I hope that I am using the correct address, I have not been in touch in a while. I have a question about naming practices in Ireland, in particular about the boy children. My grandfather came from a long line of Joseph Kyle's. None have middle names or initials that I can find. I know that the first boy child is named after the father's father, then the second after the mother's father, and the third after the father himself. What happens when the father and the father's father (and those before them) all have the same name? Do they generally go to naming the 3rd son after the father's oldest brother, or does the father pick a family name.favorite or prominent member of the family.to replace his own name? Would the same apply to the female line if the mother and her mother have the same name? So far I have been able to determine that my grandfather, born in Bancran Co. Tyrone in 1881 was Joseph Kyle, and his father was Joseph Kyle born in 1846 in Bancran and HIS father was Joseph Kyle born about 1818 also in Bancran as far as we know. That was the location of the family farm. With all of these Josephs it is hard to determine any sibling's names or find clues to them and I am hoping that someone can help. Thanks, Trudy Kyle Barbisan Portland, Oregon * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I support the Bubel/Aiken Foundation...learn more by visiting www.bubelaiken.org Clay Aiken, UNICEF Ambassador, field notes: http://fieldnotes.unicefusa.org/2008/07/somalia_keep_spreading_the_wor.html Clay's new album "On My Way Here" in stores now.