"Most information one reads about DNA testing and genealogy stress that DNA is only another tool and needs to be used in conjunction with paper genealogy." Absolutely Margaret! -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Barnes via Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 6:39 PM To: Loretta Layman Cc: twalden27@gmail.com; cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Autosomal DNA - Family Finder My brother has had numerous FF matches with whom we share multiple surnames, and sorting them out has been almost futile." This is the reason it is suggested one has as many cousins as possible tested (at their expense if you can!) Then you can work out which side of the family a match matches. I think also the videos on youTube by Genetic Genealogy Ireland are fabulous. There is one especially about grouping your matches into townlands. I have surnames which come up as matches all the time but so far I cannot see that we have relations by these names. Most information one reads about DNA testing and genealogy stress that DNA is only another tool and needs to be used in conjunction with paper genealogy. Margaret in Oz. ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Every man has his mother's mtDNA; it just cannot be passed on. mtDNA is useful for determining geographical connections but not surname connections. Shirley ---------- Original Message ---------- From: David Bartley via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> To: Tom Walden <twalden27@gmail.com> Cc: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 113 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:34:15 -0400 I think you’re a little off here, Tom, about the possibility of an individual carrying his or her father’s mtDNA. Actually, each individual carries only his or her mother’s mtDNA. Therefore, tracing back through mtDNA is exactly analogous to tracing via the Y chromosome. One gives the paternal line, whereas the other, the maternal. Either line is very limited in describing the genetic makeup of an individual. For example, going back 6 generations, often there are 32 pairs of great^4grandparents as ancestors, each of which can have genetic influence on the individual in question (not just your single pair of great^4grandparents named Walden). David > On May 29, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Tom Walden via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Ancestry.com has a lot of ability to match you up with everyone in their > database so it has a lot of information that comes up including exact > matches with shared people in your tree and in the tree of a match. I've > often been able to add new information and connections. The ethnicity > information is interesting. I'd no idea I'd turn out to be 51% Irish. > I do have a beef with ancestry.com though. I originally did a YDNA test > for the male lineage because that was a brick wall only a couple > generations back. The YDNA feature gave me some interesting matches and > I'd had great hopes that it would get me connected to others. However > ancestry.com phased out that feature and stopped offering the test and so > no new results were available. YDNA is a great tool for searching out your > male lineage and I'm still irate about them dropping the test. MTDNA is > less useful because each female carries two copies and children can inherit > either their father's one copy or either of their mother's copies. YDNA is > a single thread tracing back to every male's common ancestor with distance > giving increased mutation variations. > Family tree DNA is the way to go for YDNA testing now. Ancestry.com has a > lot to offer if you have a tree with a lot of people in it to match up with > others who've taken the test. > A side note: We had an oral history hint that the Waldens were whalers > from Ireland. My recent breakthrough connected me up with Nantucket and > Martha's Vineyard where the name was spelled Waldron and the men were > indeed whalers or in related trades. Now I'm not sure if we are Waldron > whalers from Ireland or Waldron whalers from the Islands. Maybe DNA will > tell me some day. > Tom Walden > > >> >> Hello all >> I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... >> Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. >> Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into it >> at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! >> Bridgid >> Toronto >> >> >> >> >> I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not sure >> what >> Ancestry offers because I haven?t heard anything good about it. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael Kelly >> >> Emporium, >> Cameron County, >> Pennsylvania, >> United States of America >> > -- > TOM WALDEN > > 3707 HIGHWAY 13 > STITES, IDAHO 83552 > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The one caution I would offer is that Family Finder results cannot tell you which bit of autosomal DNA came from which specific ancestral line. My brother has had numerous FF matches with whom we share multiple surnames, and sorting them out has been almost futile. He's had only one FF match for whom we could identify the exact shared ancestor, and that was only because it's a rather uncommon surname and because both had a reliable paper trail. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Flandrensis via Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 4:32 PM To: smith_shirley_ross@juno.com; cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com; twalden27@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] mtDNA The Family finder test at Family Tree DNA is a goody as it gives you cousin matchesgoing back and out to many generations if they are in the data base. So you get paternal aand maternal matches. The raw data files can also be uploaded to Gedmatch so another database for comparisons..with people from many different companies including Family Tree And Ancestry. Family tree are more reliable as Ancestor stopped testing for Y years back and so we all transfered to Ftdna and upgraded there from a basic 12 or 25 marker Y test to a 67 Y. The Family finder test is basically an ethnicity test..so breaks up your genetic make up in %s and gives you a list of cousin names in the data base which is ever growing. Our Fleming surname and Flemish Scotlands People project is at Ftdna...and I am finding new cousins every day as both my brother and I have y tested, my tested and had the Family finder test at Family tree DNA. Also prices are great, and do send kits to Australia. We had o! ver 200 testers at ancestry and they shut the Y project down. Most unreliable so decided to go with FTDNA. Yes the auto upload to YSearch another data base and mitochondrial comparisons is a bonus. There is a recent artical out about Ancestry being up for sale..so not good as do not know what they are up to > Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:40:23 +0000 > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CoTyIre] mtDNA > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Every man has his mother's mtDNA; it just cannot be passed on. mtDNA > is useful for determining geographical connections but not surname > connections. Shirley > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: David Bartley via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > To: Tom Walden <twalden27@gmail.com> > Cc: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 113 > Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:34:15 -0400 > > I think you’re a little off here, Tom, about the possibility of an individual carrying his or her father’s mtDNA. Actually, each individual carries only his or her mother’s mtDNA. Therefore, tracing back through mtDNA is exactly analogous to tracing via the Y chromosome. One gives the paternal line, whereas the other, the maternal. Either line is very limited in describing the genetic makeup of an individual. For example, going back 6 generations, often there are 32 pairs of great^4grandparents as ancestors, each of which can have genetic influence on the individual in question (not just your single pair of great^4grandparents named Walden). > > David > > > > On May 29, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Tom Walden via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Ancestry.com has a lot of ability to match you up with everyone in > > their database so it has a lot of information that comes up > > including exact matches with shared people in your tree and in the > > tree of a match. I've often been able to add new information and > > connections. The ethnicity information is interesting. I'd no idea I'd turn out to be 51% Irish. > > I do have a beef with ancestry.com though. I originally did a YDNA > > test for the male lineage because that was a brick wall only a > > couple generations back. The YDNA feature gave me some interesting > > matches and I'd had great hopes that it would get me connected to > > others. However ancestry.com phased out that feature and stopped > > offering the test and so no new results were available. YDNA is a > > great tool for searching out your male lineage and I'm still irate > > about them dropping the test. MTDNA is less useful because each > > female carries two copies and children can inherit either their > > father's one copy or either of their mother's copies. YDNA is a > > single thread tracing back to every male's common ancestor with distance giving increased mutation variations. > > Family tree DNA is the way to go for YDNA testing now. Ancestry.com > > has a lot to offer if you have a tree with a lot of people in it to > > match up with others who've taken the test. > > A side note: We had an oral history hint that the Waldens were > > whalers from Ireland. My recent breakthrough connected me up with > > Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard where the name was spelled Waldron > > and the men were indeed whalers or in related trades. Now I'm not > > sure if we are Waldron whalers from Ireland or Waldron whalers from > > the Islands. Maybe DNA will tell me some day. > > Tom Walden > > > > > >> > >> Hello all > >> I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... > >> Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. > >> Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping > >> into it at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! > >> Bridgid > >> Toronto > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not > >> sure what Ancestry offers because I haven?t heard anything good > >> about it. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Michael Kelly > >> > >> Emporium, > >> Cameron County, > >> Pennsylvania, > >> United States of America > >> > > -- > > TOM WALDEN > > > > 3707 HIGHWAY 13 > > STITES, IDAHO 83552 > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
You can upload your results to the National Geographic genome project from familytreeedna.com for a pittance. familytreedna has sale prices fairly often. Shirley ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "michael.kelly via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> To: "Kimberly McCord" <kamccor@ilstu.edu> Cc: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 113 Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 11:19:19 -0400 (EDT) I am pretty sure ftdna does the testing for national geographic Mike > I used National Geographic. For women, you will only get your mother's > side. > > Kim McCord > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 29, 2015, at 2:00 AM, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> >> You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the >> CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these >> messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from >> digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links >> and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated >> web site. >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 (bridgid wilson) >> 2. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 (Mike Kelly) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 08:08:49 -0400 >> From: bridgid wilson <bridgidwilson@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 >> To: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <COL401-EAS108A4B798078DF9557ECE72B8CA0@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hello all >> I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... >> Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. >> Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into >> it at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! >> Bridgid >> Toronto >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 21:58:21 -0400 >> From: "Mike Kelly" <michael.kelly@zitomedia.net> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 >> To: "bridgid wilson" <bridgidwilson@hotmail.com>, >> <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <073795FA7A6745C1B903AA8DCEE5BC30@MikePC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not sure >> what >> Ancestry offers because I haven?t heard anything good about it. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael Kelly >> >> Emporium, >> Cameron County, >> Pennsylvania, >> United States of America >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bridgid wilson via >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:08 AM >> To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 >> >> Hello all >> I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... >> Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. >> Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into >> it at >> all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! >> Bridgid >> Toronto >> >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 113 >> ************************************************ > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
> > > > > > > > I used National Geographic. For women, you will only get your mother's > > side. > > > > Kim McCord > > > > > > I totally spaced and mis-spoke about MTDNA. We all (men and women) carry > our mother's mtDNA and it can be useful although I understand the mutation > rate is slower and so it is less easy to discover how closely related > you are to others over time. > * MTDNA is less useful because each female carries two copies and children > can inherit* The previous statement is totally wrong. So I was thinking of the two X chromosomes carried by each female and one by each male when I stated incorrectly here. Men are XY and women are XX. Any female gets one X from her dad and one from the two Xs her mom carries and each male gets one of the two Xs his mom carries, so the combinations inherited give no straight and clear lineage information. That's what comes of writing about a subject one is not expert on when having had only a couple of sips of coffee instead of the full mug. Sorry for any confusion. What a dope! -- TOM WALDEN 3707 HIGHWAY 13 STITES, IDAHO 83552
I think you’re a little off here, Tom, about the possibility of an individual carrying his or her father’s mtDNA. Actually, each individual carries only his or her mother’s mtDNA. Therefore, tracing back through mtDNA is exactly analogous to tracing via the Y chromosome. One gives the paternal line, whereas the other, the maternal. Either line is very limited in describing the genetic makeup of an individual. For example, going back 6 generations, often there are 32 pairs of great^4grandparents as ancestors, each of which can have genetic influence on the individual in question (not just your single pair of great^4grandparents named Walden). David > On May 29, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Tom Walden via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Ancestry.com has a lot of ability to match you up with everyone in their > database so it has a lot of information that comes up including exact > matches with shared people in your tree and in the tree of a match. I've > often been able to add new information and connections. The ethnicity > information is interesting. I'd no idea I'd turn out to be 51% Irish. > I do have a beef with ancestry.com though. I originally did a YDNA test > for the male lineage because that was a brick wall only a couple > generations back. The YDNA feature gave me some interesting matches and > I'd had great hopes that it would get me connected to others. However > ancestry.com phased out that feature and stopped offering the test and so > no new results were available. YDNA is a great tool for searching out your > male lineage and I'm still irate about them dropping the test. MTDNA is > less useful because each female carries two copies and children can inherit > either their father's one copy or either of their mother's copies. YDNA is > a single thread tracing back to every male's common ancestor with distance > giving increased mutation variations. > Family tree DNA is the way to go for YDNA testing now. Ancestry.com has a > lot to offer if you have a tree with a lot of people in it to match up with > others who've taken the test. > A side note: We had an oral history hint that the Waldens were whalers > from Ireland. My recent breakthrough connected me up with Nantucket and > Martha's Vineyard where the name was spelled Waldron and the men were > indeed whalers or in related trades. Now I'm not sure if we are Waldron > whalers from Ireland or Waldron whalers from the Islands. Maybe DNA will > tell me some day. > Tom Walden > > >> >> Hello all >> I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... >> Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. >> Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into it >> at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! >> Bridgid >> Toronto >> >> >> >> >> I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not sure >> what >> Ancestry offers because I haven?t heard anything good about it. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael Kelly >> >> Emporium, >> Cameron County, >> Pennsylvania, >> United States of America >> > -- > TOM WALDEN > > 3707 HIGHWAY 13 > STITES, IDAHO 83552 > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am pretty sure ftdna does the testing for national geographic Mike > I used National Geographic. For women, you will only get your mother's > side. > > Kim McCord > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 29, 2015, at 2:00 AM, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> >> You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the >> CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these >> messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from >> digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links >> and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated >> web site. >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 (bridgid wilson) >> 2. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 (Mike Kelly) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 08:08:49 -0400 >> From: bridgid wilson <bridgidwilson@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 >> To: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <COL401-EAS108A4B798078DF9557ECE72B8CA0@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hello all >> I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... >> Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. >> Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into >> it at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! >> Bridgid >> Toronto >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 21:58:21 -0400 >> From: "Mike Kelly" <michael.kelly@zitomedia.net> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 >> To: "bridgid wilson" <bridgidwilson@hotmail.com>, >> <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <073795FA7A6745C1B903AA8DCEE5BC30@MikePC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >> reply-type=original >> >> I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not sure >> what >> Ancestry offers because I haven?t heard anything good about it. >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael Kelly >> >> Emporium, >> Cameron County, >> Pennsylvania, >> United States of America >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bridgid wilson via >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:08 AM >> To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 >> >> Hello all >> I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... >> Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. >> Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into >> it at >> all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! >> Bridgid >> Toronto >> >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 113 >> ************************************************ > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Ancestry.com has a lot of ability to match you up with everyone in their database so it has a lot of information that comes up including exact matches with shared people in your tree and in the tree of a match. I've often been able to add new information and connections. The ethnicity information is interesting. I'd no idea I'd turn out to be 51% Irish. I do have a beef with ancestry.com though. I originally did a YDNA test for the male lineage because that was a brick wall only a couple generations back. The YDNA feature gave me some interesting matches and I'd had great hopes that it would get me connected to others. However ancestry.com phased out that feature and stopped offering the test and so no new results were available. YDNA is a great tool for searching out your male lineage and I'm still irate about them dropping the test. MTDNA is less useful because each female carries two copies and children can inherit either their father's one copy or either of their mother's copies. YDNA is a single thread tracing back to every male's common ancestor with distance giving increased mutation variations. Family tree DNA is the way to go for YDNA testing now. Ancestry.com has a lot to offer if you have a tree with a lot of people in it to match up with others who've taken the test. A side note: We had an oral history hint that the Waldens were whalers from Ireland. My recent breakthrough connected me up with Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard where the name was spelled Waldron and the men were indeed whalers or in related trades. Now I'm not sure if we are Waldron whalers from Ireland or Waldron whalers from the Islands. Maybe DNA will tell me some day. Tom Walden > > Hello all > I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... > Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. > Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into it > at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! > Bridgid > Toronto > > > > > I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not sure > what > Ancestry offers because I haven?t heard anything good about it. > > Regards, > > Michael Kelly > > Emporium, > Cameron County, > Pennsylvania, > United States of America > -- TOM WALDEN 3707 HIGHWAY 13 STITES, IDAHO 83552
I used National Geographic. For women, you will only get your mother's side. Kim McCord Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2015, at 2:00 AM, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated web site. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 (bridgid wilson) > 2. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 (Mike Kelly) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 08:08:49 -0400 > From: bridgid wilson <bridgidwilson@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 > To: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL401-EAS108A4B798078DF9557ECE72B8CA0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello all > I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... > Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. > Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into it at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! > Bridgid > Toronto > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 21:58:21 -0400 > From: "Mike Kelly" <michael.kelly@zitomedia.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 > To: "bridgid wilson" <bridgidwilson@hotmail.com>, > <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <073795FA7A6745C1B903AA8DCEE5BC30@MikePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not sure what > Ancestry offers because I haven?t heard anything good about it. > > Regards, > > Michael Kelly > > Emporium, > Cameron County, > Pennsylvania, > United States of America > > -----Original Message----- > From: bridgid wilson via > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:08 AM > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 > > Hello all > I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... > Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. > Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into it at > all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! > Bridgid > Toronto > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 113 > ************************************************
I still feel family tree DNA is the best company to test with. Not sure what Ancestry offers because I haven’t heard anything good about it. Regards, Michael Kelly Emporium, Cameron County, Pennsylvania, United States of America -----Original Message----- From: bridgid wilson via Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 8:08 AM To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 112 Hello all I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into it at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! Bridgid Toronto ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello all I hope this hasn't already been discussed but... Ancestry has started offering their DNA matching service in Ireland. Has anyone tried it yet? I'm wondering if Irish folks are jumping into it at all. I'm hoping for a robust Irish database! Bridgid Toronto
As long as you keep somewhere up to date with the software you use (I assume you use software other than keep a tree on Ancestry?) I use PAF, not updated for a long time but still working quite happily and does all I need of it If you keep regular back ups of your tree from your software or a gedcom if need be, kept in two or three separate places you should be covered If using Ancestry alone, the easiest way would be to use FTM 2012/2014 and download (Synch) your tree, you would then have a copy on your computer and would not need to rely on Ancestry You could then keep FTM back ups separately Old versions of FTM trees can almost always be updated to the latest version As to Ancestry being up for sale, nothing new, they were sold three years ago to the people who own it now, I did not see the world stop turning then and I do not expect it to if they sell it again Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 27/05/2015 18:30, Jackie Brown via wrote: > One of my concerns with software is that if I need a new pc the software may be outdated and I can't transfer my trees. What do people do?
Hi Michael, I did not post abt Laughlin Kelly. However I do have Kelly surname in our line from abt 1760. You can see Ann Kelly in my ancestry tree here: http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/690923/person/-2056413982 Tammy BC Canada On 23/04/2015 3:48 PM, Mike Kelly via wrote: > Did someone in the past post something on here about a Laughlin Kelly? If so > contact me I may have found something of interest. > > Regards, > > Michael Kelly > > Emporium, > Cameron County, > Pennsylvania, > United States of America > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It appears Ancestry.com may be up for sale. Check this blog http://lisalouisecooke.com/2015/05/ancestry-up-for-sale/ ******************************************* best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com
I'll take a look. Thanks Sent from my iPad > On May 27, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Carey Parks <carey@parkswhistles.com> wrote: > > I use GRAMPS (https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual) as my master database, keeping facts, images, relationship and anything else on my local computer (backed up of course.) But I use Ancestry to share my tree(s) and search for data and relationships. > > Granted GRAMPS is quite complex because it is so flexible, but most of the complexity can be ignored. Since it is open source, it will always exist, and there's a high probability it will continue to work as operating systems evolve. It current runs on Mac, Linux and Windows. > > Carey > >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Jackie Brown via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> One of my concerns with software is that if I need a new pc the software may be outdated and I can't transfer my trees. What do people do? >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On May 27, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Ulster Ancestry via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> > It appears Ancestry.com may be up for sale. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Check this blog http://lisalouisecooke.com/2015/05/ancestry-up-for-sale/ >> > >> > ******************************************* >> > best regards >> > Robert >> > www.ulsterancestry.com >> > ------------- >> > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > http://parkswhistles.com/ > http://www.facebook.com/carey.parks > http://twitter.com/LuthierCarey
And what makes that nice Trudy is if you use Portable version of Gramps available here http://portableapps.com/apps/education/gramps_portable You can put the tree on a 32 or 64GB thumb drive and use your program at the public library while using their free access to ancestry at least here in Ontario most libraries have this service. The benefit of the Portable Gramps it's file structure will work on both my Mac and on the PC portable version available without data any data loss. It quickly transfers as well to my windows laptop end result best of both worlds and you can show the tree off at family picnics and reunions without lugging around a 27" Mac. lol Leonard G. Fluhrer III len3@golden.net
Hi Jackie: I was one of the members on the LDS steering committee looking at updating the GEDCOM Standard few years back. Make sure you have a genealogy propram (99% of them are) that are able to export or save to at least that standard. A Gedcom able app is able to read a ged file which is a tag delimited text file. Ged's are straight text files that different programs can read regardless of age going back until the formation of the standard. Not all programs are fully gedcom compliant however so backups are important and keeping on to old programs also helpful. In my case I had many trees done in LDS's Personal Ancestry File (PAF) and when I went to Mac I switched to Open Source projected called Gramps. Gramps is very helpful in that it has versions available in virtually every platform that work very much alike Windows, Mac, Linux. It's available for free here is user supported and free to use with no spyware or adware. https://gramps-project.org/ It has in import from Gedcom feature it didn't fully understand all the tags however of Gedcom that I had in PAF so to work around that I run Wineskin which allows me to run Windows programs including PAF on my OS X Mac Snow Leopard. Wineskin was so used to seeing it's product used for PAF that my version came with a skin already setup for running Windows PAF. Hope this was helpful. Len Fluhrer
I have long used a little external hard drive to store my family tree, and I back it up to another. That way, I can always take one with me when traveling or visiting other family. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Brown via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> To: "Ulster Ancestry" <ulsterancestry@hotmail.com> Cc: fermanagh-gold@rootsweb.com, cotyroneireland-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:30:29 AM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] FERMANAGH-GOLD Alarming News about Ancestry.com One of my concerns with software is that if I need a new pc the software may be outdated and I can't transfer my trees. What do people do? Sent from my iPad > On May 27, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Ulster Ancestry via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > It appears Ancestry.com may be up for sale. > > > > > Check this blog http://lisalouisecooke.com/2015/05/ancestry-up-for-sale/ > > ******************************************* > best regards > Robert > www.ulsterancestry.com > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --
I use GRAMPS ( https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gramps_3.4_Wiki_Manual) as my master database, keeping facts, images, relationship and anything else on my local computer (backed up of course.) But I use Ancestry to share my tree(s) and search for data and relationships. Granted GRAMPS is quite complex because it is so flexible, but most of the complexity can be ignored. Since it is open source, it will always exist, and there's a high probability it will continue to work as operating systems evolve. It current runs on Mac, Linux and Windows. Carey On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Jackie Brown via < cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > One of my concerns with software is that if I need a new pc the software > may be outdated and I can't transfer my trees. What do people do? > > Sent from my iPad > > > On May 27, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Ulster Ancestry via < > cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > It appears Ancestry.com may be up for sale. > > > > > > > > > > Check this blog > http://lisalouisecooke.com/2015/05/ancestry-up-for-sale/ > > > > ******************************************* > > best regards > > Robert > > www.ulsterancestry.com > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://parkswhistles.com/ http://www.facebook.com/carey.parks http://twitter.com/LuthierCarey
One of my concerns with software is that if I need a new pc the software may be outdated and I can't transfer my trees. What do people do? Sent from my iPad > On May 27, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Ulster Ancestry via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > It appears Ancestry.com may be up for sale. > > > > > Check this blog http://lisalouisecooke.com/2015/05/ancestry-up-for-sale/ > > ******************************************* > best regards > Robert > www.ulsterancestry.com > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message