Find My Past can be spotty, but I did find some useful information. Caveat most of that was on relatives from south of the border. A lot of what they have for Northern Ireland duplicates items available for free on other sites (PRONI for street directories and will calendars, Family Search for BMD's). BUT, I note that the BMD databases are not identical and there are a few items on FMP not duplicated on Family Search. Now I'm taking the same approach with FMP as I do with RootsIreland: I organize my research and sign up for one month, Ireland only, working fairly intensively. Since I already have Ancestry World Deluxe (and if I didn't could easily access it at several locations), and Family Search is free, it just doesn't make monetary sense to have another program, with much less capacity except occasionally. Judith --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Dear Larry and Debbie, Echoing Len's thoughts, it would be great if you could share the general information recorded in the c1830 & 1864 Dromore Presbyterian censuses. By sharing your knowledge about such lesser-known sources, you could be helping others locate a record which could be a key to unlocking more ancestral information. ~Clare Ass't List Admin > Len Swindley via wrote: > > Hello Larry & Debbie, > Are you able to tell the list what information is contained in the c1830 & 1864 Dromore Presbyterian censuses? Names and ages of members and their children AND townlands? > Do you have any data that you may like to share with the list? > Regards, > Len Swindley > >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:46:55 -0600 >>> From: "Larry and Debbie MacDonald" >>> >>> I found the 1830 and 1864 church census for Dromore Presbyterian on the >>> Emerald Ancestors website. >>> >>> "Church censuses as such were unknown in Presbyterian congregations, >>> although occasionally a minister would list member families and their >>> townlands; these are generally located in the kirk session records, but not >>> always. >>> >>> Such records within Presbyterian churches are rather rare. Where they have >>> survived they are recorded within PRONI's online Guide to Church Records."

I imagine everyone's experience is different, but I've tried Find My Past 3 times and didn't come up with anything helpful. That included when I attended The National Genealogy Conference in Richmond Virginia last year and Find My Past employees tried to help me but there was nothing in their database. Again, I was just looking for a single surname TRENOR/TREANOR/TRAINOR - specifically, Hugh Trenor/Treanor, wife Catherine Sherlock. He born in County Down 1802. She born Ireland parts unknown around 1804. They married September 16, 1828; lived in London until about 1832 at which time they immigrated to Toronto, Canada (and on to Dubuque Iowa in 1836 where he died in 1880). As I have their wedding date I was hopeful I could find the record if not in Ireland then in England. It was (per family folklore) an elopement so maybe not married in Catholic church which should have made the search easier. He had at least two brothers - Owen & James both of whom immigrated by 1855. (although they left their families behind and at least, Owen planned to go back for them). Nothing more is known of them. One day.... Ellen -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mmarion via Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:59 PM To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Find my Past I am researching in Bracky, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. I have been getting emails that Find My Past has Irish info. Just wondering if anyone likes etc. Any advice? I find that many sites just don't seem to have much. I don't want to waste my time or money. Margaret Marion ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Four newspaper advertisements state that Thomas Rutledge and Jane Palmer married in Bundoran Church but not where this church was. Last week I took a months subs to Rootsireland in the hope that I could further the Rutledge line but was very disappointed in that they have very few transcriptions for Fermanagh or southern Tyrone. But they did have a transcript of the marriage of Thomas Rutledge to Jane Palmer on 1 August 1861 in the parish/district of Inishmacsaint, Donegal - religion Church of Ireland. The address for Thomas was Kildaton, Scotland (where he was working) and Jane was from Bundoran. When I was searching Google for information on the family I came across a transcription of the marriage records of Finner, Fermanagh done by George Armstrong. This is to be found at http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/churches/finner-mar-coi.htm There was the marriage of Thomas Rutledge to Jane Palmer with exactly the same details as the marriage record from Inishmacsaint, except that the date in the Finner records was 27 August 1861. Finner I think, is a townland in the parish of Belleek. I am now totally confused. Did they marry in Donegal or Fermanagh? Any assistance with this appreciated. Regards Kerrie

Hi Many thanks to Ray, Len, Dave, Rachel and Nivard for their welcome assistance to my query regarding Thomas Rutledge - excise man. He has been found at TNA - index of entry papers to Excise Officers at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/e xcise-and-inland-revenue-officers/ I have requested a quote for a digested copy so let's hope it's not too expensive. I have another query regarding Thomas which I'll post in a new email. What a great list this is. Thank you all once again. Kerrie

Start with the PRONI website, where you can trace the land from the 1860s to 1930s via the Annual Revisions (online color images, free), which should allow you to link those records to the 1911 & 1901 censuses (on NLI site, free) and the Griffith's Valuation (AskAboutIreland.ie site, free). You shouldn't need FMP to do any of that. Not that FMP isn't useful for other sources... Hope that helps. Claire K Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:28 PM, mmarion via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am looking into 6 Armstrong families of Bracky in the 1860's. I have been trying to link them to the families in the 1911 census and then up to today. > If I though I could go back from 1860- I would like to do that as well. But I am not holding much hope for that. > So Find my past, useful for Northern Ireland, or just the republic? > Margaret Marion > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Genetic Genealogy Ireland conference in conjunction with Back to Our Past. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Genetic Genealogy Ireland <noreply+feedproxy@google.com> > Date: August 26, 2015 at 4:16:04 PM EDT > To: seekay@comcast.net > Subject: Genetic Genealogy Ireland 2013 > Reply-To: Genetic Genealogy Ireland <noreply@blogger.com> > > > Genetic Genealogy Ireland 2013 > The "first look" DNA Lecture Schedule for GGI2015 > Posted: 25 Aug 2015 08:17 PM PDT > Here it is folks. We promised you a wonderful lineup for this year's Genetic Genealogy Ireland and here it is - well, at least a close to final draft. The final line-up will be available in about 2 weeks time. > > The DNA Lecture Schedule > > This provisional schedule will change only in so much as the lecture timings may be slightly rearranged, the lecture titles (which are abbreviated for now) will be given their full title, and the Mystery Guest will be revealed. > > > click to enlarge > > So what can we expect on Day 1? > > The theme this year is: Who are the Irish? And we have several learned colleagues addressing this specific subject. We are very lucky to have Professor James Mallory (Queens University Belfast) join us for the first time. His 2013 book "The Origins of the Irish" was an instant bestseller and is a must-read for everyone with an interest in the archaeological, linguistic, and genetic evidence that underlies current theories regarding the first peoples of Ireland. If we are lucky he will be signing a few copies of his book at the FTDNA stand. > > > Available at Amazon.com > > We also see the welcome return of Prof Dan Bradley from Trinity College Dublin who will discuss some of the recent findings from ancient DNA research. One of Prof Bradley's research interests is the origins and spread of modern humans during the Late Pleistocene period and he is part of a large Europe-wide project which investigates the evolution and nature of major prehistoric processes which are key to our understanding of what happened in European prehistory. The advent of new genetic technologies has revolutionised the study of ancient DNA, shedding new light on the spread of peoples across Europe and into Ireland. > > > From Phys.Org > The Munster Irish Project has been running for more than 3 years now and has amassed over 400 participants. Much has changed since the early days of the project, when the Men of Munster could be roughly subdivided into three large groups - the Irish Type II, the Irish type III, and the Munster I, defined by the respective terminal SNPs CTS4466, L226 and L362. Today, as NGS and SNP testing advances, the project has many more branches, some moving forward into the second millennium (1000-2000 AD). Thus first millennium tribal entities are gradually being associated with specific second millennium surname groups. > > > Munster Irish Project > DNA is increasingly in the news these days and the media don't always get the stories completely right. Furthermore, there is a tendency to only report the more sensational items, perchance giving the public a biased view on what DNA can and cannot do, and hence the pros and cons of DNA testing. Brad Larkin discusses some of the conundrums thrown up by this type of media coverage and raises the question: how do we deal with this? > > > from metro.co.uk > > And of course, each day at Genetic Genealogy Ireland we have a few lectures devoted entirely to Beginners and people who have recently tested and want to know what to do next. Maurice Gleeson will start the conference with an introductory talk on the basics of DNA testing and how each of the 3 main DNA tests can help answer your specific genealogical questions. This will be followed by Emily Aulicino, accomplished blogger and author of "Genetic Genealogy: the Basics and Beyond", who will guide us through our autosomal DNA results (from the Family Finder test) and will provide hints and tips on how to interpret them and use them most effectively. > > > Available from Amazon > > So the first day will have a wonderful mix of topics and will be a great start to what will no doubt prove to be a fabulous weekend. This is what makes Genetic Genealogy Ireland one of the highpoints of the international genealogical calendar. > > > > > > > > You are subscribed to email updates from Genetic Genealogy Ireland > To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. Email delivery powered by Google > Google Inc., 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, United States

Dear Margaret, we can give better advice if you can tell us what time frame you are interested in for Bracky. With that background, we can tell you if thee are FMP-only collections which might be of interest to you. I look forward to your next post. ~Clare CTI Ass't Admin. > On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:59 PM, mmarion via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am researching in Bracky, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. I have been getting emails that Find My Past has Irish info. Just wondering if anyone likes etc. Any advice? I find that many sites just don't seem to have much. I don't want to waste my time or money. > Margaret Marion > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Kerrie and Ray. Thanks for your input Ray. Taking a look at the TNA records and using the link, I am unable to locate any reference to Irish records. A little known, but interesting resource for Irish family history researchers is the Dublin Gazette, the official publication of the British Administration in Ireland. The National Library of Ireland, Dublin, holds hard copy, bound annually, but unindexed, commencing c1820 and concluding 1922. Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays, the Gazette contained news of judicial appointments, promotions in the military, notices of government business, writs of election, appointments to public offices, commissions and promotions in the army and navy, awards of honours, notices of insolvency and much more. In the absence of survivng records elsewhere in Ireland, the Gazette is invaluable, but research is time-consuming. Personally, I find it absorbing reading. Sadly Kerrie, this publication not available online. Regards, Len > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:59:02 +1000 > To: kerriea@aapt.net.au > CC: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Excise Officers > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Hello Kerrie. > > This doesn’t anwer your question to the list — sorry about that — but my gut feeling is that the information leading to his marriage information, should probably be found in the Birth Certificate in Scotland for his first child. > > The Scots required a lot of information for their registrations of BDM records; so that might assist you, if you don’t already have it. > > BUT getting to your question itself : >>>>>> > > this website gives a lot of valuable information: > > http://www.bhsproject.co.uk/occ_excise.shtml > > >From it I have extracted this for you: > > “ … > Records at TNA - Excise Minute Books > > TNA holds the Excise Minute Books (references starting CUST 47) which describe all changes in personnel in the Excise Service between 1695 and 1874 and so are invaluable to anyone with an ancestor who was an Excise officer. If minute books are searched for the whole career of an Excise man it should be possible to trace all the areas he lived in to carry out his duties and find out when he was promoted. Key points: > Vacant posts were always filled by the transferring in of a suitably trained and experienced officer, often from another area of the country, and each minute describes the chain of moves that might ensue > Each book covers a period of just a few months: for example to search minute books for the whole of 1785 requires looking at 7 minute books > At the start of each book is a surname index by initial letter of surname, each entry includes the forename and page no. (eg there is a page of all 'W' surnames but Woodroofe may appear before Williams and after Wyman) > It is possible to search the surname index in a book in a couple minutes but it takes more time to order and collect the books and note any findings > Sometimes a promotion required the Excise man to move a considerable distance and it must have taken weeks or months to arrange the move, particularly if a number of children were involved (not forgetting the horse!). Occasionally a plan to move an Excise man did not go ahead, due to a change of plan - this will appear in the minutes. > > Where a Collector dies or retires, this can trigger a lot of personnel changes. Whether all the moves happened at once or whether they took place in top down sequence - I am not sure. > > The Bateman books show an Examiner or Surveying General Examiner might be temporarily transferred from the Chief Office in London to provide cover at a country office and there will be a minute ordering this arrangement. Upon the return to work of the recovered officer from my experience there is generally not a minute describing the ending of the cover arrangement. … “ > > ADDITIONALLY, it provides this information too: > > “… > Records at TNA - Other Excise Documents > > The CUST 43 series includes indexed instructions received from the Excise Office London at each District. For example Brentford District letters 1713-1863 are included in CUST 43/1 to 43/16. Only useful if your ancestor was in a senior post and signed letters. Quarterly salary lists, T 44/49. These appear to list quarterly salaries due to Excise men and provides names, grades and amounts, but (apparently) just for the London-based posts. It also includes a list of 'periodical augmentation of salary to officers who have worked more than 10 years in their respective offices'. It takes 15 - 20 minutes to look through the details for one quarter. Top > Records at local archives > > You may find a Sacrament Certificate for your ancestor at local archives dating from around the time he joined the Excise Service. These are witnessed certificates stating the individual had taken Holy Communion. > For example, there is a Sacrament Certificate dated 21 October 1810 at the Isle of Wight Archives for Abraham COTTON, who was 23 at the time, and who became an excise man shortly after. He married Elizabeth BONIFACE on 12 January 1811, shortly after starting in his first Excise position. > > Online sources for Excise ancestors > > Google Books includes full views of the Royal Kalendar for 1797, 1817 and 1866 and snippet views for 1818, 1840 and a few other years (search for 'Royal Kalendar' and a surname). (free) > Google Books contains two full view Excise Manuals by Joseph Bateman, which describes the service and career structure, details the entry requirements, training and examination processes - for 1840 and 1852. Search for ' "joseph bateman" excise '. (free) > > Historical Directories (see Web links) includes trade directories from the early 1800s through to the 1910s. These can be searched by surname or 'Excise' using the keyword facility. (free) > > London Gazette Archives (see Web links), searches are sophisticated, covers 1760s onwards. (free) > > FindMyPast includes censuses, some of which can be searched by occupation. > > Ancestry.co.uk includes trade directories and copies of The Times newspaper to 1835. ..." > > > Hoping this helps. > > Oh, and don’t forget that there is a Ballina in NSW, Oz. > > ray in oz > > > On 26 Aug 2015, at 8:17 pm, Kerrie Alexander via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi > > > > Could anyone tell me how I would find information on Excise Officers? I > have a Thomas Rutledge born c1828 in Tyrone that I am trying to prove was > married in Fermanagh in 1861 to Jane Palmer. His occupation at the time was > Excise Officer. I have found him in 1861 in Argyll, Scotland as an officer > of the Inland revenue, he then returned to Ireland to marry and then went > back to Argyll where his first child was born, his second child was born in > Londonderry in 1864 and I found in an Irish newspapers where he may have > been transferred to Glasgow in 1867. From there I lose track of him but on > an Ancstry.com tree it states he died in 1872 in Ballina which I believe is > in Mayo. > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Kerrie. This doesn’t anwer your question to the list — sorry about that — but my gut feeling is that the information leading to his marriage information, should probably be found in the Birth Certificate in Scotland for his first child. The Scots required a lot of information for their registrations of BDM records; so that might assist you, if you don’t already have it. BUT getting to your question itself : >>>>>> this website gives a lot of valuable information: http://www.bhsproject.co.uk/occ_excise.shtml From it I have extracted this for you: “ … Records at TNA - Excise Minute Books TNA holds the Excise Minute Books (references starting CUST 47) which describe all changes in personnel in the Excise Service between 1695 and 1874 and so are invaluable to anyone with an ancestor who was an Excise officer. If minute books are searched for the whole career of an Excise man it should be possible to trace all the areas he lived in to carry out his duties and find out when he was promoted. Key points: Vacant posts were always filled by the transferring in of a suitably trained and experienced officer, often from another area of the country, and each minute describes the chain of moves that might ensue Each book covers a period of just a few months: for example to search minute books for the whole of 1785 requires looking at 7 minute books At the start of each book is a surname index by initial letter of surname, each entry includes the forename and page no. (eg there is a page of all 'W' surnames but Woodroofe may appear before Williams and after Wyman) It is possible to search the surname index in a book in a couple minutes but it takes more time to order and collect the books and note any findings Sometimes a promotion required the Excise man to move a considerable distance and it must have taken weeks or months to arrange the move, particularly if a number of children were involved (not forgetting the horse!). Occasionally a plan to move an Excise man did not go ahead, due to a change of plan - this will appear in the minutes. Where a Collector dies or retires, this can trigger a lot of personnel changes. Whether all the moves happened at once or whether they took place in top down sequence - I am not sure. The Bateman books show an Examiner or Surveying General Examiner might be temporarily transferred from the Chief Office in London to provide cover at a country office and there will be a minute ordering this arrangement. Upon the return to work of the recovered officer from my experience there is generally not a minute describing the ending of the cover arrangement. … “ ADDITIONALLY, it provides this information too: “… Records at TNA - Other Excise Documents The CUST 43 series includes indexed instructions received from the Excise Office London at each District. For example Brentford District letters 1713-1863 are included in CUST 43/1 to 43/16. Only useful if your ancestor was in a senior post and signed letters. Quarterly salary lists, T 44/49. These appear to list quarterly salaries due to Excise men and provides names, grades and amounts, but (apparently) just for the London-based posts. It also includes a list of 'periodical augmentation of salary to officers who have worked more than 10 years in their respective offices'. It takes 15 - 20 minutes to look through the details for one quarter. Top Records at local archives You may find a Sacrament Certificate for your ancestor at local archives dating from around the time he joined the Excise Service. These are witnessed certificates stating the individual had taken Holy Communion. For example, there is a Sacrament Certificate dated 21 October 1810 at the Isle of Wight Archives for Abraham COTTON, who was 23 at the time, and who became an excise man shortly after. He married Elizabeth BONIFACE on 12 January 1811, shortly after starting in his first Excise position. Online sources for Excise ancestors Google Books includes full views of the Royal Kalendar for 1797, 1817 and 1866 and snippet views for 1818, 1840 and a few other years (search for 'Royal Kalendar' and a surname). (free) Google Books contains two full view Excise Manuals by Joseph Bateman, which describes the service and career structure, details the entry requirements, training and examination processes - for 1840 and 1852. Search for ' "joseph bateman" excise '. (free) Historical Directories (see Web links) includes trade directories from the early 1800s through to the 1910s. These can be searched by surname or 'Excise' using the keyword facility. (free) London Gazette Archives (see Web links), searches are sophisticated, covers 1760s onwards. (free) FindMyPast includes censuses, some of which can be searched by occupation. Ancestry.co.uk includes trade directories and copies of The Times newspaper to 1835. ..." Hoping this helps. Oh, and don’t forget that there is a Ballina in NSW, Oz. ray in oz On 26 Aug 2015, at 8:17 pm, Kerrie Alexander via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hi Could anyone tell me how I would find information on Excise Officers? I have a Thomas Rutledge born c1828 in Tyrone that I am trying to prove was married in Fermanagh in 1861 to Jane Palmer. His occupation at the time was Excise Officer. I have found him in 1861 in Argyll, Scotland as an officer of the Inland revenue, he then returned to Ireland to marry and then went back to Argyll where his first child was born, his second child was born in Londonderry in 1864 and I found in an Irish newspapers where he may have been transferred to Glasgow in 1867. From there I lose track of him but on an Ancstry.com tree it states he died in 1872 in Ballina which I believe is in Mayo.

Hello Kerrie, I queried this same topic at one of the Ulster Historical Foundation's conferences I have attended and was advised that records for Excise Officers/ Revenue Police were destroyed in the firing of the Four Courts in Dublin in 1922. Same story for court records. Regards, Len Swindley,Melbourne, Australia > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:17:22 +1000 > Subject: [CoTyIre] Excise Officers > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Hi > > > > Could anyone tell me how I would find information on Excise Officers? I > have a Thomas Rutledge born c1828 in Tyrone that I am trying to prove was > married in Fermanagh in 1861 to Jane Palmer. His occupation at the time was > Excise Officer. I have found him in 1861 in Argyll, Scotland as an officer > of the Inland revenue, he then returned to Ireland to marry and then went > back to Argyll where his first child was born, his second child was born in > Londonderry in 1864 and I found in an Irish newspapers where he may have > been transferred to Glasgow in 1867. From there I lose track of him but on > an Ancstry.com tree it states he died in 1872 in Ballina which I believe is > in Mayo. > > > > Any information on where to look for records of excise men would be > appreciated. > > > > Regards > > Kerrie > > Australia > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking into 6 Armstrong families of Bracky in the 1860's. I have been trying to link them to the families in the 1911 census and then up to today. If I though I could go back from 1860- I would like to do that as well. But I am not holding much hope for that. So Find my past, useful for Northern Ireland, or just the republic? Margaret Marion

Hi Could anyone tell me how I would find information on Excise Officers? I have a Thomas Rutledge born c1828 in Tyrone that I am trying to prove was married in Fermanagh in 1861 to Jane Palmer. His occupation at the time was Excise Officer. I have found him in 1861 in Argyll, Scotland as an officer of the Inland revenue, he then returned to Ireland to marry and then went back to Argyll where his first child was born, his second child was born in Londonderry in 1864 and I found in an Irish newspapers where he may have been transferred to Glasgow in 1867. From there I lose track of him but on an Ancstry.com tree it states he died in 1872 in Ballina which I believe is in Mayo. Any information on where to look for records of excise men would be appreciated. Regards Kerrie Australia

Margaret, I have had a World sub to FMP.com for several years and find it very useful for my Irish research. Your experience may vary - as I have heard a few people say it didn't help them. One thing I like is the loyalty discount for renewing. I began my subscription with a discount from Lost Cousins newsletter and it has remained the same - so you might want to check around for any deals right now. Try the coupon sites or a genealogy society. My gen society just signed up for FMP's society discount for our members and it is 50% off. Hope that helps. Good luck, Kathleen On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:59 PM, mmarion via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am researching in Bracky, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. I have been > getting emails that Find My Past has Irish info. Just wondering if anyone > likes etc. Any advice? I find that many sites just don't seem to have > much. I don't want to waste my time or money. > Margaret Marion > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Cuimhnigh ar na daoine ónar tháinig tú* *"Remember the men whence you came."*

I am researching in Bracky, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. I have been getting emails that Find My Past has Irish info. Just wondering if anyone likes etc. Any advice? I find that many sites just don't seem to have much. I don't want to waste my time or money. Margaret Marion

*Abercorn Estate* - Burgesses of the Town of *Strabane* 1730-55 <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_burgess.html> *Abercorn Estate* - Petition to the Earl of Abercorn from the Provost & Burgesses of the Corporation of* Strabane* & The Minister and Churchwardens of the Parish, MARCH 27, 1753 <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/estates/abercorn_petition.html> *Spence* Family Notes, Cos. Tyrone & Donegal 1822-1867 <http://www.cotyroneireland.com/surnames/spence.html>

Hi Kerrie I can see the man you mention in 1861 Scotland, he is transcribed as 25 have you seen the page image to see if its a transcription error? More for an elimination than anything else In 1881 Springfield Terrace, High Street, Campbeltown, Argyllshire There is a Thomas RUTTLEDGE 36 an Excise Officer in Revenue born Co Mayo Ireland Wife Elizabeth R 31 born Forfarshire children Frances M RUTTLEDGE 8 William W RUTTLEDGE 6 England Thomas Webster RUTTLEDGE 3 Arygyleshire Scotland Jane Ann LAWSON sis in law 23 Forfarshire Janet MCMURCHY servabt 14 Cambeltown Argylshire In 1891 in Kenwyn Truro Cornwall Thomas Ruttledge 44 Supervisor Of Inland Revenue Ireland Elizabeth Ruttledge 41 Scotland Reginald George Ruttledge 5 Truro, Cornwall In 1901 in Islington London Thomas Ruttledge 55 Supervisor Of Inland Revenue (Excise) Ireland Reginald G Ruttledge 15 Student Truro, Cornwall Albert Maddocks Boarder 34 Woollen Merchant Shropshire William J Williams Boarder 22 Shorthand Typist Llannon, Caernarvonshire, Wales Thomas L Robert Boarder 19 Boy Copyist Inland Revenue Merionethshire, Wales Eliza J Miners Servant 37 Housekeeper Domestic Truro, Cornwall Winifred P Miners Servant 16 General Servant Domestic Penweathers, Cornwall (I suspect the same man single in 1871 is in Kirriemuir Forfarshire, transcribed as born England age 26 Officer of Inland Revenue) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/08/2015 11:17, Kerrie Alexander via wrote: > Hi > > > > Could anyone tell me how I would find information on Excise Officers? I > have a Thomas Rutledge born c1828 in Tyrone that I am trying to prove was > married in Fermanagh in 1861 to Jane Palmer. His occupation at the time was > Excise Officer. I have found him in 1861 in Argyll, Scotland as an officer > of the Inland revenue, he then returned to Ireland to marry and then went > back to Argyll where his first child was born, his second child was born in > Londonderry in 1864 and I found in an Irish newspapers where he may have > been transferred to Glasgow in 1867. From there I lose track of him but on > an Ancstry.com tree it states he died in 1872 in Ballina which I believe is > in Mayo. > > > > Any information on where to look for records of excise men would be > appreciated. > > > > Regards > > Kerrie > > Australia

Beginning in 1855, Castle Garden / Castle Clinton was the NYC emigration station. Passenger manifests are on the usual pay sites (ancestry, etc.) and on the free Castle Garden site -- CastleGarden.org -- as well as on microfilm at the U.S. National Archives, also available through the LDS. If you're asking if there are emigration records IN IRELAND of the people who left on each ship, no. The usual process is that the manifest was created at the port of departure, traveled with the ship, and was turned in at the port of arrival, where it was used to process the people disembarking. Claire K Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Paul Kelly via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello Tyrone listers, > > Does anyone know of any existing passenger lists from Queenstown (to New York) between 1857 and 1859? > > > Paul Kelly > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are records in the National Archives in Kew, London. This is the general info on Excise records http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/excise-and-inland-revenue-officers/ If you search on Thomas Rutledge in the catalogue there is a reference to a Thomas Rutledge in 'Entry papers for excise men'. Ref CUST 116/65/36 Rachel -----Original Message----- From: Kerrie Alexander via Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:17 AM To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Excise Officers Hi Could anyone tell me how I would find information on Excise Officers? I have a Thomas Rutledge born c1828 in Tyrone that I am trying to prove was married in Fermanagh in 1861 to Jane Palmer. His occupation at the time was Excise Officer. I have found him in 1861 in Argyll, Scotland as an officer of the Inland revenue, he then returned to Ireland to marry and then went back to Argyll where his first child was born, his second child was born in Londonderry in 1864 and I found in an Irish newspapers where he may have been transferred to Glasgow in 1867. From there I lose track of him but on an Ancstry.com tree it states he died in 1872 in Ballina which I believe is in Mayo. Any information on where to look for records of excise men would be appreciated. Regards Kerrie Australia ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Tyrone listers, Does anyone know of any existing passenger lists from Queenstown (to New York) between 1857 and 1859? Paul Kelly