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    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Robert Lucas Transcription
    2. ray15 via
    3. Shirley, thanks for sharing all of the information with the list.  I have a thought relating to the headstone inscription and his wife "Mary (sic)".  JUST PERHAPS, that might have been inscribed at Marg --- followed by a small "t" to the right of the "g" and above it -- which is sometimes called a "superscript" (contrasted with a 'subscript' where it it written slightly below the line).   We all make mistakes when transcribing, and if the stone is a little aged, then the printing/writing/incisions might not be so clearly visible.   What I am getting at therefore, is that the inscription might have read that his wife was in fact Margt. and not Mary. The "sic" seems like it has been sent to you by the transcriber, or by someone who has copied the transcription for you (perhaps from a published work), so maybe they are thereby merely pointing out that their transcription (or their interpretation of it)  gives the wife's name as Mary, where you might have informed them that the wife was Margaret.  Hope that this is not 'clear as mud". ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "S.Harper" <teran81gan@bigpond.com> Yesterday I asked the list about buying credits from the NIdirect website. I had two helpful replies, one from Ally and the other from List Admin. Clare who has suggested I share the transcription I hav e now found with this list. This reads: Robert Lucas, Lisnamonaghan, d. 2 March, 1868, male, farmer, married aged 83, cause of death old age. David Pritchard present at death, Glenadush. This same Robert Lucas is buried at St. Michael's, Castlecaulfield, Donaghmore with somewhat different information from the church register, which I received from another source which read: Robert Lucas d. 4 March, 1867, Lisnamonaghan, aged 82. I thought there was a bit of a coincidence here and there could have been a mix-up. There is also a headstone showing his name and townland, aged 82, but showing no actual date of death. The headstone reads: "Sacred to the memory of Robert Lucas of Lisnamonaghan Aged 82 And his affectionate wife Mary (sic) Lucas Aged 65 years Also James Lucas aged 6 years and 10 months Charles Lucas died July 5th 1908 Aged 86 years Also his daughters Ellen aged 23 years Eliza Ann aged 35 years Also his wife Mary Jane died Nov 29th 1911 aged 80 years." I also searched the civil registration for another Robert Lucas dying in 1867 aged 82, but none exists, so there is only one, as I suspected. I know Charles Lucas was his son and I think the headstone must have been erected after the death of Charles and the descendants simply got it wrong and it's just a case of a bad memory so many years later. I'm now on the search for Robert's wife Mary (sic) !! who I believe was actually Margaret Dickson, his first wife, which could explain the word (sic) on the headstone. Robert later married Ruth Pritchard in 1856. Anyone else out there descended from this family? Thanks again to Clare and Ally for being helpful. This is a great list. Shirley Sydney, Australia. ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail

    06/13/2015 03:27:12
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Robert Lucas Transcription
    2. Ditto! Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jun 2015, at 7:27 pm, ray15 via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Shirley, thanks for sharing all of the information with the list. > > I have a thought relating to the headstone inscription and his wife > "Mary (sic)". > > JUST PERHAPS, that might have been inscribed at Marg --- followed by a > small "t" to the right of the "g" and above it -- which is sometimes > called a "superscript" (contrasted with a 'subscript' where it it > written slightly below the line). > We all make mistakes when transcribing, and if the stone is a little > aged, then the printing/writing/incisions might not be so clearly > visible. > > What I am getting at therefore, is that the inscription might have > read that his wife was in fact Margt. and not Mary. > The "sic" seems like it has been sent to you by the transcriber, or by > someone who has copied the transcription for you (perhaps from a > published work), so maybe they are thereby merely pointing out that > their transcription (or their interpretation of it) gives the wife's > name as Mary, where you might have informed them that the wife was > Margaret. > > Hope that this is not 'clear as mud". > ray in oz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S.Harper" <teran81gan@bigpond.com> > > Yesterday I asked the list about buying credits from the NIdirect > website. > I had two helpful replies, one from Ally and the other from List > Admin. > Clare who has suggested I share the transcription I hav e now found > with > this list. This reads: > > Robert Lucas, Lisnamonaghan, d. 2 March, 1868, male, farmer, married > aged > 83, cause of death old age. David Pritchard present at death, > Glenadush. > > This same Robert Lucas is buried at St. Michael's, Castlecaulfield, > Donaghmore with somewhat different information from the church > register, > which I received from another source which read: > > Robert Lucas d. 4 March, 1867, Lisnamonaghan, aged 82. I thought > there was > a bit of a coincidence here and there could have been a mix-up. > > There is also a headstone showing his name and townland, aged 82, but > showing no actual date of death. The headstone reads: > > "Sacred to the memory of Robert Lucas of Lisnamonaghan Aged 82 And > his > affectionate wife Mary (sic) Lucas Aged 65 years Also James Lucas > aged 6 > years and 10 months Charles Lucas died July 5th 1908 Aged 86 years > Also his > daughters Ellen aged 23 years Eliza Ann aged 35 years Also his wife > Mary > Jane died Nov 29th 1911 aged 80 years." > > I also searched the civil registration for another Robert Lucas dying > in > 1867 aged 82, but none exists, so there is only one, as I suspected. > I know > Charles Lucas was his son and I think the headstone must have been > erected > after the death of Charles and the descendants simply got it wrong > and it's > just a case of a bad memory so many years later. I'm now on the > search for > Robert's wife Mary (sic) !! who I believe was actually Margaret > Dickson, his > first wife, which could explain the word (sic) on the headstone. > Robert > later married Ruth Pritchard in 1856. > > Anyone else out there descended from this family? > > Thanks again to Clare and Ally for being helpful. This is a great > list. > > Shirley > > Sydney, Australia. > > ------------------------- > Email sent using Optus Webmail > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/13/2015 01:50:08