Michael Burns here, I don't know where the questions marks on my posting appeared from, I wonder if they'll appear on this posting? --- On Mon, 6/7/09, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 155 To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 8:01 AM You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, please follow the instructions on http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html Today's Topics: 1. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 154 (MICHAEL BURNS) 2. Hegerty possibly with Devlin (Maxine) 3. Looking for VOGAN in 1740 Census of Protestant House Keeper in Ulster (Raymond Riffle) 4. Searching for information on Ellen Beattie's family (Laurie Topping) 5. Re: Searching for information on Ellen Beattie's family (Ray) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 08:18:45 +0000 (GMT) From: MICHAEL BURNS <aardvarkgs@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 154 To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <546015.23698.qm@web87105.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 ? Hi There were many Monaghans in Dunamore, Kildress parish,? near?Cookstown on the road towards Omagh. They were Catholics and some emigrated to the iron producing towns of north east England ? Newcastle, Consett, Tow Law, Witton Park and Port Clarence.? Michael Burns --- On Sun, 5/7/09, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 154 To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 8:01 AM You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list.? If you no longer wish to receive these messages, please follow the instructions on http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html Today's Topics: ???1. Re: Susan McKenna (tyroneire@aol.com) ???2. O'Neil;McGuire and Monaghan (mary clancy) ???3. Re: O'Neil;McGuire and Monaghan (David Hall) ???4. Re: Susan McKenna (Patricia Moosman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:16:52 -0400 From: tyroneire@aol.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Susan McKenna To: patmikecoogan@comcast.net, COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CBCAD9FA05C468-1044-51E7@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Pat, If it's any help, both McKENNA and BRADLEY are names found in Co. Tyrone.? The McKENNA surname generally hails from the southern part of the county - Diocese of Clogher.? You may want to research her siblings who may have remained in the area. -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Coogan <patmikecoogan@comcast.net> To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 7:57 am Subject: [CoTyIre] Susan McKenna I just recently found that my ancestor Susan McKenna was from County? Tyrone, Ireland and not County Kilkenny as had been family folklore. She was born in 1827 in Tyrone, Ireland.? She immigrated to England at some point and lived her life there.? She married Michael Bradley but I don't know if that happened in Ireland or England.? Any advice from? other McKenna's on which way to go from here?? Thank you for any advice you can offer. Pat Connor Coogan ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:41:41 -0400 From: "mary clancy" <dreamcatcher28@roadrunner.com> Subject: [CoTyIre] O'Neil;McGuire and Monaghan To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <A0730DADF6C44BCEB40400D76CF35330@yourc44d19af4e> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="iso-8859-1" Hello to everyone This is my first attempt at searching Co Tyrone for my GGGGrandparents John O'Neil, Peter McGuire and Rosina Monaghan.? I was told that Co Tyrone was a good place to look for these particular names.? Are these surnames usually found in this area?? Any help would be wonderful.? I've been away for quite some time (due to illness)? and I've not had much luck in my research. Thank You Mary Clancy Buffalo, NY USA ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:14:27 +0100 From: David Hall <hallmark1@utvinternet.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] O'Neil;McGuire and Monaghan To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4A4FD443.3040909@utvinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Religion? Time scale? mary clancy wrote: > Hello to everyone > This is my first attempt at searching Co Tyrone for my GGGGrandparents John O'Neil, Peter McGuire and Rosina Monaghan.? I was told that Co Tyrone was a good place to look for these particular names.? Are these surnames usually found in this area?? Any help would be wonderful.? I've been away for quite some time (due to illness)? and I've not had much luck in my research. > Thank You > Mary Clancy > Buffalo, NY > USA > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090704-0, 04/07/2009 > Tested on: 04/07/2009 22:44:19 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > >??? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:41:14 +1200 From: Patricia Moosman <pat.moosman@clear.net.nz> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Susan McKenna To: tyroneire@aol.com, patmikecoogan@comcast.net, ??? COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <0KMA002GC4CPQT10@smtp4.clear.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Pat I found this in Emerald ancestors for the 1851 census There are the odd scraps available from these in Ireland So hope this is of some help for you It may give you a starting point anyway Census 1851 Abstracts Record Date 1851 Name Michael BRADLEY Age na Marital Status Married Relationship in Household Head of Household Occupation? Townland Drumnaspar Lower Parish Bodoney Upper County Tyrone Good luck in your search Patricia New Zealand ------------------------------ To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 154 *********************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:02:19 -0500 From: Maxine <mmcapezza@lighttube.net> Subject: [CoTyIre] Hegerty possibly with Devlin To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <200907051602.n65G2IHL025153@mail107c26.carrierzone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello, My family from County Tyrone is John/William Hegerty who left Ireland about 1855 with his wife Kathrine and their 3 year old son, William Hegerty. John/William was born August 6, 1832 in County Tyrone. I don't know if they were Catholic or not and don't really know where to turn. Any suggestions??? Thanks, Maxine ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Raymond Riffle <riffle34@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [CoTyIre] Looking for VOGAN in 1740 Census of Protestant House Keeper in Ulster To: nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com, cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <736141.32894.qm@web82808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi ? I recently found a reference to 1740 Census of Protestant House Keeper in Ulster.? I am curious to learn if the name VOGAN appears on this list. ? Our Vogan family sailed for America in the early 1740's.? Our family reunion is held next month. ? If you have access to this information, and the time to search for this family name, I would be most grateful. ? Thank you. ? Ronda ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 01:20:42 +1000 From: "Laurie Topping" <laurie@topping.com.au> Subject: [CoTyIre] Searching for information on Ellen Beattie's family To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAXxdFCUYO4k2lnf+pBwh7VsKAAAAQAAAAwk34w6owXEyN6KnEilYoOAEAAAAA@topping.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi I have recently discovered that my great grandmother Ellen Hastie (nee Beattie) was born in Strabane, Donegal in 1867. I have been told that this would have been part of County Tyrone, not Donegal as I had previously thought. Ellen's parents were Edward Beattie (farmer) and Grace McCarthy. Ellen travelled to Australia and married my great grandfather James Hastie on 13 February, 1889 at West End, Brisbane. The ceremony was performed by a Presbyterian minister. I believe that Ellen may have been a domestic servant. I have had no luck in finding any information about Ellen's parents and hope that someone may be able to assist or advise me as to how best to do this. Kind regards Kay Topping ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:56:58 +1000 From: "Ray" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Searching for information on Ellen Beattie's family To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <31DDDF3A6C5A42A19CA61C0CF3224278@linda> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Kay. A few thoughts to run past you. Firstly, the Strabane BDM Registration District, and the Strabane Poor Law Union, although primarily based in County Tyrone, took/takes? in parts of County Donegal also; AND from stuff which I found from a google search for Strabane Poor Law Union, also seems to take in part of County Londonderry! (quite a mixture there). So this MIGHT explain why you have County Donegal, but also Strabane in your records for the same person. Here is link to the web-site of the wonderfully knowledgeable and helpful Jane LYONS, which shows some of that: http://www.from-ireland.net/don/civ.htm And whilst at it, here is a link to the Strabane Historical Society's web-site; although the few items in there might not be too helpful to you; although the item on Strabane in the 1840s might also provide some locality details for you: http://www.strabanehistorysociety.com/local_research_index.htm And this link to the Donegal County Council about its Poor Law archives is fascinating in many respects. I could not find their having holdings of the Strabane Poor Law records -- which I would expect might instead be in PRONI (the Public Record Office of/for Northern Ireland). http://www.donegalcoco.ie/services/communityculturalenterprise/Archives+Service/archivescollection.htm (and BTW, I had a laugh at the 'coco' name in this link above; seemingly for COunty COuncil. Perhaps that is normal in Ireland, but it made me think of a monkey! haha) SECONDLY: Research in Oz. Are you familiar with Oz research? If not, then I would suggest a few of the following, for trying to locate the immigration records for your people. 1. Queensland state archives in Brisbane. http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/indexes.asp and their guides and information leaflets etc.: http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/briefguides.asp 2. The NSW State Records' online records; http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online as well as their information leaflets on Immigration and Shipping records. http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief 3. The Society of Australian genealogists' web-site, for their information leaflets, http://www.sag.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=44 and perhaps some other online records. http://www.sag.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=56&Itemid=44 4. The microfiche indexes issued by Pastkeys, to the Immigration Deposit Journals. These are indexed by the surname of the Immigrant, and also by the surname of the 'depositor' in Oz who paid for their passage out. If you find any references of interest in there; then you will need to go to the microfilm records for the various shipping arrivals -- which are in the NSW State Records' series called the ARK -- formerly called the GRK (Genealogical Research Kit); which will be in the Queensland State Library in Brisbane (perhaps in the Oxley Library there); and I expect that many local libraries, historical, and family history societies may also have copies. HTH: ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Topping" <laurie@topping.com.au> > I have recently discovered that my great grandmother Ellen Hastie (nee > Beattie) was born in Strabane, Donegal in 1867. I have been told that this > would have been part of County Tyrone, not Donegal as I had previously > thought. Ellen's parents were Edward Beattie (farmer) and Grace McCarthy. > Ellen travelled to Australia and married my great grandfather James Hastie > on 13 February, 1889 at West End, Brisbane. The ceremony was performed by > a > Presbyterian minister. I believe that Ellen may have been a domestic > servant. I have had no luck in finding any information about Ellen's > parents > and hope that someone may be able to assist or advise me as to how best to > do this. ... Kay Topping ------------------------------ To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 155 ***********************************************