Margaret Marion, could you contact me, elainemarleneforbes@yahoo.ca.  I see you are from Oshawa Ontario and researching armstrongs in Northern Ireland. I work in Oshawa and am descended from two different Armstrong families and since my other Irish families are Northern Irish, perhaps my armstrongs are too. From: "cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:00 AM Subject: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 127 You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list.  If you no longer wish to receive these messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links and instructions.  See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated web site. Today's Topics:   1. CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content (Jim McKane)   2. Re: Armstrong of Bracky (Ulster Ancestry)   3. Re: COTTON of Tyrone (Barbara Holt) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 05:48:46 -0400 From: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> Subject: [CoTyIre] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content To: Co Tyrone Ireland <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <CAHO_rcDK9t-D_EM2r=DcqZ3yVAQ+8iqTavK89nCr5eJ0JHKXcw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 *Vance* Family Notes, Co. Tyrone 1843-66 <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/vance.html> *Stack *Family Notes, Co. Tyrone, Co. Fermanagh & Dublin 1829-69 <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/stack.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:12:55 +0000 From: Ulster Ancestry <ulsterancestry@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Armstrong of Bracky To: "cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DUB114-W512091ADFCEE3280BFFA56C3A50@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In some cases people co-rented a farm with others because they could not afford the full rent or rates on their own. They shared the cost. I have come across this situation several times in different counties and parishes. best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > To: mmarion@rogers.com > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 02:04:28 +0100 > CC: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Armstrong of Bracky > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Hi Margaret, > > 1.  The church will not photocopy the records.  You need to find someone who > will visit either the church, or PRONI, which has a microfilm of the > records, and copy and digipic the records you want. > C.I. Cooley or Sixmilecross (Armagh diocese) >  Baptisms, 1836-71; marriages, 1836-46; burials, 1837- > 71; confirmations, 1837, 1840, 1843, 1846, 1866, 1870 > and 1873.  PRONI MIC583/7 >  Baptisms, 1872; marriages, 1847; burials, 1872-; vestry > minutes, 1838-. In local custody > > 2.  First, these are farms rather than fields.  But, yes, it was very common > indeed for people to share farms and yes it usually meant that they were > related and if the surnames are not the same, one possible explanation for > that is that they were married to females with the same name.  Finding the > link is never easy as the marriages usually predate the civil records. > > 3.  Tracking changes between the GV and the censuses is now much easier > since the Griffiths Valuation Revision Books went online.  You will find > them here: > http://apps.proni.gov.uk/Val12B/Search.aspx > > Have fun! > > Boyd > > http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm > > http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mmarion via > Sent: 18 June 2015 01:11 > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CoTyIre] Armstrong of Bracky > > I have just returned from an incredible week in Ireland.  In our first night > at a bed and breakfast, I met a man from Florida who was able to translate > the Griffitth's valuation map to today's map and give me a gps coordinate > for my Samuel Armstrong of Bracky.  We drove there and when it said we had > arrived, I pulled over.  As I got out of the car, a man was closing a farm > gate.  I told him I was from Canada and I was looking for the Armstrong > fields.  He told me I was looking at them.  He got his mother who's mother > and father were related to the Armstrongs of Bracky.  She says their are two > Armstrong families of Bracky, not related. > I had to share that story.  This has been my brick wall for 20 years. > I have three questions. > 1. The parish at Sixmilecross, St. Michaels, has some BMD records.  I would > like photocopies of the ones relating to Armstrong's of that parish.  Any > suggestions how I go about doing it.  Other than, looking for cheap flights > in October, which I am already doing.  I have been in contact with the > parish, but I can't ask them to copy every record pertaining to an > Armstrong, which is what I want to do.  Actually I would like a copy of > their records, up to 1910.  Would they photocopy them for me, at a price? > Any suggestions? > 2. And in the Griffith's valuation, the Armstrongs of Bracky all seem to > have fields adjacent to each other.  And they even share a field with Thomas > Fields and Jim Fulton.  Would Thomas Fields and Jim Fulton, be related.  For > example, married to a female Armstrong?  Was this common to share a field? > 3. I have started family files for the Armstrongs of Bracky.  I have tracked > the families in the 1901 census and the 1911.  Now I am trying to bring them > backwards to the 1860 Griffith's.  Any suggestions? > Margaret Marion > Oshawa, Ontario, Canada > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                         ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:56:10 +1200 From: Barbara Holt <BHHolt@xtra.co.nz> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTTON of Tyrone To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <55834C8A.7020804@xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Thank you very much, Len Swindley, for your recent email to this list about escaped convict Patrick Cotton of Tyrone.  I am descended from a James Cotton of Tyrone who joined the British Army in the late 1700's. His physical description there is  very similar to the one of Patrick you found. So I am assuming the latter is a relation of mine. I will enjoy putting him in my family history now and keeping a look-out for any descendants of his in Australia.  I, and members of a Cotton family in New Zealand from Derry,  believe we are descendants of Huguenot soldiers named Cottin who settled in Ireland  in the 1690's. If so,  we seem to have kept up our fighting spirit, don't we? Bartbara Holt (in New Zealand). ------------------------------ To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. 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