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    1. Re: [CoTyIre] County Tyrone schools & their patrons
    2. Len Swindley via
    3. Hello Holly, The page you refer to is a bit of a problem; it is not dated, and neither are the source nor the name of the submitter quoted. This is clearly a partial list only as there are many schools (National and parochial) recorded in Tyrone parishes in the Ordnance Survey Memoirs of the 1820s. Patrons were, generally, rectors of the Established Church and/ or benevolent landlords. There were also Dublin-based charitable organisations involved in the education of children of the labouring classes. Liphaven is not recorded as a town, village or townland in Co. Tyrone. Perhaps you may wish to share with the List the name of your emigrant forebear; his father may be recorded in the tithe applotment books of the 1820s-30s. Trust this is useful, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 16:47:57 -0600 > Subject: [CoTyIre] County Tyrone schools & their patrons > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Question about this list on the County Tyrone page... from what year is the > list and what is the source? Were the patrons living in IRE or were some > schools sponsored by someone who had emigrated? How would one go about > finding out more about a certain school? I ask, as there is name listed > that might be an ancestor of mine... and his Irish origins have proven to be > rather elusive. He immigrated to the US in 1830 at the age of 20, arriving > apparently by himself in Baltimore, and his obituary states that he was born > in the "town of Liphaven, county of Tyrone, Ireland". > (cotyroneireland.com/schools/Schools-Patron.html) > > Holly > SW CO > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/03/2015 10:32:37
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] County Tyrone schools & their patrons
    2. ray15 via
    3. Hello Holly. Following on from Len’s posting below, from that same list, I note that FOUR school names start with “Lis … “. They are: Lisbane Lisnagleer Lisnacloon Liskinboey I am wondering if the surname which you are interested in, might be from Lisbane, perhaps. I am guessing at this location above, from the following: Very frequently we all make mistakes in reading handwriting. Especially when it is about somewhere or something which we are not too familiar with. When I look at your name of Liphaven, and also look at Lisbane, and then try to visualise how Lisbane might have been interpreted as Liphaven, I can ‘see’ the possibility. That is, the way that the S in Lisbane was written, as well as the letter next to it: B, with possibly a slight ‘tail’ on the running-writing of the B, making the S before it look perhaps like a P and the B looking like an H. Similarly with the N in Lisbane, it is very easy to see how that N could be ‘seen’ a V. Regarding the N at the end of your word Liphaven, I could also visualise how tne E in Lisbane had a flourish or ‘tail’ on it, perhaps looking like another letter which was interpreted as an N. BUT, please do follow Len’s advice in posting to this list the surname/s which you are searching for in Tyrone. In case you have not yet been made aware of it, many of us will then use that surname which you provide, to follow a method which Boyd Gray outlines in his free online guide to Irish genealogy — which he calls “triangulation”. You could try that yourself, following his instructions on how to do so, and see if that helps you. Here is a URL to Boyd’s guide: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/genbooklet.pdf It is also on our CTI website, but I couldn’t find it on there. Nevertheless, I did find the wonderful ‘how to’ videos on there which Boyd Gray also kindly makes available to us. They are at this URL: http://cotyroneireland.com/videos/monreagh.html HTH. ray in oz ============================================== On 3 Oct 2015, at 4:32 pm, Len Swindley via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Holly, The page you refer to is a bit of a problem; it is not dated, and neither are the source nor the name of the submitter quoted. This is clearly a partial list only as there are many schools (National and parochial) recorded in Tyrone parishes in the Ordnance Survey Memoirs of the 1820s. Patrons were, generally, rectors of the Established Church and/ or benevolent landlords. There were also Dublin-based charitable organisations involved in the education of children of the labouring classes. Liphaven is not recorded as a town, village or townland in Co. Tyrone. Perhaps you may wish to share with the List the name of your emigrant forebear; his father may be recorded in the tithe applotment books of the 1820s-30s. Trust this is useful, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia ============================================ > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 16:47:57 -0600 > Subject: [CoTyIre] County Tyrone schools & their patrons > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Question about this list on the County Tyrone page... from what year is the > list and what is the source? Were the patrons living in IRE or were some > schools sponsored by someone who had emigrated? How would one go about > finding out more about a certain school? I ask, as there is name listed > that might be an ancestor of mine... and his Irish origins have proven to be > rather elusive. He immigrated to the US in 1830 at the age of 20, arriving > apparently by himself in Baltimore, and his obituary states that he was born > in the "town of Liphaven, county of Tyrone, Ireland". > (cotyroneireland.com/schools/Schools-Patron.html) > > Holly > SW CO > -------------

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