Hi Sharon, The trouble with Lists is that many people hit reply and thereby send the answer privately to the poster so the rest of us never know if you got an answer. So, just in case no-one has told you, it is easy peasy to find the parents of Robert and Margaret. Personally, I would go to my local FHC in Derry and look it up in the index, find the cert number and then send to Belfast or Dublin for the cert. However, you don't really need the cert number if you have the exact date. Simply use the Belfast GRO (expensive but online) or the Dublin one (half the price but has to be done by post). The cert will give you not only the names of both fathers but also the address of the two folk when they married and maybe even a sibling or two as witnesses. Here are the urls: http://www.groni.gov.uk/ and http://www.groireland.ie/ If you look at the Dublin GRO, you do not need either a credit card or a cheque - just go to any bank and get an international money order: "We will accept personal cheques/bank drafts, International Money Orders and Irish Postal Orders denominated in € Euro." Ditto belfast: "You can pay by cash, cheque (accompanied by a cheque guarantee card), postal order or by using a valid Visa, Mastercard of Maestro (card-holder only). An international money order is also accepted from those applying from outside the UK." Not sure what you hope to find from Emerald Ancestors. This is all they have on their site: Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 25 Jul 1883 Groom Name robert FULLERTON Bride Name margaret MAYS Church Dungannon Civil Registrars Office Parish Drumglass Civil District Dungannon County Tyrone No fathers' names. And if you want to send to them for the cert, you still need a credit card. Or I would and how would you pay me? Thomas' death is VERY likely to be in one of the local papers but being from Donegal and Derry, I have no idea what the local paper might be. You can of course also apply for his death cert from either Dublin of Belfast. Maybe this would be the best idea as you could search the indexes to find the right year before searching newspapers. Happy New Year, Boyd -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Smith Sent: 01 January 2009 18:56 To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Fullerton family County Tyrone Hi List members, I am hoping that 2009 brings us all alot more information on the persons we are seeking for our family Tree. Also all the best for everyone this New Year 2009 !!! Now back to research. Near the end of 2008 I managed to get alot of verbal information from my Uncle Fullerton in Ireland, so now I have to try to confirm dates with what he told me. I will start as far back with what was told to me and ask for advise to anyone with ideas for help. Robert Fullerton born Tyrone N.Ireland possibly Moyroe about 1867, he had 4 brothers named David, Thomas, John and William, unknown if there were any sisters, all dates unknown. Robert married July 25 1883 at age 16 to a Margaret Mays marriage was in the Parish of Drumglass. I dont know parents names for either of them and would like help there if possible. Robert Fullerton and Margaret Mays had 2 children, John "Jack" Fullerton born March 15 1884, and a Thomas Fullerton born abt 1886, both were to be born Moyroe. Now this is where I really need some help. Robert died about 1932 and his wife no clue. Thomas their son died between 1903 and 1911, he was beat up and died a maybe a week later. What I would love to find out is Robert and his Wife's parents names and any information on Thomas. My Uncle said Thomas died at 21 years of age or just before he turned 21 so could be closer to 1907 or 1908. I dont know if there would be any sort of newspaper clipping about a young man dying from a fight back in that time, or what newspaper to contact about it. So any help or ideas would be wonderful. At this point I cant send for records in Ireland, as they request credit cards and dont accept American Checks. I dont have a credit card. So if anyone out there belongs to Emerald Ancestors and willing to help out, I would be thankful. Thank you Sharon _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message