1858 at Kilskerry. > Irwin Bleakley was born in 1757 and on 8 Dec. 1783 he married Eleanor Bleakley of Clogherat at Kilskerry Parish. He died in 1837 at Garvaghy and was buried on 7 June 1837 at Kilskerry. Eleanor died in 1843 at Garvaghy and was buried on 1 August 1843 at Kilskerry. > Mathew Willson married on 7 Sept. 1787 at Kilskerry Parish Sophia Gray. Sophia was born in 1771 at Feglis, Kilskerry. She died in 1851 at Feglis and was buried on 9 January 1851 in the Kilskerry Parish graveyard. > I hope the above helps some researchers. > Darrel Hockley > Regina, SK, Canada > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 02:06:52 +0000 (UTC) > From: Darrel Hockley <ddh_regina@yahoo.ca> > Subject: [CoTyIre] One omission - Bleakley lines of Kilskerry > To: Tyrone Mailing List <cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1218613706.870570.1438826812494.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I forgot to mention that Eleanor Bleakley of Clogherat was born in 1764. > Darrel Hockley > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 16:45:21 +1000 > From: Margaret Barnes <barnesdm@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Bleakley lines of Kilskerry Parish, Co. Tyrone > To: Darrel Hockley <ddh_regina@yahoo.ca> > Cc: Tyrone Mailing List <cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <FAD0A6FB-F8A1-41CC-8C27-D5C8B9B8401D@bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Darrel, > > I have also gleaned much of this information previously altho my interest is my gg grandfather Mat(t?)hew Wilson. I am presuming that you are a descendant of a Bleakley. > Have you had your DNA tested? I know there is at least one Wilson male from Canada who is listed on Family Tree DNA, who is descended from a Wilson/Bleakley (or Blakeley) union. Unfortunately I have connections to this family but cannot exactly place where my gg grandfather fits in. > > Margaret in Oz. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 168 > ************************************************

Hello Larry & Debbie, Are you able to tell the list what information is contained in the c1830 & 1864 Dromore Presbyterian censuses? Names and ages of members and their children AND townlands? Do you have any data that you may like to share with the list? Regards, Len Swindley > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:46:55 -0600 > > From: "Larry and Debbie MacDonald" <larry_m@shaw.ca> > > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 167 > > To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <BBC983B215CC483C876DD6E53803B7EF@MSI> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > > > I found the 1830 and 1864 church census for Dromore Presbyterian on the > > Emerald Ancestors website. > > > > "Church censuses as such were unknown in Presbyterian congregations, > > although occasionally a minister would list member families and their > > townlands; these are generally located in the kirk session records, but not > > always. > > > > Such records within Presbyterian churches are rather rare. Where they have > > survived they are recorded within PRONI's online Guide to Church Records." > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Larry and Debbie, Echoing Len's thoughts, it would be great if you could share the general information recorded in the c1830 & 1864 Dromore Presbyterian censuses. By sharing your knowledge about such lesser-known sources, you could be helping others locate a record which could be a key to unlocking more ancestral information. ~Clare Ass't List Admin > Len Swindley via wrote: > > Hello Larry & Debbie, > Are you able to tell the list what information is contained in the c1830 & 1864 Dromore Presbyterian censuses? Names and ages of members and their children AND townlands? > Do you have any data that you may like to share with the list? > Regards, > Len Swindley > >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:46:55 -0600 >>> From: "Larry and Debbie MacDonald" >>> >>> I found the 1830 and 1864 church census for Dromore Presbyterian on the >>> Emerald Ancestors website. >>> >>> "Church censuses as such were unknown in Presbyterian congregations, >>> although occasionally a minister would list member families and their >>> townlands; these are generally located in the kirk session records, but not >>> always. >>> >>> Such records within Presbyterian churches are rather rare. Where they have >>> survived they are recorded within PRONI's online Guide to Church Records."

I have just returned from holiday and have the following few entries from Dromore Presbyterian Film No. MIC1P/247 22 November 1841 Matthew WILSON son of Robert WILSON and Jane WILSON otherwise Bleakley of Moorfield Parish of Kilseaddy (Kilskeery?) married to Catherine MAGUIRE daughter of John MAGUIRE and Isabella otherwise CUNNINGHAM of Ohengony Parish of Dromore Witnesses: William Irvine and Thomas Bleakley February 1843 Edward son of Andrew and Martha JOHNSON otherwise WILSON of Shaneragh, Dromore married to Isabel McAuley daughter of James McAULEY and Jane. 7 March 1843 Arthur son of William STEWART and Catherine of Drumcheerin Fermanagh married to Sarah SPROULE daughter of Andrew and Jane of Drumadreghy, Parish of Templemaghery, Fermanagh 6 February 1842 Baptism of May daughter of John and Mary WILSON of Drumskinny 1 February 1846 Baptism of John son of Edward and Isabel JOHNSON of Shanagh I also have a few notes from Fintona Presbyterian MIC/1P/283 - baptisms September, 1843 Joseph WILSON son of Andrew and Ann Neily 22 November 1841 John WILSON son of Andrew and Eliza McCluny 20 May 1844 Mary Ann WILSON daughter of Stephen and Mary Roberson 25 February, 1846 Andrew WILSON son of Andrew and Ann Margaret in Oz.