Thank you for all the replies I have received. You are a wonderful group - I'm so glad I found you. Ray: Are any of the resources which you mentioned on-line? To the group: Irish Family History Foundation question I have a question about using the index. I found a promising marriage of an Arthur Connolly, but I can't find a corresponding marriage on the same date in the same place to a Sarah McLoughlin. How do those records work? If I searched for a marriage and searched under first the groom's name and then the bride's name, would the indexes point me towards the same marriage record? Thanks again, Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada
Hello again Joan. It is nice to read that others are also sending you information. What a pity though that they are doing it privately and not sharing it with the list, as we all pick up little snippets from such postings. (n.b.: If one hits REPLY TO ALL in response to a posting on this list, their message will go to the list as well as to the questioner/lister. Conversely, merely hitting on REPLY will send it back as a private message to that enquirer.) Now, Joan, you asked if any of those resources which Sean Rooney mentioned in his listings are online. My basic answer is that GENERALLY they are NOT online. The one huge exception is the Griffith's Primary Valuation, which has recently been placed online FREE for all of us to use, courtesy of the wonderful Irish, and the wonderful Canadians who provided the funding for it. Here is the URL for it: http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php Then, once you have searched there for your people, and think that it doesn't really tell you very much; I'd suggest that you sit down and read all 13 pages of this article; which will open up possibilities galore: http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF I said above that "generally" the resources are not online except for Griffith's; however there are thousands of sharing/caring genealogists around the world who are spending a lot of their time TRANSCRIBING many relevant records, and then making them FREELY available on the web for all of us. Some are posted to personal web-sites. Many others are posted to more public sites. For example, at the foot of almost every posting to this list, you should find an 'advertisement' for THIS LIST's own web-site; which is constantly being added to, as listers transcribe more records and share them with us. For ease of access to it for you, here is the URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland Another wonderful resource which Library Ireland has kindly made freely available to all of us online, is Samuel Lewis's 1837 Topographical Dictionary of Ireland. Just look up in it any town or parish which you wish to learn more about, and hopefully it will be there. Here is the URL: http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/index.php In his posting, Sean Rooney mentions the Ordnance Surveys of Ireland. The maps for them can be purchased; but are not generally freely available online. However a wonderful New Zealander: Murray, with the help of more of those wonderful 'giving' volunteers, is slowly putting onto the net ever-increasing map details. Here is the URL to his "kiwi celts" web-site where he has placed them for us: http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html I think that if you click on his red HELP button, you will find lots of great guidance on how to use the maps. Also, talking about the Ordnance Surveys, reprints are now available for purchase of the Ordnance Survey Memoirs, which list lots of details about individual locations, frequently mentioning some people by name etc. Here is a link to some pages from the Ulster Historical Foundation, who sell them: http://www.booksireland.org.uk/index.php?ordnancesurvey And here are other details about them -- but excluding price, from an Australian distributor of them: http://www.gould.com.au/OS-Memoirs-Ireland-Series-p/uhf200.htm (you might find prices when you click on each volume from that first page -- not sure). Don't forget PRONI: The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland: http://www.proni.gov.uk/ And professional researcher Robert Williams, also provides "free pages" available to all on his web-site at Ulster Ancestry: http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ (just click on his FREE PAGES box.) (he also provides a link there to subscribe FREE to his regular newsletter; which always has fascinating snippets in it.) Joan, the list goes on and on; but I have to stop. I guess that in closing, I would urge you to ALWAYS remember GOOGLE. For any terminology or place-name which you want more information about, google will usually provide some answers for you. Additionally, Google BOOKS has an ever-increasing number of out-of-print books which they are placing online, and a search there for family surnames or place-names will often result in some 'finds'. Ooops, I almost forgot one of my most basic research tools for Irish place-names: www.seanruad.com There you can search for townlands and parishes -- as well as baronies. A most wonderful resource. Finally, I would URGE you most strongly to NEVER be hung up on what you believe to be a 'correct' spelling for placenames or surnames (or even forenames) in Ireland. As you delve into the records more and more, you will become aware that multitudinous spellings about for almost every name or place imaginable. This makes our research there so much more difficult, but oh what joy when one suddenly finds a weird spelling which is relevant to our family or place! Welcome to the most frustrating, yet extremely enjoyable world of Irish research. AND I am hoping that MANY OTHERS will find all of the holes and mistakes in what I have written here; and will write TO THE LIST with their own preferences, sources, etc. (hint, hint!!) Ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] Connolly > Thank you for all the replies I have received. You are a wonderful group - > I'm so glad I found you. > > Ray: Are any of the resources which you mentioned on-line?
Hi Everyone, Replying to all!! Don't forget the 1911 Census of Ireland which is on line at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ The 1911 Census will probably not be of much use to Joan but it's worth including on the list for completeness. Similarly the LDS vital records search, whilst not complete, are definitely worth a look and cover the period that Joan is looking for: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start I hope this helps. Regards Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Connolly > Hello again Joan. > It is nice to read that others are also sending you information. What a > pity > though that they are doing it privately and not sharing it with the list, > as > we all pick up little snippets from such postings. > (n.b.: If one hits REPLY TO ALL in response to a posting on this list, > their > message will go to the list as well as to the questioner/lister. > Conversely, merely hitting on REPLY will send it back as a private message > to that enquirer.) > > Now, Joan, you asked if any of those resources which Sean Rooney mentioned > in his listings are online. > > My basic answer is that GENERALLY they are NOT online. > > The one huge exception is the Griffith's Primary Valuation, which has > recently been placed online FREE for all of us to use, courtesy of the > wonderful Irish, and the wonderful Canadians who provided the funding for > it. Here is the URL for it: > http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php > > Then, once you have searched there for your people, and think that it > doesn't really tell you very much; I'd suggest that you sit down and read > all 13 pages of this article; which will open up possibilities galore: > http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF > > > I said above that "generally" the resources are not online except for > Griffith's; however there are thousands of sharing/caring genealogists > around the world who are spending a lot of their time TRANSCRIBING many > relevant records, and then making them FREELY available on the web for all > of us. Some are posted to personal web-sites. Many others are posted to > more public sites. For example, at the foot of almost every posting to > this > list, you should find an 'advertisement' for THIS LIST's own web-site; > which > is constantly being added to, as listers transcribe more records and share > them with us. For ease of access to it for you, here is the URL: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > Another wonderful resource which Library Ireland has kindly made freely > available to all of us online, is Samuel Lewis's 1837 Topographical > Dictionary of Ireland. Just look up in it any town or parish which you > wish > to learn more about, and hopefully it will be there. Here is the URL: > http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/index.php > > > In his posting, Sean Rooney mentions the Ordnance Surveys of Ireland. The > maps for them can be purchased; but are not generally freely available > online. > However a wonderful New Zealander: Murray, with the help of more of those > wonderful 'giving' volunteers, is slowly putting onto the net > ever-increasing map details. > Here is the URL to his "kiwi celts" web-site where he has placed them for > us: > http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html > > I think that if you click on his red HELP button, you will find lots of > great guidance on how to use the maps. > > > Also, talking about the Ordnance Surveys, reprints are now available for > purchase of the Ordnance Survey Memoirs, which list lots of details about > individual locations, frequently mentioning some people by name etc. > Here is a link to some pages from the Ulster Historical Foundation, who > sell > them: > http://www.booksireland.org.uk/index.php?ordnancesurvey > > And here are other details about them -- but excluding price, from an > Australian distributor of them: > http://www.gould.com.au/OS-Memoirs-Ireland-Series-p/uhf200.htm > (you might find prices when you click on each volume from that first > page -- > not sure). > > > Don't forget PRONI: The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland: > http://www.proni.gov.uk/ > > > And professional researcher Robert Williams, also provides "free pages" > available to all on his web-site at Ulster Ancestry: > http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ > (just click on his FREE PAGES box.) > (he also provides a link there to subscribe FREE to his regular > newsletter; > which always has fascinating snippets in it.) > > Joan, the list goes on and on; but I have to stop. > > I guess that in closing, I would urge you to ALWAYS remember GOOGLE. For > any terminology or place-name which you want more information about, > google > will usually provide some answers for you. > > Additionally, Google BOOKS has an ever-increasing number of out-of-print > books which they are placing online, and a search there for family > surnames > or place-names will often result in some 'finds'. > > Ooops, I almost forgot one of my most basic research tools for Irish > place-names: www.seanruad.com > There you can search for townlands and parishes -- as well as baronies. A > most wonderful resource. > > Finally, I would URGE you most strongly to NEVER be hung up on what you > believe to be a 'correct' spelling for placenames or surnames (or even > forenames) in Ireland. As you delve into the records more and more, you > will > become aware that multitudinous spellings about for almost every name or > place imaginable. This makes our research there so much more difficult, > but > oh what joy when one suddenly finds a weird spelling which is relevant to > our family or place! > > Welcome to the most frustrating, yet extremely enjoyable world of Irish > research. > > AND I am hoping that MANY OTHERS will find all of the holes and mistakes > in > what I have written here; and will write TO THE LIST with their own > preferences, sources, etc. (hint, hint!!) > > Ray in oz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan" <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> > To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:15 PM > Subject: [CoTyIre] Connolly > > >> Thank you for all the replies I have received. You are a wonderful >> group - >> I'm so glad I found you. >> >> Ray: Are any of the resources which you mentioned on-line? > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message