Ray and Clare, Thanks so much for the suggestions. I did contact Harry Connors, but as he has had some computer problems, he couldn't find the contact info for Guy Gregory. I thought I might post on the Gregory list in hopes of finding him. The headstone info and obit info are the same, perhaps provided by the same person. History can sure be a mystery. I believe I will start with the "Ballynasollus" leads, as I believe the Griffiths' to have been after Eliza and her family left Tyrone. Does that make sense? Any suggestions as to how best to proceed will be gratefully accepted. Janet > From: ray15@optusnet.com.au > To: janetkinsella@hotmail.com; cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] FW: Help w/placename - spelling vs pronunciation GREGORY in Tyrone > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:37:01 +1000 > > Hello Janet. > > Have you obtained these extracts from Griffiths for GREGORY in Tyrone? from > Failte Romhat at: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > (where I merely put GREGORY in the surname field, and selected Tyrone as the > county) > (You might find other helpful results by searching in ALL locations and not > limitiing it to Tyrone) > > Surname First Name Townland Parish County > Gregory William Knockonny Errigal Keerogue Tyrone > Gregory James Killymorgan Errigal Keerogue Tyrone > Gregory Edward Scarvagherin Ardstraw Tyrone > > > They might provide you with a starting point, by providing the two parishes > mentioned. > > > NEXT: I expect that you are familiar with this obituary for your ancestress: > http://www.connorshistory.com/Beaton/EGBMObituary.html > > Have you been in contact with the Guy GREGORY who provided that to the site? > I ask, because with his being a descendant in the male line, he may have > already done a lot of basic research, and might already have details about > the location in Tyrone for you. > > And don't forget that the informant for the obituary might have had ONE of > the two locational facts "wrong". > For example if they were taking that information from some handwritten > document, they might have made a transcription error themselves. > > NEXT: Ballinsloe is very close in spelling to Ballinasloe -- but that is > located in County Galway; or so my google searches seem to indicate. > > FINALLY, have you tried to search in www.seanruad.com , looking just for a > townland starting with the letter B in the county of Tyrone? > There are several results there which MIGHT, with different spelling or > pronunciation transcritpions come close in appearance to your Ballinsloe. > For example: > > Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province > > Balix Lower 537 Tyrone Strabane Lower Donaghedy Gortin Ulster > > Ballaghalare 213 Tyrone Strabane Lower Donaghedy Strabane Ulster > > Ballee 540 Tyrone Strabane Lower Leckpatrick Strabane Ulster > > Ballyblagh 205 Tyrone Dungannon Upper Ballyclog Cookstown Ulster > > Ballyfolliard 392 Tyrone Strabane Lower Ardstraw Castlederg Ulster > > Ballynaloan 140 Tyrone Strabane Lower Ardstraw Castlederg Ulster > > Ballynasollus 925 Tyrone Strabane Upper Bodoney Upper Gortin Ulster > Ballynasollus 261 Tyrone Dungannon Upper Derryloran Cookstown Ulster > Ballynasollus 1,076 Tyrone Dungannon Upper Kildress Cookstown Ulster > > > HTH. > Ray in Oz > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Hello, > > Long time lurker, first time poster. My gggrandmother's cemetery record > > shows her as born 15AUG 1828, "Ballinsloe", CountyTyrone, Ireland. Her > > name was Elizabeth (Eliza) Gregory. (She may have been born in 1828) She > > came to Galena, Illinois, USA in 1843, to join a brother and sister > > already here - Ellen and James. Later census records show an Ann and a > > Hannah Gregory in Ellen's household, but do not give a relationship. > > Eliza was Roman Catholic, and was most likely illiterate. The place names > > would probably have been supplied by her daughter(s), and would likely > > have been a phonetic spelling representation of what they may have heard. > > My first question to the List is - Is anyone aware of a place that would > > sound like Ballinsole but perhaps have a different spelling? > > Thank You for your help, > > Janet > _________________________________________________________________ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008

Janet, If your people left before the Primary Valuation (a.k.a. Griffith's) you may want to check the Tithe Apploment Books. A better starting point - which is based upon both the records mentioned is the 'Householders Index' for Co. Tyrone. Many libraries with good genealogical collections have this secondary source. From, Clare L. - - - - -Some of my Co Tyrone names: Devlin, McAleer, Donnelly, McCullagh, McCusker, McCrory

Hello Once more, Janet. 1. Yes, posting on the GREGORY list, sounds like a great idea; not only for flushing out Guy GREGORY; but for your GREGORY research in general. 2. Regarding the Griffiths, and its possibly being after Eliza and her family left Tyrone; my belief is that usually when even most of the family emigrated, they will have left behind, if not at least one older sibling, more distant family members like aunts/uncles/cousins. etc. 3. Given that the Griffiths gives GREGORY in Ardstraw parish; and that Ballynaloan is in Ardstraw,and might look very much like Ballinsloe in running writing, I'd be tempted to give that at try. Hopefully there will be others on this list who have personal experience with the relevant parishes and townlands, who might be able to give you more specific guidance than my mere generalities. Good Luck. Ray in oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Kinsella" <janetkinsella@hotmail.com> To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Ray and Clare, > Thanks so much for the suggestions. I did contact Harry Connors, but as he has had some computer problems, he couldn't find the contact info for Guy Gregory. I thought I might post on the Gregory list in hopes of finding him. ... I believe I will start with the "Ballynasollus" leads, as I believe the Griffiths' to have been after Eliza and her family left Tyrone. > Does that make sense? > Any suggestions as to how best to proceed will be gratefully accepted. > Janet > > >> From: ray15@optusnet.com.au >> Have you obtained these extracts from Griffiths for GREGORY in Tyrone?: >> http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php >> Surname First Name Townland Parish County >> Gregory William Knockonny Errigal Keerogue Tyrone >> Gregory James Killymorgan Errigal Keerogue Tyrone >> Gregory Edward Scarvagherin Ardstraw Tyrone >> NEXT: I expect that you are familiar with this obituary for your >> ancestress: >> http://www.connorshistory.com/Beaton/EGBMObituary.html >> >> Have you been in contact with the Guy GREGORY who provided that to the >> site? >> FINALLY, have you tried to search in www.seanruad.com , looking just for >> a >> townland starting with the letter B in the county of Tyrone? >> For example: Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Balix Lower 537 Tyrone Strabane Lower Donaghedy Gortin Ulster Ballaghalare 213 Tyrone Strabane Lower Donaghedy Strabane Ulster Ballee 540 Tyrone Strabane Lower Leckpatrick Strabane Ulster Ballyblagh 205 Tyrone Dungannon Upper Ballyclog Cookstown Ulster Ballyfolliard 392 Tyrone Strabane Lower Ardstraw Castlederg Ulster Ballynaloan 140 Tyrone Strabane Lower Ardstraw Castlederg Ulster Ballynasollus 925 Tyrone Strabane Upper Bodoney Upper Gortin Ulster Ballynasollus 261 Tyrone Dungannon Upper Derryloran Cookstown Ulster Ballynasollus 1,076 Tyrone Dungannon Upper Kildress Cookstown Ulster