Nikki First, I am not searching the surname Carroll and have no further information. If your ancestors are like mine, they all fib about their birth dates, even the males. My grandfather claimed a birth date of 13 Jun 1883 everywhere but I finally found his birth to be 13 June 1875. Searching births 1859-1867, I did not find any 1863 births, here is what I found: County Tyrone Civil Parish: CLOGHER McCarroll James 1867 McCarroll Ellen Jane 1864 McCarroll Ellen 1866 McCarroll Ellen 1871 Civil Parish: BERAGH McCarroll James 1859 Co. Tyrone No Ellen's Civil Parish: DRUMQUIN CASTLEDERG Carril James 1866 No Ellen If you have evidence better then a US census and your are positive that he was born in 1863, here are possibilities in other counties: Church Baptisms 1863 Carrol James 1863 Co. Galway Carrol James 1863 Co. Cork (2) Carroll James 1863 Co. Wicklow (2) Carroll James 1863 Co. Kilkenny Carroll James 1863 Co. Mayo (2) Carroll James 1863 Co. Antrim Carroll James 1863 Co. Limerick Carroll James 1863 Co. Louth (4) By the way, stone masonry was a family necessity, not a trade, for most Irish. Happy Hunting Bill Hazelton Memphis ----- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:49:47 -0500 From: Nicole Wenzel <nmwenzel@verizon.net> Subject: [CoTyIre] Co tyrone To: "COTYRONEIRELAND.com" <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <497F574B.3000105@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello, I am wondering if anyone might be able to point me in the right direction. Seeking information on James Frances Carroll, born December, 1863 in Co. Tyrone. My grandmother reports that he had at least two sisters, one we believe was Ellen, who both joined the convent(which convent, we do not know and there were quite a few of them at that time. My grandmother also believes she heard that James left home/ran away at a young age (12-15 years of age). He subsequently fought in the first Boer War. James came to Philadelphia in 1883/4, where he married and had four daughters. In Philadelphia, James was a stone mason (we do not know if this was a family trade or not.) He passed in 1923. Thank you for any help or guidance. Nikki Wenzel -**********************