Thank you Janet - unfortunately John Furlong died in 1854, Jane Jones Furlong in 1885, and Charles Jones in 1867. But I did use this website for marriage license request, thank you anyway for trying to help. This list is full of kind helpers! Jill On 12/1/08, Janet Kinsella <janetkinsella@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry, > i forgot to say that you can order copies from the site i mentioned. > >> From: janetkinsella@hotmail.com >> To: jillmarie.wilson@gmail.com >> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:50:27 -0700 >> CC: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, >> Ireland. >> >> >> Hi, If He died after about 1899 in Illinois, his death certificate asks >> for Birthplace and for Mother and Father's names and birthplace, there is >> an index at www.cyberdriveillinois.com, under departments and then IL >> State archives, and then databases. Marriage licenses in Illinois don't >> usually have the type of info you are looking for, so I usually look at >> the death info first. The death cret also lists burial place and funeral >> home, which are sometimes good info sources. >> Good Luck, >> Janet, >> >> > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:18:56 -0800 >> > From: jillmarie.wilson@gmail.com >> > To: cagthe@gmail.com >> > CC: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, >> > Ireland. >> > >> > Thank you so much for the time you spent on researching this. >> > >> > You are correct - I am in the US and I don't know anything about Ireland >> > except the bits I have read about the History of the Famines, and some >> > little bits here and there. Thank you for the "Parish" explanation. >> > >> > I really didn't have any good leads as to where John Furlong originated >> > from >> > but I did come across some ship manefests mentioning John Furlong and >> > Jane >> > as well but I couldn't say with any certainty that any of them were the >> > correct individuals. I've taken another look at my files and there are >> > just >> > too many John Furlongs to be certain about any of them. >> > >> > I will try to obtain a copy of their marriage certificate in Illinois, >> > USA >> > to see if it has their parents names. Would you mind if I contact you >> > again >> > if I get them? >> > >> > Thank you again, >> > Jill >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Claire K <cagthe@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Hi Jill, >> > > >> > > Welcome to the list! I'll send you what information I have, in >> > > separate >> > > emails so it doesn't get confused. FIrst up, the Furlongs. >> > > >> > > From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, IRE >> > > and >> > > Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): >> > > >> > > "Furlong. This family settled in Co. Wexford at the end of the >> > > thirteenth >> > > century and the name occurs as one of the most numerous in five >> > > baronies of >> > > that county in the 'census' of 1659. MIF. Map Wexford." >> > > >> > > MIF = for more info, see MORE IRISH FAMILIES >> > > Map Wexford = on the surname map of Wexford, "Furlong" appears in SW >> > > Wexford, near the borders of Waterford and Kilkenny >> > > >> > > Of course, just because the name is traditionally associated with >> > > Wexford >> > > does not mean that your particular Furlongs came from Wexford. I >> > > searched >> > > the members-only databases at the Ulster Historical Foundation, and >> > > see that >> > > there are 10 marriages, 7 births, and 3 deaths, all in the Antrim and >> > > Down >> > > collection of church records, so there were at least some Furlongs up >> > > north. >> > > (Not many, but some). >> > > >> > > Matheson's 1890 Distribution of Surnames shows 33 in Leinster and 3 in >> > > Munster -- and none in Ulster or Connaught -- which supports the >> > > "centered >> > > around Wexford" idea. >> > > >> > > A 1791-1829 database of Apothecary Licenses shows a James in Wexford >> > > (1828), and a Thomas and a William in Dublin (1804 and 1812, >> > > respectively). >> > > >> > > There is also a report of a John Furlong murdered in 1844 in >> > > Tipperary. >> > > >> > > There are 78 entries for Furlongs in the (all-Ireland) Index to >> > > Printed >> > > Irish Will Calendars, 1878-1900, and 42 in the (all-Ireland) Irish >> > > Will >> > > Calendars, 1858-1878. In the latter, most that indicate a location >> > > are in >> > > Waterford, some in Cork, but you'd have to see the full calendars in >> > > Dublin >> > > to find the details of these. >> > > >> > > None of this is definitive, of course, but I would probably play the >> > > odds >> > > and start looking for your Furlongs in Wexford and vicinity. >> > > >> > > I see that you have reason to think your Joneses are from Tyrone, but >> > > did >> > > you have reason to think your Furlongs were, as well? (Or was it just >> > > a >> > > case of, they married each other, so may have been from the same place >> > > in >> > > Ireland?) Assuming you don't have any stronger reason to think they >> > > were >> > > from Tyrone, I'd stick with my suggestion of starting at the other end >> > > of >> > > the country. >> > > >> > > Have you found passenger lists for either your Furlong or your >> > > Joneses? >> > > The port at which they embarked could be further circumstantial >> > > evidence of >> > > where they originated. >> > > >> > > Hope that helps. >> > > >> > > Claire K. >> > > CTI List Admin. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Jill Wilson wrote: >> > > >> > > Subject: Irish Surname Research: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, >> > >> Ireland. >> > >> Hello All, >> > >> >> > >> My name is Jill Wilson, a first time poster... wondering if anyone >> > >> recognizes Furlong or Jones surnames? Researching my Irish ancestors >> > >> and >> > >> making a trip to Ireland in Feb - Mar 2009. Need help locating names >> > >> of >> > >> John Furlong's parents, and the Jone's parents, their homesteads, or >> > >> headstones, anything... Ideas or research recommendations would be >> > >> very >> > >> much appreciated. >> > >> >> > >> John Furlong - born abt 1814 in Ireland. Died in 1854 Johnson >> > >> County, >> > >> Iowa >> > >> City, Iowa, USA. He Married Jane Jones Aug 1, 1839 in Sagamon, >> > >> Illinois, >> > >> USA. And settled in Iowa, USA in early 1840's. >> > >> >> > >> Jane Jones (Furlong) - wife of John Furlong. Born abt 1820 (possibly >> > >> 1810) >> > >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died July 7, 1885 York Township, Iowa >> > >> County, >> > >> Iowa, >> > >> USA. She was likely a "Native of the Parish of Cappagh" like her >> > >> brother >> > >> (I >> > >> assume this must means she was a member of the Parish?) >> > >> >> > >> Charles Jones, brother to Jane, born abt 1797 a Native of Parish of >> > >> Cappagh, >> > >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died Nov 12, 1867 in Iowa County, Iowa, USA. >> > >> >> > >> Thank you to anyone kind enough to respond, >> > >> Jill Wilson >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jill Wilson >> > >> > ------------- >> > Our community web-site: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Proud to be a PC? Show the world. 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I am trying to identify the origins in Co. Tyrone of: James Cooper, b. 1818 in Tyrone; died 1903 in Jefferson Co., Pa. USA James Cooper, b. 1786 in Tyrone; died 1862 in Butler Co., Pa. USA Thank you in advance for any leads or suggestions. James P. Murphy Princeton, NJ 08542 USA jpmurphy@jpmurphy.com Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi James, The surname alone is not much help, I'm afraid. Can you tell us about when they left Ireland, so we can figure out which records might help pinpoint possible locations? Here's the surname info, just FYI: From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, Ire. and Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): "Cooper. This English occupational name has been prominent among the Anglo-Irish gentry since mid-seventeenth century in four counties, particularly Co. Sligo. Bibl." Bibl = See BIBLIOGRAPHY OF IRISH FAMILY HISTORY Sorry it's not more helpful. Claire K seekay@comcast.net On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:25 PM, James P. Murphy wrote: > I am trying to identify the origins in Co. Tyrone of: > > James Cooper, b. 1818 in Tyrone; died 1903 in Jefferson Co., Pa. USA > James Cooper, b. 1786 in Tyrone; died 1862 in Butler Co., Pa. USA > > Thank you in advance for any leads or suggestions. > > James P. Murphy > Princeton, NJ 08542 USA > jpmurphy@jpmurphy.com >