Listers should be warned that many 19th century BMD records are non- existent, having been destroyed in a 1922 fire at the records office during "the troubles" Make sure you know the name of the townland not just the county before you contact any of the research companies. Otherwise you will start on an expensive needle in a haystack search. My ancestors were married mid to late 1830s in Clogher and started a family, however after spending a lot of money I found out that records for that time period do not exist. A friend of mine from Ottawa researching his ancestors went to N. Ireland with Ontario land deeds and other documents dating back to 1835. The Irish researcher jokingly suggested that Canadian records were more complete than what he had to work with. And old Irish church records if located can be daunting since some priests (depending on their education) made BMD entries combining Latin, English and Gaelic. Good luck JIM On 2-Nov-09, at 3:01 AM, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the > CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive > these messages, please follow the instructions on http:// > lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ulster Historical Foundation (Joan) > 2. Re: Ulster Historical Foundation (Claire K) > 3. Re: Ulster Historical Foundation (BonnieM) > 4. Ulster Historical Foundation (Joan) > 5. Free Look Ups - New England; For AcadianJoan (false) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 04:29:58 -0800 (PST) > From: Joan <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <174565.89178.qm@web59414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Folks, > > What do you folks think of the Ulster Historical Foundation? I > notice that if I become a member, I have access to many records, > but mainly in a few counties. (Down and Antrim if I remember > correctly?) All that I have found so far on my family members has > been in County Tyrone, but I see on a map that Down and Antrim are > pretty close. > > Has anyone purchased a membership to this site? What do you think? > > Thanks, > > Joan > > > Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. > Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA > Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:41:23 -0500 > From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > To: Joan <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> > Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <A6644C87-346F-4415-9C88-2A0EB1F760FD@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > The UHF is, among other things, the official (government-appointed) > research center for Cos. Antrim and Down, so, yes, they have more > Antrim / Down records than anything else. They do, however, collect > records from all over Ireland (not just Northern Ireland) and have > some resources that are country-wide (Flaxgrowers List, Calendar of > Wills, etc.). They also do research for a fee in both the Dublin and > Belfast depositories, organize seminars / conferences, publish > journals, etc. I've been a happy member of their Guild for years, > but not primarily for their online databases (most of which I've > either exhausted or don't apply to my research interests). Like you, > most of my folks are in Tyrone (the rest in Donegal), and I have > noticed that the UHF is getting more Tyrone material, but it's > nowhere near the volume of what they have for Antrim and Down. They > will never have Tyrone BMD / parish registers, because the county > center for Tyrone (Irish World, formerly Heritage World) (and the > affiliated Irish Family History Foundation site) has those. The UHF > comes annually to the US on a lecture tour (in different parts of the > country each time), so it's worth going to see them if they're ever > in traveling distance of you (or in a location you'd like to visit). > I highly recommend them, but want to clarify -- you wouldn't be > subscribing to a site (like you do with Ancestry), you'd be joining a > society (in their case, their affiliated Guild) that has a Members > Only section of the site as one member benefit (and lots of other > member benefits). > > HTH > > Claire K. > > > On Nov 1, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Joan wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> What do you folks think of the Ulster Historical Foundation? I >> notice that if I become a member, I have access to many records, >> but mainly in a few counties. (Down and Antrim if I remember >> correctly?) All that I have found so far on my family members has >> been in County Tyrone, but I see on a map that Down and Antrim are >> pretty close. >> >> Has anyone purchased a membership to this site? What do you think?... > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:34:47 -0500 > From: "BonnieM" <blmalmat@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001ca5b21$fe336570$0380a8c0@Bonz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Unfortunately for me, Irish World/IFHF's Tyrone coverage is mostly > Catholic > parishes; some Presbyterian Church records and I think all of four COI > parishes, so unless your ancestry in that area is Catholic, you > won't find > much. My Catholics are in Donegal, not Tyrone, unfortunately. > > Irish World not added more online in years. I check occasionally, > same list. > I had hoped that with things coming online with the IFHF, we'd see > more > parishes/religions, but I guess it's not happening. > > It could be worse. Their coverage for Fermanagh is practically non- > existant. > Other nearby places like Monaghan County doesn't even have a center. > > Ah, the joys of Irish research. > > I do like the UHF coverage and as a member, I've got my money's > worth for > the Antrim/Down records. My ancestry is in Tyrone, Donegal, Antrim, > Monaghan, Fermanagh and I have two families for which I've never > got beyond > the dreaded "N. Ireland" broad description. The families are from > at least > three different religions. > > Things are improving, slowly. I hope that more becomes available > over time. > I just might break down those brick walls! It would be nice if I do so > before I kick the bucket. :p > > Bonz > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:41 AM > To: Joan > Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > > Like you, most of my folks are in Tyrone (the rest in Donegal), and > I have > noticed that the UHF is getting more Tyrone material, but it's > nowhere near > the volume of what they have for Antrim and Down. They will never > have > Tyrone BMD / parish registers, because the county center for Tyrone > (Irish > World, formerly Heritage World) (and the affiliated Irish Family > History > Foundation site) has those. > > Claire K. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) > From: Joan <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <116010.27719.qm@web59415.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks for the replies. Great info from people in the know. > > Joan > > > Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. > Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA > Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:10:53 -0800 (PST) > From: false <hart4god@yahoo.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Free Look Ups - New England; For AcadianJoan > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <691474.41238.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Thank you, Joan, for your kind offer. > ? > I found this entry on the site you gave: > ? > ? > Name:? Rivard, Malvina??? (husband:? James Murphy) > Town:? Lowell > Year:? 1894 > Volume 443 > Page 188 > Type:? Marriage > ? > I'd like to have a copy of this marriage record - I am really > looking for the parents of?her husband, James Murphy.? If there are > witnesses to the marriage, that would be valuable information.? > Also, do you know of any way of finding out if they had children?? > ? > Thank you, > Diane > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an > email to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 217 > *********************************************** >