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    1. [CoTyIre] Patrick Skiffington aka The Scarlet Pimpernel!
    2. Maisie Egger
    3. Re the following message from you, Theresa: ------------------- Hi again Maisie I was thinking!! since you've spent such a long time looking for Patrick Skeffington to no avail, it maybe would be worth your while checking out if parish records actually exist for the years you are searching. Many parishes didn't have records going back to early 1800s. If you go to the Proni website www.proni.gov.uk and click on the link for online guides and indexes, it will bring up in its list documents that show the Church of Ireland, Presbyterian and Roman Catholic parish records it has microfilmed for the whole of Ulster. It may well be that no records exist and you just have to accept that. However, there are still Skeffingtons in Co Tyrone, all mainly around the Dungannon area. Here's the list from the telephone directory: E SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 406960 Reaskmore Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1QF J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 4612 8 Glebe Pk, Dungannon, BT70 3PS J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 9028 1282 127 Great Northern St, Belfast, BT9 7FL M SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 7085 27 Lisgallon Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1SW Martin J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 8691 20 Knockmoy Pk, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4LU N SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 0566 136 Annagher Rd, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4NE O SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 61286 Dernmore Dv, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4SL P SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 78774 Willow Clo, Dungannon, BT70 1XF R SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 929888A Reaskmore Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1QF S SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 5209229 Carnteel Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1PG S SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 978212 Clonmeen Cotts, Dungannon, BT71 5QN Sean SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8776 7680 10 Speers Pl, Dungannon, BT70 1TQ It may well be that writing to them might lead to someone connected to your ancestors. If you do decide to write, it's a good idea to enclose your email address. Many people might not bother writing a letter back, but there will be some who will be quite happy to send an email. Should you decide to write then may I offer you the best of luck in finding a connection. Theresa ------------------ Thanks again, Theresa, for your further suggestions. I enrolled the help of a fellow from Irish World to check the church records for Donaghmore, and then when there weren't any for there, he checked Dungannon, but came up empty-handed. More money down the drain! As I noted before, I even wrote to the Diocese in Armagh...not answer was the loud reply, as my mother used to crack! We even paid a visit to Donaghmore one time, checked out the Skiffington name with the shop people in the little shops, and talked to an ex-policeman who knew someone by the name of Skiffongton ...in 1941... said deadpan! We thought he was being unwittingly humorous. The ex-policeman came from the area and according to him there were no Skiffingtons left there. Someone else remarked that there were two bachelor brothers by this name, but they, too, were long since gone. Obviously there had to have been some Skiffingtons in Donaghmore at one point, but whether related to Patrick remains a puzzle. We went into the old Catholic cemetery across the street from the canon's office (he had no records prior to 1877) to check to see if there were any old headstones bearing the Skiffington name, but didn't have time to go through the whole place. I have a feeling that Patrick and his wife Bridget (Kelly) may not have come from enough money for their forebears to afford a headstone. As I recall, Donaghmore is a fairly small community, and when I saw the name Skiffington on an "offical" log that looked like a list of renters in the Heritage Museum, I wrote to them no fewer than three times over the years to check up on this, but received no response. When we were there, the museum was wide open, but those in charge had gone to lunch presumably. I now believe that this museum is in Dungannon under a different name. If memory serves me right, I may even have tried to contact them in Dungannon, but again received no reply. I have always offered to pay any costs or make a donation for any extra effort, but that doesn't seem to be incentive enough. It's frustrating, therefore, to try to do business long distance. A newly discovered "far out" cousin whose forebear came from Co. Antrim and who was a brother to mine, checked out Patrick Skiffington's name at PRONI in Belfast and came up blank. Main problem is that he appears to have been born too early, maybe around 1815, and his wife Bridget Kelly 1814. I have no idea at all where she came from in Ireland. Now, your idea to write to the names you have listed bears some merit, because one year when I was home (Glasgow, Scotland) I went through every single kind of directory I could find and wrote down everyone listed with my maiden surname. It isn't a common name at all, so after writing to all 78 I'd found in the whole of the U.K., I heard from two who were actually related to me, their Scottish forebears having gone to England. This was before so many of us had personal computers, of course. I'll certainly follow up on your suggestion, for nothing ventured nothing gained. Note: I should add that the names is spelled variously: Skeffington, Skiffington, Skevington, Skivington, to compound the problem even more in trying to find Patrick! Thank you. Maisie

    02/06/2009 11:38:10
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Patrick Skiffington aka The Scarlet Pimpernel!
    2. Sharon Smith
    3. I found this Patrick, maybe it is something to look at. Date of Death 3 Jan 1896 Year of Probate 1896 Name Patrick Skiffington County Tyrone Residence Eskragh> From: campsiehills@sbcglobal.net> To: CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com; forsyththeresa@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:38:10 -0800> Subject: [CoTyIre] Patrick Skiffington aka The Scarlet Pimpernel!> > Re the following message from you, Theresa:> -------------------> Hi again Maisie> > I was thinking!! since you've spent such a long time looking for Patrick Skeffington to no avail, it maybe would be worth your while checking out if parish records actually exist for the years you are searching. Many parishes didn't have records going back to early 1800s. If you go to the Proni website www.proni.gov.uk and click on the link for online guides and indexes, it will bring up in its list documents that show the Church of Ireland, Presbyterian and Roman Catholic parish records it has microfilmed for the whole of Ulster. It may well be that no records exist and you just have to accept that.> > However, there are still Skeffingtons in Co Tyrone, all mainly around the Dungannon area. Here's the list from the telephone directory: > > E SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 406960 Reaskmore Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1QF J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 4612 8 Glebe Pk, Dungannon, BT70 3PS> J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 9028 1282 127 Great Northern St, Belfast, BT9 7FL> M SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 7085 27 Lisgallon Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1SW> Martin J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 8691 20 Knockmoy Pk, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4LU > N SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 0566 136 Annagher Rd, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4NE> O SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 61286 Dernmore Dv, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4SL> P SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 78774 Willow Clo, Dungannon, BT70 1XF> R SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 929888A Reaskmore Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1QF> S SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 5209229 Carnteel Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1PG> S SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 978212 Clonmeen Cotts, Dungannon, BT71 5QN> Sean SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8776 7680 10 Speers Pl, Dungannon, BT70 1TQ> > It may well be that writing to them might lead to someone connected to your ancestors. If you do decide to write, it's a good idea to enclose your email address. Many people might not bother writing a letter back, but there will be some who will be quite happy to send an email. Should you decide to write then may I offer you the best of luck in finding a connection.> > Theresa> ------------------> > Thanks again, Theresa, for your further suggestions.> > I enrolled the help of a fellow from Irish World to check the church records for Donaghmore, and then when there weren't any for there, he checked Dungannon, but came up empty-handed. More money down the drain!> > As I noted before, I even wrote to the Diocese in Armagh...not answer was the loud reply, as my mother used to crack!> > We even paid a visit to Donaghmore one time, checked out the Skiffington name with the shop people in the little shops, and talked to an ex-policeman who knew someone by the name of Skiffongton ...in 1941... said deadpan! We thought he was being unwittingly humorous. The ex-policeman came from the area and according to him there were no Skiffingtons left there. Someone else remarked that there were two bachelor brothers by this name, but they, too, were long since gone. Obviously there had to have been some Skiffingtons in Donaghmore at one point, but whether related to Patrick remains a puzzle.> > We went into the old Catholic cemetery across the street from the canon's office (he had no records prior to 1877) to check to see if there were any old headstones bearing the Skiffington name, but didn't have time to go through the whole place. I have a feeling that Patrick and his wife Bridget (Kelly) may not have come from enough money for their forebears to afford a headstone. > > As I recall, Donaghmore is a fairly small community, and when I saw the name Skiffington on an "offical" log that looked like a list of renters in the Heritage Museum, I wrote to them no fewer than three times over the years to check up on this, but received no response. When we were there, the museum was wide open, but those in charge had gone to lunch presumably. I now believe that this museum is in Dungannon under a different name. If memory serves me right, I may even have tried to contact them in Dungannon, but again received no reply.> > I have always offered to pay any costs or make a donation for any extra effort, but that doesn't seem to be incentive enough. It's frustrating, therefore, to try to do business long distance.> > A newly discovered "far out" cousin whose forebear came from Co. Antrim and who was a brother to mine, checked out Patrick Skiffington's name at PRONI in Belfast and came up blank. Main problem is that he appears to have been born too early, maybe around 1815, and his wife Bridget Kelly 1814. I have no idea at all where she came from in Ireland.> > Now, your idea to write to the names you have listed bears some merit, because one year when I was home (Glasgow, Scotland) I went through every single kind of directory I could find and wrote down everyone listed with my maiden surname. It isn't a common name at all, so after writing to all 78 I'd found in the whole of the U.K., I heard from two who were actually related to me, their Scottish forebears having gone to England. This was before so many of us had personal computers, of course.> > I'll certainly follow up on your suggestion, for nothing ventured nothing gained.> > Note: I should add that the names is spelled variously: Skeffington, Skiffington, Skevington, Skivington, to compound the problem even more in trying to find Patrick!> > Thank you.> > Maisie> > > -------------> Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Liveā„¢: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009

    02/06/2009 03:05:06