Interesting article. The Irish immigrants that were hired by Mr. Phillip Duffy were indeed brought in by him from the slums Donegal, Tyrone and Derry. It's unfortunate that they died of cholera which was picked up from the immigrant ships they sailed on, just as fifty thousand others did of all faiths. Watson's comments that some were shot, is a bating comment to feed his own prejudices. Those immigrants were in the care and custody of Duffy's road crew, fellow RC Irish. If anyone did the shooting, then it would have been by Duffy's crew themselves, and no one else. It is well known that of this group only some had cholera and they were quarantined. Duffy didn't have the money to provide the proper care, so they were literally disposed of, quitely and quickly. It was as simple as that. As for the "mass graves" comments by the "Watson brothers", that was the thing to do all across Europe and for immigrnats from Europe in America who had the "plaque". Any attempt to read into these events is a waste of time in the 21st century. Even in Canada there are many "mass graves" on the islands in the Gulf of St. Lawrence for those coming off the "plague ships". Thowing off comments like "being shot" is irresponsible at best, especially when their fellow Irish did the deed themselves. I would simply leave the remains were they are, rather than creating a parade all the way back to 'Northern Ireland" for the benefit of the IRA and the Seinn Fein, who are equally akin to shooting people in the back. Eric from Derry Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:28 AM Subject: [CoTyIre] Irish Graves Found in Pennsylvania Interesting article about a mass grave of 57 Irishmen from Tyrone, Derry, and Donegal who died in August 1832 of cholera -- and some, possibly by gunshot -- soon after arriving in the US (outside Philadelphia). These men were railroad workers who died at the infamous Duffy's Cut. Researchers hope to identify the remains via DNA and maybe repatriate the bones. http://apnews.excite.com/article/20090325/D974R1E00.html Claire K seekay@comcast.net

I would agree with you Eric about the futility of reading motives into these events or giving a great deal of credence to the rumors. Even Mozart's body was unceremoniously dropped into a mass grave and doused with lye. The fear of infection during times of plague was a dreadful thing, and people coped as best they could. Loretta Layman -----Original Message----- From: donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:donegaleire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of E Macklin Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:35 AM To: CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com; NIR-TYRONE@rootsweb.com Cc: donegaleire@rootsweb.com Subject: [DONEGALEIRE] Irish Graves Found in Pennsylvania Interesting article. The Irish immigrants that were hired by Mr. Phillip Duffy were indeed brought in by him from the slums Donegal, Tyrone and Derry. It's unfortunate that they died of cholera which was picked up from the immigrant ships they sailed on, just as fifty thousand others did of all faiths. Watson's comments that some were shot, is a bating comment to feed his own prejudices. Those immigrants were in the care and custody of Duffy's road crew, fellow RC Irish. If anyone did the shooting, then it would have been by Duffy's crew themselves, and no one else. It is well known that of this group only some had cholera and they were quarantined. Duffy didn't have the money to provide the proper care, so they were literally disposed of, quitely and quickly. It was as simple as that. As for the "mass graves" comments by the "Watson brothers", that was the thing to do all across Europe and for immigrnats from Europe in America who had the "plaque". Any attempt to read into these events is a waste of time in the 21st century. Even in Canada there are many "mass graves" on the islands in the Gulf of St. Lawrence for those coming off the "plague ships". Thowing off comments like "being shot" is irresponsible at best, especially when their fellow Irish did the deed themselves. I would simply leave the remains were they are, rather than creating a parade all the way back to 'Northern Ireland" for the benefit of the IRA and the Seinn Fein, who are equally akin to shooting people in the back. Eric from Derry

E Macklin writes: "Thowing off comments like "being shot" is irresponsible at best, especially when their fellow Irish did the deed themselves. I would simply leave the remains were they are . . . " Especially? This is inflammatory and out of place in this forum (CoTyroneIreland). On what basis does the identity of a murderer alter the effect on the victim? If the writer feels he knows who "did the deed," perhaps he could share the evidence with those conducting the investigation. There is an undercurrent of hatred ("from the slums of Donegal," "didn't have the money . . . ") in this post that I find revolting. Isn't it a bit early in the investigation (two of potentially 57 bodies exhumed) to write so dismissively? Allow the truth to unfold. If one of the dead young men was a son of E Macklin, would it be alright to "leave the remains where they are" -- a matter of inches below the surface along an active railway three thousand miles from home? Most of us are searching for ancestors. This Duffy's Cut case is evidence that happens to be wrapped in tragedy. Let's keep the focus where it belongs. A website of possible interest is www.duffyscutproject.com. James P. Murphy Princeton, N.J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Macklin" <emacklin@rogers.com> To: <CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com>; <NIR-TYRONE@rootsweb.com> Cc: <donegaleire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: [CoTyIre] Irish Graves Found in Pennsylvania > Interesting article. The Irish immigrants that were hired by Mr. Phillip > Duffy > were indeed brought in by him from the slums Donegal, Tyrone and Derry. > It's unfortunate that they died of cholera which was picked up from the > immigrant ships they sailed on, just as fifty thousand others did of all > faiths. > Watson's comments that some were shot, is a bating comment to feed his > own prejudices. Those immigrants were in the care and custody of Duffy's > road crew, fellow RC Irish. If anyone did the shooting, then it would have > been by Duffy's crew themselves, and no one else. It is well known that > of this group only some had cholera and they were quarantined. Duffy > didn't > have the money to provide the proper care, so they were literally disposed > of, > quitely and quickly. It was as simple as that. > As for the "mass graves" comments by the "Watson brothers", that was the > thing to do all across Europe and for immigrnats from Europe in America > who > had the "plaque". Any attempt to read into these events is a waste of time > in the > 21st century. Even in Canada there are many "mass graves" on the islands > in > the > Gulf of St. Lawrence for those coming off the "plague ships". Thowing off > comments > like "being shot" is irresponsible at best, especially when their fellow > Irish did the > deed themselves. I would simply leave the remains were they are, rather > than > creating a parade all the way back to 'Northern Ireland" for the benefit > of > the > IRA and the Seinn Fein, who are equally akin to shooting people in the > back. > > Eric from Derry > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:28 AM > Subject: [CoTyIre] Irish Graves Found in Pennsylvania > > > Interesting article about a mass grave of 57 Irishmen from Tyrone, > Derry, and Donegal who died in August 1832 of cholera -- and some, > possibly by gunshot -- soon after arriving in the US (outside > Philadelphia). These men were railroad workers who died at the > infamous Duffy's Cut. Researchers hope to identify the remains via > DNA and maybe repatriate the bones. > http://apnews.excite.com/article/20090325/D974R1E00.html > > Claire K > seekay@comcast.net > > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone have access to the book RJ Hunter (ed): The Strabane Barony during the Ulster Plantation (Derry, 1982). If so would you be so kind as to do lookups? Thank you Roy