Hello Rob! Yes, I did see the email from Kathryn about the Kyle family and successful DNA testing. I tried to get my brother to do this (has to be a male descendant) but he declined. My son could do it but I don't know if that is too far removed or not. The Joseph Kyle mentioned in the email could have been related, and certainly predates any family in Ireland that I know about, but my direct line of Joseph Kyle's all stayed in Ireland until my grandfather Joseph who came to Philadelphia in 1905. Thanks, Trudy Kyle Barbisan _____ From: Rob [mailto:robertdoragh@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:59 AM To: Trudy L Barbisan Subject: RE: [CoTyIre] naming practices Hello again Trudy, Did you notice this email from a couple of weeks ago? http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/cotyroneireland/2008-09/122091 0657 Rob Doragh Liverpool UK barbisantl@qwest.net Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 Subject: naming practices I hope that I am using the correct address, I have not been in touch in a while. So far I have been able to determine that my grandfather, b Bancran 1881 was Joseph Kyle, and his father was Joseph Kyle b 1846 Bancran and HIS father was Joseph Kyle b abt 1818 also in Bancran as far as we know. That was the location of the family farm. With all of these Josephs it is hard to determine any sibling's names or find clues to them and I am hoping that someone can help. Trudy Kyle Barbisan Portland, Oregon _____ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone Try it <http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354028/direct/01/> Now