Hi everyone, The Tyrone Constitution along with the all the others Len gave is also available on Find My Past (they're owned by the same company!). I've also found the Belfast Newsletter a good source of info for my family. Best wishes, Sarah Wellington, New Zealand ----------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 23:53:20 +1000 From: Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com> Subject: [CoTyIre] Tyrone Constitution has been digitised To: "COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BLU181-W86D8241B9B3988B37A757AE0890@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Listers, Some months back there was considerable excitement on this list re. an online petition to the British Library requesting digitisation of the Tyrone Constitution. Today I checked the British Newspaper Archive; www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk and was delighted to note that the Tyrone Constitution has been digitised. Listers should note that there are a further two newspapers that are essential for Tyrone research; The Derry Journal covers north and mid-Tyrone and the Enniskillen Chronicle & Erne Packet is essential for news and personal announcements for mid and South Tyrone. I also found the Northern Whig (Belfast) contained a great marriage announcement relevant to my Strabane forebears. Good luck with your research! Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

This might help - On July 8, 2015, Catholic records were released to view and for free at: http://registers.nli.ie/ Baptism, Marriages, Burials for most, not all of the Parishes (nice map to help you figure out most likely parishes. Bad news if you don't have a clue where your folks lived). Not all years for all records are represented. In fact, some parish years/records are quite skimpy. Some of the records were written by a person whose handwritten skills created a work of art. Most were not. Many are barely legible or decipherable. If that weren't enough, you have to go through page by page as they are not indexed. And even if you find someone who sort of fits the bill, how can you be sure if you don't have other supporting documentation? Example: marriage record where the couple's names are 'right' (but common), the timeframe is within reason, but with no parent's names provided (and you didn't know them anyway) how can you be sure it's your couple? Still, I can do it at home and not have spent the money to fly across the pond to sit at PRONI going through microfilm. When I do go over, hopefully, I'll have nailed at least the village so I can stand on the old sod (along with going through microfilm) <sign> so little time, so many scans. The website FAQs - http://registers.nli.ie/help. This link may be of some use, https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Ireland_Catholic_Church_Records. And if any of you nice folks run across a Hugh Treanor or Catherine Sherlock - please give me a shout. :-) Ellen Virginia USA -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Len Swindley via Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 9:34 AM To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records PRONI Guide to Church Records records any registers/ records that await filming and the years covered and are still held at the local church, but in the case of Clogher no such comment is contained within the entry. As neither NLI and PRONI have filmed them it must be assumed that the baptisms were not recorded or the register has been destroyed. There was no legal compunction to maintain registers. This changed upon the introduction of civil registration in 1864 when the responsibility of recording BMDs became the responsibility of the State. As an example, I can quote the records for the church attended by my forebears; there are no surviving records prior to 1865. Hope this clarifies the situation, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 14:03:53 +0100 > From: eamonnteague@eircom.net > To: len_swindley@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records > > Thanks Len, its the Clogher ones I looked at. Do you know if the parish holds any earlier records locally that haven't been shared with NLI ? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Len Swindley via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:45:52 +0100 (IST) > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records > > I think you are referring to RC records as the NLI does not hold films of C of I registers (these are held at the NAI). > > The earliest surviving records for the Catholic parish of Clogher have been filmed by PRONI: > > Aughintain (Fivemiletown Chapel); Baptisms 1870-81, Marriages 1870-83 > > Clogher Chapel; Baptisms 1856-81, Marriages 1825-35 & 1840-81 > > Hope this helps, > > Len Swindley, > Melbourne, Australia > > > > > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:54:41 +0100 > > Subject: [CoTyIre] Clogher baptism records > > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > > > Is this for C of I records as I have some for Clogher C of I that I > > copied from PRONI a few years ago? > > What is the name you are looking for? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: eamonn teague <eamonnteague@eircom.net> > > Subject: [CoTyIre] baptism/birth records > > To: COTYRONEIRELAND <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: > > <20841928.260838.1438455243427.JavaMail.zimbra@eircom.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Folks, > > > > does anyone know if baptism records for the parish of Clogher Co. > > Tyrone exist for the period 1825 - 1835 ? the records in the NLI > > have records from > > 1853 on but I was wondering if the church might have locally held > > earlier records ???? > > if not any hints on how to find parental records/evidence for > > someone who I have a marriage record for in that parish in 1853 ? > > > > > > > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this for C of I records as I have some for Clogher C of I that I copied from PRONI a few years ago? What is the name you are looking for? -----Original Message----- From: eamonn teague <eamonnteague@eircom.net> Subject: [CoTyIre] baptism/birth records To: COTYRONEIRELAND <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <20841928.260838.1438455243427.JavaMail.zimbra@eircom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Folks, does anyone know if baptism records for the parish of Clogher Co. Tyrone exist for the period 1825 - 1835 ? the records in the NLI have records from 1853 on but I was wondering if the church might have locally held earlier records ???? if not any hints on how to find parental records/evidence for someone who I have a marriage record for in that parish in 1853 ?

Hello Eamonn I take it, as you mention the NLI, that it's Clogher Catholic records you are refering to. The following are available as public records. You would need to contact the Church directly to see if they have anything earlier in local custody R.C. Aughintaine [sic Aghintain] (Fivemiletown) (Clogher diocese) Baptisms, 1870-1881; marriages, 1870-83. R.C. Clogher (Clogher diocese) Baptisms, 1856-1881; marriages, 1825-35 and 1840-81. Contact details from their website are Clogher Diocesan Office Phone{ROI} 047 81019 Email diocesanoffice@clogherdiocese.ie best regards Robert > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 19:54:03 +0100 > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CoTyIre] baptism/birth records > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Folks, > > does anyone know if baptism records for the parish of Clogher Co. Tyrone exist for the period 1825 - 1835 ? the records in the NLI have records from 1853 on but I was wondering if the church might have locally held earlier records ???? > if not any hints on how to find parental records/evidence for someone who I have a marriage record for in that parish in 1853 ? > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, Some months back there was considerable excitement on this list re. an online petition to the British Library requesting digitisation of the Tyrone Constitution. Today I checked the British Newspaper Archive; www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk and was delighted to note that the Tyrone Constitution has been digitised. Listers should note that there are a further two newspapers that are essential for Tyrone research; The Derry Journal covers north and mid-Tyrone and the Enniskillen Chronicle & Erne Packet is essential for news and personal announcements for mid and South Tyrone. I also found the Northern Whig (Belfast) contained a great marriage announcement relevant to my Strabane forebears. Good luck with your research! Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia

Folks, does anyone know if baptism records for the parish of Clogher Co. Tyrone exist for the period 1825 - 1835 ? the records in the NLI have records from 1853 on but I was wondering if the church might have locally held earlier records ???? if not any hints on how to find parental records/evidence for someone who I have a marriage record for in that parish in 1853 ?

Eamonn, For church records of any denomination, go to the PRONI web site an look at its "Guide to Church Records". It is arranged by civil parish. ~Clare L. > On Aug 1, 2015, at 2:54 PM, eamonn teague via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Folks, > > does anyone know if baptism records for the parish of Clogher Co. Tyrone exist for the period 1825 - 1835 ? the records in the NLI have records from 1853 on but I was wondering if the church might have locally held earlier records ???? > if not any hints on how to find parental records/evidence for someone who I have a marriage record for in that parish in 1853 ? > -------------

Thankyou again His name was William FAULKNER. a rather popular name unfortunately. born abt 1799 1800 in Killoon Presbyterian Occupation; Farmer and Harness maker Married 1823 Brigh Presbyterian Church Stewartstown. Apparently sailed to PA in search of work and died suddenly at the home of a friend William Clement who wrote to Williams Wife in Tyrone informing her of the death on 14 June 1848.Following an Inquest was buried Franklin Cemetery Kensington PA. Have contacted Pennsylvania History and Library but they couldn't help me Stab in the dark but always open for suggestions. And can't help but agree it's a great site and thanks to all who contribute I have been fortunate to meet up with Dr William Railston at PRONI and Northern Ireland Historical felt if he couldn't help me nobody could, but I won't give up. Very greatful for the previous suggestions which will keep me busy Maryanne NZ. On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Maryanne Bayliss < endless.summer.nz@gmail.com> wrote: > Thankyou Trudy,Ellen,Mike > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:36 AM, <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the >> CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these >> messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from >> digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links >> and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated >> web site. >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (Len Swindley) >> 2. Re: Newly online (Dave Mitchell) >> 3. Data for Co Tyrone in other databases (Nivard Ovington) >> 4. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 (Maryanne Bayliss) >> 5. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 (Trudy Barbisan) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 21:15:57 +1000 >> From: Len Swindley <len_swindley@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers >> To: "COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <BLU181-W25D0C2B8587152AA2020B0E08B0@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> If the marriage of your forebears took place in a parish church (Church >> of Ireland) it will be locatable on FamilySearch; the Irish civil >> registration indexes are available for online searching - however you will >> need to know the registration district for accuracy. >> >> Protestant marriages were registered from 1845 - Catholic events did not >> fall within civil registration until 1864. Marriages generally took place >> in the church of the bride's family. >> >> Hope this opens a new avenue for your research, >> >> Len Swindley, >> Melbourne, Australia >> >> > >> > >> > >> > On 30/07/15 11:48 AM, "Pat H via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew >> > > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The >> first >> > > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant >> > > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. >> > > church, would that be correct? >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > >> > > Pat >> > > >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:07:34 +0200 >> From: "Dave Mitchell" <dm60@mweb.co.za> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newly online >> To: "K Cooper" <kaperc@gmail.com>, "Claire K via" >> <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <8783253FB3EC454BBF913370DC8E8184@DavePC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hello Kathleen >> >> In my case ...... >> >> "My grandfather [also] ...... went to South Africa from Co. >> Tyrone >> ........ [where he] marr(ied) my grandmother ...." >> >> There is a good online catalogue for South Africa's archives at >> http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/ >> (Home page: http://www.national.archives.gov.za/index.htm ) >> >> It is quite difficult to use for those not familiar with South Africa and >> its history, but does turn up information and/or access to [requesting] >> documents even for those who did not stay long. >> >> By all means, drop me an email with some names to <dm60@mweb.co.za> and I >> will do a quick search for you. >> >> >> Dave Mitchell >> Cape Town >> South Africa >> >> (My father grew up in the house "Tyrone", Erin Road, Rondebosch which is a >> suburb of Cape Town -- sadly demolished in the 1950s) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: K Cooper via >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 6:18 AM >> To: Claire K via >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newly online >> >> This is a good suggestion. >> >> My grandfather apparently went to South Africa from Co. Tyrone in order to >> earn money to marry my grandmother. If I had not had the story from my >> uncle, I wouldn?t have had any idea where to look for him. He worked for >> his >> passage in Abbeyleix, Queen's Co., where I found him on the census in >> 1901, >> a ?shopman.? Eventually I found the passenger lists for both the trip to >> and >> from South Africa and then on to Philadelphia. He wasn?t in the Merchant >> Navy (he was a grocer his entire life), but it just shows how far afield >> we >> sometimes have to go to find our missing ancestors! >> >> I agree with an earlier list member ? this is the best list I have ever >> belonged to and the website has helped me so much. Thanks to everyone who >> contributes! >> >> Kathleen >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> >> >> From: Claire K via >> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:43 PM >> To: CoTyrone CoTyrone >> Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online >> >> >> I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went >> to >> the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, where he >> joined the British navy for WWI. >> >> Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may >> help someone... >> >> Claire K >> >> Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, >> the >> Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been >> digitised and made available to search for free. >> Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew lists, >> featuring over 750,000 names. >> >> >> http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:44:27 +0100 >> From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> >> Subject: [CoTyIre] Data for Co Tyrone in other databases >> To: "cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <55BA465B.2010604@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I am a firm believer in trying all and every database I can just in case >> something pops up, which is often the case >> >> Just in case some haven't looked, in the England & Wales Probate >> Calendars on Ancestry (1858 to 1966 presently) >> >> A keyword search for Tyrone Ireland gets 3,596 hits as the place of death >> >> Perhaps worth having a look at >> >> Just the keyword Ireland gets 121,213 hits >> >> -- >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 06:05:52 +0600 >> From: Maryanne Bayliss <endless.summer.nz@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 >> To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> < >> CABpAEc1PQK_-UKV_HDDFBs+D3VmFCUgJ3aJudBsuxcSJUO+v-A@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> It's great to see the RC Register online at last, Unfortunately not back >> far enough for my Grandmother. >> However I am still on the search for my other Ancestor who left Tyrone in >> 1846 for USA. He died in an accident on 14 June 1848 and was buried in the >> Franklin Cemetery Kensington PA. I would have thought it to be a Coroners >> case. >> However I can not find him on the Cemetery buriel list,although I >> understand the Cemetery was eventually built over and turned into a >> Playground.How shocking. Some bodies were removed, but I wouldn't know >> where to start looking. >> No record of the ship he left Ireland on either so it is a real brick wall >> for me. Wonder if he may have landed in NY first as many of them >> did.Following his death, his Wife and family emigrated to Australia. I >> have >> plenty of info on them fortunately.Any idea >> Also may thanks to listers prior to me going from NZ to Tyrone . >> >> Had a wonderful trip, took many photographs of places my Ancestors had >> walked. The church in Bligh where they married and had family Baptised >> Such a beautiful part of Ireland. Sadly no headstones found. >> Maryanne NZ >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the >> > CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these >> > messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from >> > digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links >> > and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated >> web >> > site. >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. R.C. Parish Registers (Pat H) >> > 2. Hey, Everyone.......... (Jim McKane) >> > 3. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (Mike Kelly) >> > 4. Newly online (Claire K) >> > 5. Re: 3 Reminders from CTI Admin (Judith Hayman) >> > 6. Re: Newly online (K Cooper) >> > 7. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (catherine trewby) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:48:03 +1000 >> > From: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com> >> > Subject: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers >> > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com >> > Message-ID: >> > < >> > CAO7-KqgQEkjirxY8i7KbpOgbUiGqfmryF75fEc5Lty9r0-BRew@mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> > >> > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew >> > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The >> first >> > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant >> > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. >> > church, would that be correct? >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Pat >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 20:41:27 -0400 >> > From: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> >> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Hey, Everyone.......... >> > To: Co Tyrone Ireland <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: >> > < >> > CAHO_rcBXf5gK12umJCV6Ph+UhXk0X9+2nJCQ_Jz33uwtw3hB9g@mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> > >> > ................ let's stay reasonably close to genealogical subjects! >> > >> > Not the news of the day!! >> > >> > Jim >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 3 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:52:26 -0400 >> > From: "Mike Kelly" <michael.kelly@zitomedia.net> >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers >> > To: "Pat H" <patsm2010@gmail.com>, <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <66187F29F45B44E1B55D39F1C8FD8349@MikePC> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >> > reply-type=original >> > >> > I wouldn?t rule anything out when researching. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Michael Kelly >> > >> > Emporium, >> > Cameron County, >> > Pennsylvania, >> > United States of America >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 4 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:40:34 -0400 >> > From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> >> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online >> > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone <CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <47320E18-CA63-46E6-900A-741D37CD34E2@comcast.net> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > >> > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went >> > to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, >> where >> > he joined the British navy for WWI. >> > >> > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may >> > help someone... >> > >> > Claire K >> > >> > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, >> the >> > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been >> > digitised and made available to search for free. >> > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew >> lists, >> > featuring over 750,000 names. >> > >> > >> > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 5 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:50:34 -0400 >> > From: "Judith Hayman" <judithahayman@rogers.com> >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] 3 Reminders from CTI Admin >> > To: "'Clare L. - TyroneIre'" <tyroneire@aol.com> >> > Cc: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> > Message-ID: <000001d0ca7a$e48fe200$adafa600$@com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > >> > Clare, >> > >> > In my (only) ten or so years of experience, this is undoubtedly the >> singly >> > best county web site and discussion group I've encountered. The vast >> array >> > of volunteer input is astounding -- and thank you for all that work! I >> > wish >> > I could to that in some significant way. It is sincerely appreciated. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Judith >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> > http://www.avast.com >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 6 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:18:24 -0700 >> > From: K Cooper <kaperc@gmail.com> >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newly online >> > To: Claire K via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <55b9a591.6164460a.dff62.ffffebd2@mx.google.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> > >> > This is a good suggestion. >> > >> > My grandfather apparently went to South Africa from Co. Tyrone in order >> to >> > earn money to marry my grandmother. If I had not had the story from my >> > uncle, I wouldn?t have had any idea where to look for him. He worked for >> > his passage in Abbeyleix, Queen's Co., where I found him on the census >> in >> > 1901, a ?shopman.? Eventually I found the passenger lists for both the >> trip >> > to and from South Africa and then on to Philadelphia. He wasn?t in the >> > Merchant Navy (he was a grocer his entire life), but it just shows how >> far >> > afield we sometimes have to go to find our missing ancestors! >> > >> > I agree with an earlier list member ? this is the best list I have ever >> > belonged to and the website has helped me so much. Thanks to everyone >> who >> > contributes! >> > >> > Kathleen >> > >> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Claire K via >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:43 PM >> > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone >> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online >> > >> > >> > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went >> > to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, >> where >> > he joined the British navy for WWI. >> > >> > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may >> > help someone... >> > >> > Claire K >> > >> > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, >> the >> > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been >> > digitised and made available to search for free. >> > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew >> lists, >> > featuring over 750,000 names. >> > >> > >> > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > ------------- >> > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 7 >> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:58:27 +1200 >> > From: catherine trewby <ctrewby@clear.net.nz> >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers >> > To: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com>, COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com >> > Message-ID: <D1E01643.1DF1%ctrewby@clear.net.nz> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> > >> > Not necessarily correct that they would have married in R C church. May >> > have married in her church, particularly if her father was high up in >> the >> > church, the family was well known in their township and well known to >> > worship in CI church but with the understanding that any children from >> the >> > marriage were baptised and brought up Catholic. Or they may not have >> > married before but may have married after...I would also look carefully >> for >> > a marriage around the time of the baptisms of the children as some times >> > the >> > marriage was regularised at the same time. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Cathy >> > >> > >> > On 30/07/15 11:48 AM, "Pat H via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew >> > > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The >> > first >> > > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant >> > > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. >> > > church, would that be correct? >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > >> > > Pat >> > > ------------- >> > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. >> > >> > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. >> > >> > __________________________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com >> > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> > of the >> > email with no additional text. >> > >> > >> > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 >> > ************************************************ >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 20:35:47 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Trudy Barbisan <barbisantl@q.com> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 >> To: Maryanne Bayliss <endless.summer.nz@gmail.com> >> Cc: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> < >> 1845326643.382266.1438302947977.JavaMail.root@md27.quartz.synacor.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Maryanne, >> >> Here is current information on your Franklin Cemetery: >> >> Franklin Cemetery (Established 1840) >> Pelham & Elkhart Streets - now a playground >> (removed to Evergreen Memorial Park, Bensalem twp, PA) >> >> So: >> >> Rosedale Memorial Park (Formerly Evergreen Memorial Park) >> (Evergreen Established 1930, Rosedale Established 1960) >> Richlieu Rd >> Bensalem PA 19020 (just northwest of Philadelphia in Bucks County) >> 215-375-0308 >> >> There are a lot of listings on Find A Grave here: >> >> Find A Grave: Rosedale Memorial Park >> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1996776 >> Find a Grave >> Cemetery notes and/or description: This cemetery was formerly Evergreen >> Memorial Park. Everegreen was established in 1930, Rosedale was established >> ... >> >> Hope this helps >> Trudy >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Maryanne Bayliss via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 5:05:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 >> >> It's great to see the RC Register online at last, Unfortunately not back >> far enough for my Grandmother. >> However I am still on the search for my other Ancestor who left Tyrone in >> 1846 for USA. He died in an accident on 14 June 1848 and was buried in the >> Franklin Cemetery Kensington PA. I would have thought it to be a Coroners >> case. >> However I can not find him on the Cemetery buriel list,although I >> understand the Cemetery was eventually built over and turned into a >> Playground.How shocking. Some bodies were removed, but I wouldn't know >> where to start looking. >> No record of the ship he left Ireland on either so it is a real brick wall >> for me. Wonder if he may have landed in NY first as many of them >> did.Following his death, his Wife and family emigrated to Australia. I >> have >> plenty of info on them fortunately.Any idea >> Also may thanks to listers prior to me going from NZ to Tyrone . >> >> Had a wonderful trip, took many photographs of places my Ancestors had >> walked. The church in Bligh where they married and had family Baptised >> Such a beautiful part of Ireland. Sadly no headstones found. >> Maryanne NZ >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the >> > CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these >> > messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from >> > digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see >> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links >> > and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated >> web >> > site. >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. R.C. Parish Registers (Pat H) >> > 2. Hey, Everyone.......... (Jim McKane) >> > 3. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (Mike Kelly) >> > 4. Newly online (Claire K) >> > 5. Re: 3 Reminders from CTI Admin (Judith Hayman) >> > 6. Re: Newly online (K Cooper) >> > 7. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (catherine trewby) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:48:03 +1000 >> > From: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com> >> > Subject: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers >> > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com >> > Message-ID: >> > < >> > CAO7-KqgQEkjirxY8i7KbpOgbUiGqfmryF75fEc5Lty9r0-BRew@mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> > >> > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew >> > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The >> first >> > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant >> > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. >> > church, would that be correct? >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Pat >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 20:41:27 -0400 >> > From: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> >> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Hey, Everyone.......... >> > To: Co Tyrone Ireland <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: >> > < >> > CAHO_rcBXf5gK12umJCV6Ph+UhXk0X9+2nJCQ_Jz33uwtw3hB9g@mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> > >> > ................ let's stay reasonably close to genealogical subjects! >> > >> > Not the news of the day!! >> > >> > Jim >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 3 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:52:26 -0400 >> > From: "Mike Kelly" <michael.kelly@zitomedia.net> >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers >> > To: "Pat H" <patsm2010@gmail.com>, <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <66187F29F45B44E1B55D39F1C8FD8349@MikePC> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; >> > reply-type=original >> > >> > I wouldn?t rule anything out when researching. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Michael Kelly >> > >> > Emporium, >> > Cameron County, >> > Pennsylvania, >> > United States of America >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 4 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:40:34 -0400 >> > From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> >> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online >> > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone <CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <47320E18-CA63-46E6-900A-741D37CD34E2@comcast.net> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > >> > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went >> > to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, >> where >> > he joined the British navy for WWI. >> > >> > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may >> > help someone... >> > >> > Claire K >> > >> > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, >> the >> > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been >> > digitised and made available to search for free. >> > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew >> lists, >> > featuring over 750,000 names. >> > >> > >> > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 5 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:50:34 -0400 >> > From: "Judith Hayman" <judithahayman@rogers.com> >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] 3 Reminders from CTI Admin >> > To: "'Clare L. - TyroneIre'" <tyroneire@aol.com> >> > Cc: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> > Message-ID: <000001d0ca7a$e48fe200$adafa600$@com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> > >> > Clare, >> > >> > In my (only) ten or so years of experience, this is undoubtedly the >> singly >> > best county web site and discussion group I've encountered. The vast >> array >> > of volunteer input is astounding -- and thank you for all that work! I >> > wish >> > I could to that in some significant way. It is sincerely appreciated. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Judith >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> > http://www.avast.com >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 6 >> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:18:24 -0700 >> > From: K Cooper <kaperc@gmail.com> >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newly online >> > To: Claire K via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> > Message-ID: <55b9a591.6164460a.dff62.ffffebd2@mx.google.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> > >> > This is a good suggestion. >> > >> > My grandfather apparently went to South Africa from Co. Tyrone in order >> to >> > earn money to marry my grandmother. If I had not had the story from my >> > uncle, I wouldn?t have had any idea where to look for him. He worked for >> > his passage in Abbeyleix, Queen's Co., where I found him on the census >> in >> > 1901, a ?shopman.? Eventually I found the passenger lists for both the >> trip >> > to and from South Africa and then on to Philadelphia. He wasn?t in the >> > Merchant Navy (he was a grocer his entire life), but it just shows how >> far >> > afield we sometimes have to go to find our missing ancestors! >> > >> > I agree with an earlier list member ? this is the best list I have ever >> > belonged to and the website has helped me so much. Thanks to everyone >> who >> > contributes! >> > >> > Kathleen >> > >> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Claire K via >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:43 PM >> > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone >> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online >> > >> > >> > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went >> > to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, >> where >> > he joined the British navy for WWI. >> > >> > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may >> > help someone... >> > >> > Claire K >> > >> > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, >> the >> > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been >> > digitised and made available to search for free. >> > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew >> lists, >> > featuring over 750,000 names. >> > >> > >> > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > ------------- >> > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 7 >> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:58:27 +1200 >> > From: catherine trewby <ctrewby@clear.net.nz> >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers >> > To: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com>, COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com >> > Message-ID: <D1E01643.1DF1%ctrewby@clear.net.nz> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> > >> > Not necessarily correct that they would have married in R C church. May >> > have married in her church, particularly if her father was high up in >> the >> > church, the family was well known in their township and well known to >> > worship in CI church but with the understanding that any children from >> the >> > marriage were baptised and brought up Catholic. Or they may not have >> > married before but may have married after...I would also look carefully >> for >> > a marriage around the time of the baptisms of the children as some times >> > the >> > marriage was regularised at the same time. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Cathy >> > >> > >> > On 30/07/15 11:48 AM, "Pat H via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> > >> > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew >> > > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The >> > first >> > > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant >> > > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. >> > > church, would that be correct? >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > >> > > Pat >> > > ------------- >> > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. >> > >> > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. >> > >> > __________________________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com >> > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> > of the >> > email with no additional text. >> > >> > >> > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 >> > ************************************************ >> > >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 161 >> ************************************************ >> > >

The power of the listers, once again. Such generosity of spirit from Ellen Elliott to send all those possible websites. > > Good hunting! > > Ellen > > > > > > > > >

It's great to see the RC Register online at last, Unfortunately not back far enough for my Grandmother. However I am still on the search for my other Ancestor who left Tyrone in 1846 for USA. He died in an accident on 14 June 1848 and was buried in the Franklin Cemetery Kensington PA. I would have thought it to be a Coroners case. However I can not find him on the Cemetery buriel list,although I understand the Cemetery was eventually built over and turned into a Playground.How shocking. Some bodies were removed, but I wouldn't know where to start looking. No record of the ship he left Ireland on either so it is a real brick wall for me. Wonder if he may have landed in NY first as many of them did.Following his death, his Wife and family emigrated to Australia. I have plenty of info on them fortunately.Any idea Also may thanks to listers prior to me going from NZ to Tyrone . Had a wonderful trip, took many photographs of places my Ancestors had walked. The church in Bligh where they married and had family Baptised Such a beautiful part of Ireland. Sadly no headstones found. Maryanne NZ On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the > CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these > messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from > digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links > and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated web > site. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. R.C. Parish Registers (Pat H) > 2. Hey, Everyone.......... (Jim McKane) > 3. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (Mike Kelly) > 4. Newly online (Claire K) > 5. Re: 3 Reminders from CTI Admin (Judith Hayman) > 6. Re: Newly online (K Cooper) > 7. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (catherine trewby) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:48:03 +1000 > From: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > CAO7-KqgQEkjirxY8i7KbpOgbUiGqfmryF75fEc5Lty9r0-BRew@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The first > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. > church, would that be correct? > > Cheers > > Pat > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 20:41:27 -0400 > From: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Hey, Everyone.......... > To: Co Tyrone Ireland <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > CAHO_rcBXf5gK12umJCV6Ph+UhXk0X9+2nJCQ_Jz33uwtw3hB9g@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > ................ let's stay reasonably close to genealogical subjects! > > Not the news of the day!! > > Jim > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:52:26 -0400 > From: "Mike Kelly" <michael.kelly@zitomedia.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers > To: "Pat H" <patsm2010@gmail.com>, <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <66187F29F45B44E1B55D39F1C8FD8349@MikePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > I wouldn?t rule anything out when researching. > > Regards, > > Michael Kelly > > Emporium, > Cameron County, > Pennsylvania, > United States of America > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:40:34 -0400 > From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone <CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <47320E18-CA63-46E6-900A-741D37CD34E2@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went > to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, where > he joined the British navy for WWI. > > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may > help someone... > > Claire K > > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, the > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been > digitised and made available to search for free. > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew lists, > featuring over 750,000 names. > > > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:50:34 -0400 > From: "Judith Hayman" <judithahayman@rogers.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] 3 Reminders from CTI Admin > To: "'Clare L. - TyroneIre'" <tyroneire@aol.com> > Cc: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000001d0ca7a$e48fe200$adafa600$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Clare, > > In my (only) ten or so years of experience, this is undoubtedly the singly > best county web site and discussion group I've encountered. The vast array > of volunteer input is astounding -- and thank you for all that work! I > wish > I could to that in some significant way. It is sincerely appreciated. > > Best, > > Judith > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:18:24 -0700 > From: K Cooper <kaperc@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newly online > To: Claire K via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <55b9a591.6164460a.dff62.ffffebd2@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > This is a good suggestion. > > My grandfather apparently went to South Africa from Co. Tyrone in order to > earn money to marry my grandmother. If I had not had the story from my > uncle, I wouldn?t have had any idea where to look for him. He worked for > his passage in Abbeyleix, Queen's Co., where I found him on the census in > 1901, a ?shopman.? Eventually I found the passenger lists for both the trip > to and from South Africa and then on to Philadelphia. He wasn?t in the > Merchant Navy (he was a grocer his entire life), but it just shows how far > afield we sometimes have to go to find our missing ancestors! > > I agree with an earlier list member ? this is the best list I have ever > belonged to and the website has helped me so much. Thanks to everyone who > contributes! > > Kathleen > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Claire K via > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:43 PM > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online > > > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went > to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, where > he joined the British navy for WWI. > > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may > help someone... > > Claire K > > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, the > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been > digitised and made available to search for free. > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew lists, > featuring over 750,000 names. > > > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ > > Sent from my iPhone > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:58:27 +1200 > From: catherine trewby <ctrewby@clear.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers > To: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com>, COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <D1E01643.1DF1%ctrewby@clear.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Not necessarily correct that they would have married in R C church. May > have married in her church, particularly if her father was high up in the > church, the family was well known in their township and well known to > worship in CI church but with the understanding that any children from the > marriage were baptised and brought up Catholic. Or they may not have > married before but may have married after...I would also look carefully for > a marriage around the time of the baptisms of the children as some times > the > marriage was regularised at the same time. > > Cheers > > Cathy > > > On 30/07/15 11:48 AM, "Pat H via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew > > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The > first > > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant > > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. > > church, would that be correct? > > > > Cheers > > > > Pat > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 > ************************************************ >

Philadelphia was a popular port of immigration as well and I would imagine if he was there and working he came in there and not New York. Otherwise he may have very well found work in NY unless there was family located in Philly prior to his arrival. What was his name? Give me his information and I will see what I can dig up. Regards, Michael Kelly Emporium, Cameron County, Pennsylvania, United States of America

If the marriage of your forebears took place in a parish church (Church of Ireland) it will be locatable on FamilySearch; the Irish civil registration indexes are available for online searching - however you will need to know the registration district for accuracy. Protestant marriages were registered from 1845 - Catholic events did not fall within civil registration until 1864. Marriages generally took place in the church of the bride's family. Hope this opens a new avenue for your research, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia > > > > On 30/07/15 11:48 AM, "Pat H via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew > > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The first > > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant > > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. > > church, would that be correct? > > > > Cheers > > > > Pat > > >

Hi, Maryanne - Unfortunately, your guy came over in between the 1840 and 1850 Federal censuses; perhaps county census was taken in an off year. Many states had them. I am sending you several links but be forewarned some may no longer be active. This list is very busy but overall even rootsweb lists are ghost towns. I have not been on most of these sites, but you made me realize I haven't tried hard enough to find my Owen Treanor from Ulster (probably County Down based on his brother's tombstone). Thanks for the unknowing nudge. :-) Be careful of any site asking for money and promising you vital records. You most likely will have to pay I recommend you work directly with the official website listed next: THIS IS THE OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT WEBSITE FOR WESTMORELAND COUNTY (WHERE KENSINGTON IS LOCATED). http://www.co.westmoreland.pa.us/index.aspx?nid=333 - death records, wills and link to other vital records. http://www.co.westmoreland.pa.us/index.aspx?NID=1572 http://www.archives.com/genealogy/vital-records-westmoreland-county-pa.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Kensington,_Pennsylvania - background on Kensington that is now part of greater Philadelphia. He may have sailed directly to Philly, my Irish great grand uncle did. There has always been a large port there. Ship records are very scanty and are held at NARA in Washington DC. It falls under Westmoreland county. http://www.co.westmoreland.pa.us/index.aspx?NID=152 - Court House may have early records. Effective April 13, 2015, exact payment must be included with any document(s) sent for recording. If you have questions in regards to any of the above fees, or need assistance in calculating fees prior to sending your document(s), you are encouraged to contact us at (724) 830-3518 or email ROD@co.westmoreland.pa.us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Library_of_Philadelphia - the library did not open until 1894 but their research department, assuming they have one, may have some records or old newspapers. Or know where to direct you. I'd suggest you contact Catholic churches listed in one of these links. http://www.pa-roots.com/westmoreland/ - Westmoreland County Genealogy Project has many sources listed. https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Westmoreland_County,_Pennsylvania_Gen ealogy - the Mormon site. http://www.pagenweb.org/~westmoreland/ http://genealogytrails.com/penn/westmoreland/ http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/USA/PA/Westmoreland/ http://usgwarchives.net/pa/westmoreland/ http://www.westmorelandhistory.org/genealogy/index.cfm https://genpa.org/county/westmoreland-county-pennsylvania http://www.interment.net/us/pa/westmoreland.htm http://noel.mcn.org/Westmoreland/Westmoreland.htm http://www.pa-roots.org/data/list.php?841 Good hunting! Ellen -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maryanne Bayliss via Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:06 PM To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 It's great to see the RC Register online at last, Unfortunately not back far enough for my Grandmother. However I am still on the search for my other Ancestor who left Tyrone in 1846 for USA. He died in an accident on 14 June 1848 and was buried in the Franklin Cemetery Kensington PA. I would have thought it to be a Coroners case. However I can not find him on the Cemetery buriel list,although I understand the Cemetery was eventually built over and turned into a Playground.How shocking. Some bodies were removed, but I wouldn't know where to start looking. No record of the ship he left Ireland on either so it is a real brick wall for me. Wonder if he may have landed in NY first as many of them did.Following his death, his Wife and family emigrated to Australia. I have plenty of info on them fortunately.Any idea Also may thanks to listers prior to me going from NZ to Tyrone . Had a wonderful trip, took many photographs of places my Ancestors had walked. The church in Bligh where they married and had family Baptised Such a beautiful part of Ireland. Sadly no headstones found. Maryanne NZ On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the > CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive > these messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or > unsubscribe from digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for > links and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our > associated web site. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. R.C. Parish Registers (Pat H) > 2. Hey, Everyone.......... (Jim McKane) > 3. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (Mike Kelly) > 4. Newly online (Claire K) > 5. Re: 3 Reminders from CTI Admin (Judith Hayman) > 6. Re: Newly online (K Cooper) > 7. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (catherine trewby) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:48:03 +1000 > From: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > CAO7-KqgQEkjirxY8i7KbpOgbUiGqfmryF75fEc5Lty9r0-BRew@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The > first baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was > protestant (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. > church, would that be correct? > > Cheers > > Pat > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 20:41:27 -0400 > From: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Hey, Everyone.......... > To: Co Tyrone Ireland <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > CAHO_rcBXf5gK12umJCV6Ph+UhXk0X9+2nJCQ_Jz33uwtw3hB9g@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > ................ let's stay reasonably close to genealogical subjects! > > Not the news of the day!! > > Jim > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:52:26 -0400 > From: "Mike Kelly" <michael.kelly@zitomedia.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers > To: "Pat H" <patsm2010@gmail.com>, <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <66187F29F45B44E1B55D39F1C8FD8349@MikePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > I wouldn?t rule anything out when researching. > > Regards, > > Michael Kelly > > Emporium, > Cameron County, > Pennsylvania, > United States of America > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:40:34 -0400 > From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone <CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <47320E18-CA63-46E6-900A-741D37CD34E2@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative > went to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To > England, where he joined the British navy for WWI. > > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it > may help someone... > > Claire K > > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time > ever, the Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 > have been digitised and made available to search for free. > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew > lists, featuring over 750,000 names. > > > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:50:34 -0400 > From: "Judith Hayman" <judithahayman@rogers.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] 3 Reminders from CTI Admin > To: "'Clare L. - TyroneIre'" <tyroneire@aol.com> > Cc: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000001d0ca7a$e48fe200$adafa600$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Clare, > > In my (only) ten or so years of experience, this is undoubtedly the > singly best county web site and discussion group I've encountered. > The vast array of volunteer input is astounding -- and thank you for > all that work! I wish I could to that in some significant way. It is > sincerely appreciated. > > Best, > > Judith > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:18:24 -0700 > From: K Cooper <kaperc@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newly online > To: Claire K via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <55b9a591.6164460a.dff62.ffffebd2@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > This is a good suggestion. > > My grandfather apparently went to South Africa from Co. Tyrone in > order to earn money to marry my grandmother. If I had not had the > story from my uncle, I wouldn?t have had any idea where to look for > him. He worked for his passage in Abbeyleix, Queen's Co., where I > found him on the census in 1901, a ?shopman.? Eventually I found the > passenger lists for both the trip to and from South Africa and then on > to Philadelphia. He wasn?t in the Merchant Navy (he was a grocer his > entire life), but it just shows how far afield we sometimes have to go to find our missing ancestors! > > I agree with an earlier list member ? this is the best list I have > ever belonged to and the website has helped me so much. Thanks to > everyone who contributes! > > Kathleen > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Claire K via > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:43 PM > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online > > > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative > went to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To > England, where he joined the British navy for WWI. > > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it > may help someone... > > Claire K > > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time > ever, the Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 > have been digitised and made available to search for free. > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew > lists, featuring over 750,000 names. > > > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ > > Sent from my iPhone > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:58:27 +1200 > From: catherine trewby <ctrewby@clear.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers > To: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com>, COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <D1E01643.1DF1%ctrewby@clear.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Not necessarily correct that they would have married in R C church. > May have married in her church, particularly if her father was high up > in the church, the family was well known in their township and well > known to worship in CI church but with the understanding that any > children from the marriage were baptised and brought up Catholic. Or > they may not have married before but may have married after...I would > also look carefully for a marriage around the time of the baptisms of > the children as some times the marriage was regularised at the same > time. > > Cheers > > Cathy > > > On 30/07/15 11:48 AM, "Pat H via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already > > knew about but have not been able to find a marriage for the > > parents. The > first > > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was > > protestant (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. > > church, would that be correct? > > > > Cheers > > > > Pat > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email > to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 > ************************************************ > ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maryanne, Here is current information on your Franklin Cemetery: Franklin Cemetery (Established 1840) Pelham & Elkhart Streets - now a playground (removed to Evergreen Memorial Park, Bensalem twp, PA) So: Rosedale Memorial Park (Formerly Evergreen Memorial Park) (Evergreen Established 1930, Rosedale Established 1960) Richlieu Rd Bensalem PA 19020 (just northwest of Philadelphia in Bucks County) 215-375-0308 There are a lot of listings on Find A Grave here: Find A Grave: Rosedale Memorial Park http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1996776 Find a Grave Cemetery notes and/or description: This cemetery was formerly Evergreen Memorial Park. Everegreen was established in 1930, Rosedale was established ... Hope this helps Trudy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maryanne Bayliss via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 5:05:52 PM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 It's great to see the RC Register online at last, Unfortunately not back far enough for my Grandmother. However I am still on the search for my other Ancestor who left Tyrone in 1846 for USA. He died in an accident on 14 June 1848 and was buried in the Franklin Cemetery Kensington PA. I would have thought it to be a Coroners case. However I can not find him on the Cemetery buriel list,although I understand the Cemetery was eventually built over and turned into a Playground.How shocking. Some bodies were removed, but I wouldn't know where to start looking. No record of the ship he left Ireland on either so it is a real brick wall for me. Wonder if he may have landed in NY first as many of them did.Following his death, his Wife and family emigrated to Australia. I have plenty of info on them fortunately.Any idea Also may thanks to listers prior to me going from NZ to Tyrone . Had a wonderful trip, took many photographs of places my Ancestors had walked. The church in Bligh where they married and had family Baptised Such a beautiful part of Ireland. Sadly no headstones found. Maryanne NZ On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, <cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the > CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these > messages, or wish to search or browse the archives or unsubscribe from > digest mode and subscribe in list mode, see > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html for links > and instructions. See http://cotyroneireland.com/ for our associated web > site. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. R.C. Parish Registers (Pat H) > 2. Hey, Everyone.......... (Jim McKane) > 3. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (Mike Kelly) > 4. Newly online (Claire K) > 5. Re: 3 Reminders from CTI Admin (Judith Hayman) > 6. Re: Newly online (K Cooper) > 7. Re: R.C. Parish Registers (catherine trewby) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:48:03 +1000 > From: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > CAO7-KqgQEkjirxY8i7KbpOgbUiGqfmryF75fEc5Lty9r0-BRew@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The first > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. > church, would that be correct? > > Cheers > > Pat > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 20:41:27 -0400 > From: Jim McKane <jim@mckane.ca> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Hey, Everyone.......... > To: Co Tyrone Ireland <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > CAHO_rcBXf5gK12umJCV6Ph+UhXk0X9+2nJCQ_Jz33uwtw3hB9g@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > ................ let's stay reasonably close to genealogical subjects! > > Not the news of the day!! > > Jim > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:52:26 -0400 > From: "Mike Kelly" <michael.kelly@zitomedia.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers > To: "Pat H" <patsm2010@gmail.com>, <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <66187F29F45B44E1B55D39F1C8FD8349@MikePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > I wouldn?t rule anything out when researching. > > Regards, > > Michael Kelly > > Emporium, > Cameron County, > Pennsylvania, > United States of America > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:40:34 -0400 > From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone <CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <47320E18-CA63-46E6-900A-741D37CD34E2@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went > to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, where > he joined the British navy for WWI. > > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may > help someone... > > Claire K > > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, the > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been > digitised and made available to search for free. > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew lists, > featuring over 750,000 names. > > > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:50:34 -0400 > From: "Judith Hayman" <judithahayman@rogers.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] 3 Reminders from CTI Admin > To: "'Clare L. - TyroneIre'" <tyroneire@aol.com> > Cc: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <000001d0ca7a$e48fe200$adafa600$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Clare, > > In my (only) ten or so years of experience, this is undoubtedly the singly > best county web site and discussion group I've encountered. The vast array > of volunteer input is astounding -- and thank you for all that work! I > wish > I could to that in some significant way. It is sincerely appreciated. > > Best, > > Judith > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 21:18:24 -0700 > From: K Cooper <kaperc@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newly online > To: Claire K via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <55b9a591.6164460a.dff62.ffffebd2@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > This is a good suggestion. > > My grandfather apparently went to South Africa from Co. Tyrone in order to > earn money to marry my grandmother. If I had not had the story from my > uncle, I wouldn?t have had any idea where to look for him. He worked for > his passage in Abbeyleix, Queen's Co., where I found him on the census in > 1901, a ?shopman.? Eventually I found the passenger lists for both the trip > to and from South Africa and then on to Philadelphia. He wasn?t in the > Merchant Navy (he was a grocer his entire life), but it just shows how far > afield we sometimes have to go to find our missing ancestors! > > I agree with an earlier list member ? this is the best list I have ever > belonged to and the website has helped me so much. Thanks to everyone who > contributes! > > Kathleen > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Claire K via > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:43 PM > To: CoTyrone CoTyrone > Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online > > > I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went > to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, where > he joined the British navy for WWI. > > Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may > help someone... > > Claire K > > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, the > Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been > digitised and made available to search for free. > Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew lists, > featuring over 750,000 names. > > > http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ > > Sent from my iPhone > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:58:27 +1200 > From: catherine trewby <ctrewby@clear.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] R.C. Parish Registers > To: Pat H <patsm2010@gmail.com>, COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <D1E01643.1DF1%ctrewby@clear.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Not necessarily correct that they would have married in R C church. May > have married in her church, particularly if her father was high up in the > church, the family was well known in their township and well known to > worship in CI church but with the understanding that any children from the > marriage were baptised and brought up Catholic. Or they may not have > married before but may have married after...I would also look carefully for > a marriage around the time of the baptisms of the children as some times > the > marriage was regularised at the same time. > > Cheers > > Cathy > > > On 30/07/15 11:48 AM, "Pat H via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew > > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The > first > > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant > > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. > > church, would that be correct? > > > > Cheers > > > > Pat > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 160 > ************************************************ > ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --

Not necessarily correct that they would have married in R C church. May have married in her church, particularly if her father was high up in the church, the family was well known in their township and well known to worship in CI church but with the understanding that any children from the marriage were baptised and brought up Catholic. Or they may not have married before but may have married after...I would also look carefully for a marriage around the time of the baptisms of the children as some times the marriage was regularised at the same time. Cheers Cathy On 30/07/15 11:48 AM, "Pat H via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew > about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The first > baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant > (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. > church, would that be correct? > > Cheers > > Pat > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great idea ‹ I didn¹t find my ancestors but I had fun looking. Thank you to all who put such helpful information on CTI! Carol in California On 7/30/15, 8:44 AM, "Nivard Ovington via" <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >Hi all > >I am a firm believer in trying all and every database I can just in case >something pops up, which is often the case > >Just in case some haven't looked, in the England & Wales Probate >Calendars on Ancestry (1858 to 1966 presently) > >A keyword search for Tyrone Ireland gets 3,596 hits as the place of death > >Perhaps worth having a look at > >Just the keyword Ireland gets 121,213 hits > >-- >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >------------- >Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all I am a firm believer in trying all and every database I can just in case something pops up, which is often the case Just in case some haven't looked, in the England & Wales Probate Calendars on Ancestry (1858 to 1966 presently) A keyword search for Tyrone Ireland gets 3,596 hits as the place of death Perhaps worth having a look at Just the keyword Ireland gets 121,213 hits -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I have found three baptisms in the R.C. registers which I already knew about but have not been able to find a marriage for the parents. The first baptism was in 1865. The husband was R.C. but the wife was protestant (Church of Ireland). I am assuming they would have married in the R.C. church, would that be correct? Cheers Pat

Hello Kathleen In my case ...... "My grandfather [also] ...... went to South Africa from Co. Tyrone ........ [where he] marr(ied) my grandmother ...." There is a good online catalogue for South Africa's archives at http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/ (Home page: http://www.national.archives.gov.za/index.htm ) It is quite difficult to use for those not familiar with South Africa and its history, but does turn up information and/or access to [requesting] documents even for those who did not stay long. By all means, drop me an email with some names to <dm60@mweb.co.za> and I will do a quick search for you. Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa (My father grew up in the house "Tyrone", Erin Road, Rondebosch which is a suburb of Cape Town -- sadly demolished in the 1950s) -----Original Message----- From: K Cooper via Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 6:18 AM To: Claire K via Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newly online This is a good suggestion. My grandfather apparently went to South Africa from Co. Tyrone in order to earn money to marry my grandmother. If I had not had the story from my uncle, I wouldn’t have had any idea where to look for him. He worked for his passage in Abbeyleix, Queen's Co., where I found him on the census in 1901, a “shopman.” Eventually I found the passenger lists for both the trip to and from South Africa and then on to Philadelphia. He wasn’t in the Merchant Navy (he was a grocer his entire life), but it just shows how far afield we sometimes have to go to find our missing ancestors! I agree with an earlier list member – this is the best list I have ever belonged to and the website has helped me so much. Thanks to everyone who contributes! Kathleen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Claire K via Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:43 PM To: CoTyrone CoTyrone Subject: [CoTyIre] Newly online I saw this on another list, where someone said their Irish relative went to the U.S., and is on this database going from the U.S. To England, where he joined the British navy for WWI. Not that everyone's Irish relations would have done the same, but it may help someone... Claire K Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy - 1915 For the first time ever, the Crew Lists of the British Merchant Navy from the year 1915 have been digitised and made available to search for free. Find relatives and loved ones via our database of over 39,000 crew lists, featuring over 750,000 names. http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/ Sent from my iPhone ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Clare, In my (only) ten or so years of experience, this is undoubtedly the singly best county web site and discussion group I've encountered. The vast array of volunteer input is astounding -- and thank you for all that work! I wish I could to that in some significant way. It is sincerely appreciated. Best, Judith --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com