http://www.turtlebunbury.com/biography.html Turtle Bunbury and I have been happily pursuing dead Bunburys from Ireland together, and I have been digging up Gerrards from Meath. Turtle wrote The Irish Pub and clearly would be the man to rewrite history properly, from a pub perspective. I will forward him our little discussion. Joy Hogg If you take pity on this displaced Canadian, living in northern Michigan, my Hoggs seem to end with James Hogg and Sarah McKee having spawned a Robert Hogg, 1814 to 1890, married to an Agnes Nancy Bayne. His son Samuel, 1855 to 1922, wore himself out with three successive wives and died before his last one, Sarah Jane Farrell 1873-1944. My husband David seems much calmer. Joy Hogg