Hello Jim McKane and Boyd and list. I think that an edited version of Boyd’s reply would go very well on the CTI web-site. It would then make a good ‘go to” for anyone to refer new Tyrone researchers to; and would save a lot of repetitive typing time. I am thinking of a ‘subject’ heading something like: “Starting Tyrone Research”, or maybe just “Starting Your Research”. (I tried to edit it myself, but felt that Boyd might not be too happy with my messing around with it, so deleted it all instead! haha.) On a slightly different tangent, it was pointed out to me a while back that the CTI list has a GUESTBOOK on its header-line. If you click on that, whilst there is a provision to sign the guestbook; there is a small provision at the bottom of the page, to "VIEW the GUESTBOOK". When one clicks on that "VIEW THE GUESTBOOK" link, one finds LOTS of entries about their families, by people who have visited the CTI website. It was suggested to me that responding to those guestbook entries suggesting that they join the CTI list and post their family queries to the list, might assist those people who might otherwise receive no feedback from their Guestbook entry. Unfortunately I no longer have the time to be able to attempt to do this, but I am posting the suggestion to the list, in the hope that some list members might have the time and the interest. Thanks as always to our wonderful volunteer stalwarts who keep this list and the CTI website running so well, to the advantage of all of us. Regards to all. Ray in Oz On 3 Sep 2015, at 9:15 pm, Boyd Gray via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Boyd Gray via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> To: 'rbsampson' <rbsampson@yahoo.com> CC: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:35 Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research Hi Rocky, What you are asking for is a very tall order. And I am not sure you are actually asking the right question anyway. If you trawl the internet, you will find endless sources of hints and tips on how to research Irish genealogy and if you trawl the internet you will find endless sources of data and links to data that will enable you to do this research. County Tyrone is one of the best endowed counties in the whole of Ireland thanks to the work of Jim McKane, Len Swindley and others, who have created a website (called CTI) that has everything you will ever need to research your Tyrone ancestry. Here it is: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/ And you will be able to do it all from the comfort of your own home in Main Street, Canada. And that is really what your cousin needs to do. Instead of "prepping to do genealogy" when she comes to Ireland, she needs to do the genealogy in Canada in preparation for when she actually comes to Ireland. Then she can enjoy the fruits of her labours and add to what she has already discovered by visiting the area, speaking to locals and checking church records, which are generally not online. The starting point for all Irish folks whose ancestors emigrated to the diaspora is the Griffiths Valuation (GV) of circa 1858, even if they left before that date. I say this for three reasons 1. There are very few useful records before this survey 2. It covers every family in Ireland and thus the folks "left behind" by the émigrés should be there 3. It is searchable online. And in order to search the GV you need to know the name of the townland where your folks lived. Mountfield is not a townland. Google, that essential genealogical research tool, tells me that it is "a small village in the townland of Aghalane, northeast of Omagh". Insert Aghalane into the GV search box here: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearc h There are none but we can see that Aghalane is in the Parish of Cappagh. So, insert McFadden, Parish of Cappagh, County of Tyrone into the GV search engine and you get this: Griffith's Valuation Record Information Tenant Family Name 1 MCFADDEN Forename 1 THOMAS Landlord Family Name 2 STACK Forename 2 THOMAS L. Prefix REV Location County TYRONE Barony STRABANE, UPPER Union OMAGH Parish CAPPAGH Townland MULLAGHMORE Place Name MULLAGHMORE Place Type TOWNLAND Publication Details Position on Page 6 Printing Date 1860 Act 15&16 Sheet Number 35 Map Reference 19 You wanted a Thomas. This Thomas is actually the ONLY McFadden in the area. He could well be the father of your "clan ancestor", James McFadden. He lived on Plot 19 in the townland of Mullaghmore and the map on the GV website shows that Mullaghmore is between Omagh and Mountfield. Although it is now in the middle of a housing estate, the overlying ariel photograph shows there is still a house on the same spot. Insert Hampton into the GV database and you find that, although Hampton is NOT a very common name in Tyrone, there are in fact eight Hampton families living in the Parish of Cappagh. HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON WILLIAM TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON ANDREW TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON ALEXANDER TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON JAMES TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON JOHN TYRONE CAPPAGH This tells me that you are definitely in the right area. This is only the start. If you use the hints and tips, the data and the links on the CTI website, you will have a much better idea of what your cousin needs to see and find when she eventually arrives in Ireland. And I can think of worse places to start than here: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/videos/monreagh.html Hope this helps, Boyd http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rbsampson via Sent: 03 September 2015 04:59 To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research ---------------------------------- I have a cousin coming to Ireland to research for the first time. I've read in the past posts some hints to use when searching. If anyone can help on where to start and what to look for from towns or cities with archives or church records.... Feel free to share. My cousin is older and will be researching and visiting various places... Stating on Dublin for a while. She wanted some hints and clues from parking to travel and prepping to do genealogy. Our clan ancestor was James McFadden of county Tyrone .... We have some hints as to the village of Mountfield. McPhadden was the spelling of our name back in the 1840s before we came to Canada. Thomas was the father of James but that's all we know so far. A sibling to James McFadden was: Rebecca McFadden who married surname of Hampton in Mountfield Tryone. James mcfadden married a number of time in Canada to native Indian women ( First Nations women). He settled by 1850 in western canada in what is now the province of British Columbia.... In the Gulf Islands. Any dna trivial clues or hints on searching the archives or PRONI will help. Church hints or newspaper lists etc will be great .... Travelling from BC in Canada ... Looking forward to hints and suggestions on this search!! Many kind regards and cheers from Rocky Sampson --------------------------------- Sent from my iPhone ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have to add my comments about going to Ireland to do research first. I used the '10 Step Guide to Researching Ulster Genealogy' when I seriously started my Irish research. It became my Bible. I still go to it when I wonder why is this so in Ireland. I have been doing my family tree long before the internet, mainly in England. I have learned that Ireland is whole different picture. I did my research before I went to Ireland. I used the website askaboutireland to help me take the property I knew my family owned as per the Griffith's valuation in the 1800's and translated it to today's map. We had not done this, we had looked at map's and said, this looks like where we should go. We were off by 5 miles. We were lucky and a man staying at the same bed and breakfast as us, helped us to locate the property I wanted to see on askaboutireland. Lucky us! We went there and to this day, cousins of mine are farming there. That all happened this June. I have come home and done more research and now in October, I am going to Belfast, to spend a few days at PRONI and see more new cousins. In short, 1) watch Boyd's video's on research in Ireland 2) Print out and memorize the 10 step guide 3) Get to know Griffith's valuation. 4) familiarize yourself with the site, askaboutireland. 5) Go through the CoTyrone site and look at EVERYTHING available there. 6) try to find out the Townland your family is from. Just knowing the county is too big, if you want to see where they actually lived etc. If you have not done this before going, go to Ireland, enjoy your trip, you will, the people are fantastic, the scenery is like no where else in the world. Get a feel for the people and the country. When you get home start your research. Don't let the frustrations of trying to do research while on vacation, ruin your vacation. You will be disappointed. Ireland is too beautiful not to enjoy. Speaking from experience, here in Canada. Margaret Marion
Help needed in Perth (W. Australia) Hi folks Apologies for being off-topic (not co. Tyrone per se), but I'm desperately looking for access to a letter dd. 8 March 1831 where a typescript copy is held in the State Library of Western Australia, in Perth. The item is listed in the library’s online catalogue – however Aussie rules determine that I need the help of a local researcher who is personally able to go to the library at the Perth Cultural Centre, 25 Francis Street. All indications are that this is a copy of a letter written to my 3.g-grandmother by one of her younger sons, a merchant navy captain who worked the seas between England and W. Australia (and whose eldest brother had sailed with Flinders on the Investigator). Anyone in Perth or with any contact/s in those parts? Any assistance or guidance would be most appreciated. Sincere thanks Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa
Hi Rocky, What you are asking for is a very tall order. And I am not sure you are actually asking the right question anyway. If you trawl the internet, you will find endless sources of hints and tips on how to research Irish genealogy and if you trawl the internet you will find endless sources of data and links to data that will enable you to do this research. County Tyrone is one of the best endowed counties in the whole of Ireland thanks to the work of Jim McKane, Len Swindley and others, who have created a website (called CTI) that has everything you will ever need to research your Tyrone ancestry. Here it is: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/ And you will be able to do it all from the comfort of your own home in Main Street, Canada. And that is really what your cousin needs to do. Instead of "prepping to do genealogy" when she comes to Ireland, she needs to do the genealogy in Canada in preparation for when she actually comes to Ireland. Then she can enjoy the fruits of her labours and add to what she has already discovered by visiting the area, speaking to locals and checking church records, which are generally not online. The starting point for all Irish folks whose ancestors emigrated to the diaspora is the Griffiths Valuation (GV) of circa 1858, even if they left before that date. I say this for three reasons 1. There are very few useful records before this survey 2. It covers every family in Ireland and thus the folks "left behind" by the émigrés should be there 3. It is searchable online. And in order to search the GV you need to know the name of the townland where your folks lived. Mountfield is not a townland. Google, that essential genealogical research tool, tells me that it is "a small village in the townland of Aghalane, northeast of Omagh". Insert Aghalane into the GV search box here: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearc h There are none but we can see that Aghalane is in the Parish of Cappagh. So, insert McFadden, Parish of Cappagh, County of Tyrone into the GV search engine and you get this: Griffith's Valuation Record Information Tenant Family Name 1 MCFADDEN Forename 1 THOMAS Landlord Family Name 2 STACK Forename 2 THOMAS L. Prefix REV Location County TYRONE Barony STRABANE, UPPER Union OMAGH Parish CAPPAGH Townland MULLAGHMORE Place Name MULLAGHMORE Place Type TOWNLAND Publication Details Position on Page 6 Printing Date 1860 Act 15&16 Sheet Number 35 Map Reference 19 You wanted a Thomas. This Thomas is actually the ONLY McFadden in the area. He could well be the father of your "clan ancestor", James McFadden. He lived on Plot 19 in the townland of Mullaghmore and the map on the GV website shows that Mullaghmore is between Omagh and Mountfield. Although it is now in the middle of a housing estate, the overlying ariel photograph shows there is still a house on the same spot. Insert Hampton into the GV database and you find that, although Hampton is NOT a very common name in Tyrone, there are in fact eight Hampton families living in the Parish of Cappagh. HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON WILLIAM TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON ANDREW TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON ALEXANDER TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON JAMES TYRONE CAPPAGH HAMPTON JOHN TYRONE CAPPAGH This tells me that you are definitely in the right area. This is only the start. If you use the hints and tips, the data and the links on the CTI website, you will have a much better idea of what your cousin needs to see and find when she eventually arrives in Ireland. And I can think of worse places to start than here: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/videos/monreagh.html Hope this helps, Boyd http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rbsampson via Sent: 03 September 2015 04:59 To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research ---------------------------------- I have a cousin coming to Ireland to research for the first time. I've read in the past posts some hints to use when searching. If anyone can help on where to start and what to look for from towns or cities with archives or church records.... Feel free to share. My cousin is older and will be researching and visiting various places... Stating on Dublin for a while. She wanted some hints and clues from parking to travel and prepping to do genealogy. Our clan ancestor was James McFadden of county Tyrone .... We have some hints as to the village of Mountfield. McPhadden was the spelling of our name back in the 1840s before we came to Canada. Thomas was the father of James but that's all we know so far. A sibling to James McFadden was: Rebecca McFadden who married surname of Hampton in Mountfield Tryone. James mcfadden married a number of time in Canada to native Indian women ( First Nations women). He settled by 1850 in western canada in what is now the province of British Columbia.... In the Gulf Islands. Any dna trivial clues or hints on searching the archives or PRONI will help. Church hints or newspaper lists etc will be great .... Travelling from BC in Canada ... Looking forward to hints and suggestions on this search!! Many kind regards and cheers from Rocky Sampson --------------------------------- Sent from my iPhone ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
"Hampton" in Tyrone can also be found as Hempton. A branch of these Hemptons {from Ardstraw if I recall correctly} moved into Londonderry city in the early 1800s where they became established printers and booksellers their best known publication probably being "Walkers Siege of Derry" of which I have a copy published in 1902. Something else to keep in mind with the McFaddens, was that a number of them changed their name to Patterson {I suppose to appear more anglified} which can complicate research a little. A bit like some McGirrs becoming Shorts" in South Tyrone I have found McGirrs and Shorts in the district of Clogher, both from the same family! best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > To: rbsampson@yahoo.com > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:15:30 +0100 > CC: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research > From: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Hi Rocky, > > What you are asking for is a very tall order. And I am not sure you are > actually asking the right question anyway. > > If you trawl the internet, you will find endless sources of hints and tips > on how to research Irish genealogy and if you trawl the internet you will > find endless sources of data and links to data that will enable you to do > this research. County Tyrone is one of the best endowed counties in the > whole of Ireland thanks to the work of Jim McKane, Len Swindley and others, > who have created a website (called CTI) that has everything you will ever > need to research your Tyrone ancestry. Here it is: > http://www.cotyroneireland.com/ > > And you will be able to do it all from the comfort of your own home in Main > Street, Canada. And that is really what your cousin needs to do. Instead > of "prepping to do genealogy" when she comes to Ireland, she needs to do the > genealogy in Canada in preparation for when she actually comes to Ireland. > Then she can enjoy the fruits of her labours and add to what she has already > discovered by visiting the area, speaking to locals and checking church > records, which are generally not online. > > The starting point for all Irish folks whose ancestors emigrated to the > diaspora is the Griffiths Valuation (GV) of circa 1858, even if they left > before that date. I say this for three reasons > 1. There are very few useful records before this survey > 2. It covers every family in Ireland and thus the folks "left behind" by > the émigrés should be there > 3. It is searchable online. > > And in order to search the GV you need to know the name of the townland > where your folks lived. Mountfield is not a townland. Google, that > essential genealogical research tool, tells me that it is "a small village > in the townland of Aghalane, northeast of Omagh". Insert Aghalane into the > GV search box here: > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearc > h > > There are none but we can see that Aghalane is in the Parish of Cappagh. > So, insert McFadden, Parish of Cappagh, County of Tyrone into the GV search > engine and you get this: > Griffith's Valuation Record Information > Tenant > Family Name 1 MCFADDEN > Forename 1 THOMAS > Landlord > Family Name 2 STACK > Forename 2 THOMAS L. > Prefix REV > Location > County TYRONE > Barony STRABANE, UPPER > Union OMAGH > Parish CAPPAGH > Townland MULLAGHMORE > Place Name MULLAGHMORE > Place Type TOWNLAND > Publication Details > Position on Page 6 > Printing Date 1860 > Act 15&16 > Sheet Number 35 > Map Reference 19 > > You wanted a Thomas. This Thomas is actually the ONLY McFadden in the area. > He could well be the father of your "clan ancestor", James McFadden. He > lived on Plot 19 in the townland of Mullaghmore and the map on the GV > website shows that Mullaghmore is between Omagh and Mountfield. Although it > is now in the middle of a housing estate, the overlying ariel photograph > shows there is still a house on the same spot. > > Insert Hampton into the GV database and you find that, although Hampton is > NOT a very common name in Tyrone, there are in fact eight Hampton families > living in the Parish of Cappagh. > HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON WILLIAM TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON ANDREW TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON ALEXANDER TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON GEORGE TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON JAMES TYRONE CAPPAGH > HAMPTON JOHN TYRONE CAPPAGH > This tells me that you are definitely in the right area. > > This is only the start. If you use the hints and tips, the data and the > links on the CTI website, you will have a much better idea of what your > cousin needs to see and find when she eventually arrives in Ireland. And I > can think of worse places to start than here: > http://www.cotyroneireland.com/videos/monreagh.html > > Hope this helps, > > Boyd > > http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/default.htm > > http://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rbsampson via > Sent: 03 September 2015 04:59 > To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Coming to Ireland to research > > ---------------------------------- > I have a cousin coming to Ireland to research for the first time. I've read > in the past posts some hints to use when searching. > If anyone can help on where to start and what to look for from towns or > cities with archives or church records.... Feel free to share. My cousin is > older and will be researching and visiting various places... Stating on > Dublin for a while. She wanted some hints and clues from parking to travel > and prepping to do genealogy. > > Our clan ancestor was James McFadden of county Tyrone .... We have some > hints as to the village of Mountfield. McPhadden was the spelling of our > name back in the 1840s before we came to Canada. Thomas was the father of > James but that's all we know so far. A sibling to James McFadden was: > Rebecca McFadden who married surname of Hampton in Mountfield Tryone. James > mcfadden married a number of time in Canada to native Indian women ( First > Nations women). He settled by 1850 in western canada in what is now the > province of British Columbia.... In the Gulf Islands. > > Any dna trivial clues or hints on searching the archives or PRONI will help. > Church hints or newspaper lists etc will be great .... Travelling from BC in > Canada ... Looking forward to hints and suggestions on this search!! > > Many kind regards and cheers from Rocky Sampson > --------------------------------- > Sent from my iPhone > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have just returned from holiday and have the following few entries from Dromore Presbyterian Film No. MIC1P/247 22 November 1841 Matthew WILSON son of Robert WILSON and Jane WILSON otherwise Bleakley of Moorfield Parish of Kilseaddy (Kilskeery?) married to Catherine MAGUIRE daughter of John MAGUIRE and Isabella otherwise CUNNINGHAM of Ohengony Parish of Dromore Witnesses: William Irvine and Thomas Bleakley February 1843 Edward son of Andrew and Martha JOHNSON otherwise WILSON of Shaneragh, Dromore married to Isabel McAuley daughter of James McAULEY and Jane. 7 March 1843 Arthur son of William STEWART and Catherine of Drumcheerin Fermanagh married to Sarah SPROULE daughter of Andrew and Jane of Drumadreghy, Parish of Templemaghery, Fermanagh 6 February 1842 Baptism of May daughter of John and Mary WILSON of Drumskinny 1 February 1846 Baptism of John son of Edward and Isabel JOHNSON of Shanagh I also have a few notes from Fintona Presbyterian MIC/1P/283 - baptisms September, 1843 Joseph WILSON son of Andrew and Ann Neily 22 November 1841 John WILSON son of Andrew and Eliza McCluny 20 May 1844 Mary Ann WILSON daughter of Stephen and Mary Roberson 25 February, 1846 Andrew WILSON son of Andrew and Ann Margaret in Oz.
Hello, I am researching my family ancestry. My 4th Great Grandfather, John O'Hagen comes from Tyron County, Ireland. I know he married my 4th Great Grandmother, Edee Bright and they had one son John O'Hagen Bright in 1785 in Beaufort County, North Carolina, USA. I understand John O'Hagen traveled from Maryland, USA to Virginia, USA and then to North Carolina. Due to Anti-Catholic rules and some religious persecution, John O'Hagen changed his surname to Bright, his wife's maiden name becoming John O'Hagen Bright. I'm unable to find travel records for him from Ireland or exactly where or when he enter into the USA. Any help would be greatly appreciated Archie Bright abbright1@gmail.com
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---------------------------------- I have a cousin coming to Ireland to research for the first time. I've read in the past posts some hints to use when searching. If anyone can help on where to start and what to look for from towns or cities with archives or church records.... Feel free to share. My cousin is older and will be researching and visiting various places... Stating on Dublin for a while. She wanted some hints and clues from parking to travel and prepping to do genealogy. Our clan ancestor was James McFadden of county Tyrone .... We have some hints as to the village of Mountfield. McPhadden was the spelling of our name back in the 1840s before we came to Canada. Thomas was the father of James but that's all we know so far. A sibling to James McFadden was: Rebecca McFadden who married surname of Hampton in Mountfield Tryone. James mcfadden married a number of time in Canada to native Indian women ( First Nations women). He settled by 1850 in western canada in what is now the province of British Columbia.... In the Gulf Islands. Any dna trivial clues or hints on searching the archives or PRONI will help. Church hints or newspaper lists etc will be great .... Travelling from BC in Canada ... Looking forward to hints and suggestions on this search!! Many kind regards and cheers from Rocky Sampson --------------------------------- Sent from my iPhone
Hi I found this short film on the British Film Institute website, which I am posting solely for family research purposes, as it mentions names and shows families living in Fintona at the time. http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-housing-discrimination-1953/ Brian Magaoidh http://ulster.failteromhat.com/
I am currently researching the MaNeely family of County Tyrone. Specifically, they lived in Ballynafeagh, Curglassan, Corkhill and some immigrated to the US and Lived in Philadelphia, PA and Bridgeport CT. This family is somehow related to the Wright Family of Ballynafeagh and Lisanane. Is Anyone researching this MaNeely Family? Dennis Wright
Hi All I am at Glasgow Archives trying to decipher a town name that looks like Culcarvey, Culcavey, Culrevy....near Five Mile Town. The "Cul"... and the "y" are 98%.... But it was written by a Scot in the 1860s interviewing an Irishman who was not in the best of health so there may have been some phonetic interpretation. H Anyone have any ideas of what might be? (I'm searching for Richard Wilson, shoemaker, m. Ann Armstrong, both of whom left Tyrone for Scotland in the Late 1840s. He claims he was from this town.) Thanks, Bridgid Ps the Mitchell Library is terrific with very helpful staff. Maybe a useful resource for others whose families left Ireland for Scotland.
Bridgid, A little farther away, but closer to the word you’re seeing is Culrevog: Culrevog, Clonfeacle Parish, Barony: Dungannon, about 25 miles E of Five Mile Town A final “g” can certainly look like “y”. David > On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:51 PM, David Bartley via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Bridgid, > > See if any of the following is possible. Searching on Cul* in the Clogher Barony, County Tyrone: > > Cullenbrone ~10 miles NE of Five Mile Town > Culnaha ~10 mies NE of Five Mile Town > Collamor ~5 miles E of Five Mile Town > Cullentra ~2 miles E of Five Mile Town > Cullynane ~2 miles E of Five Mile Town > > David > > > >> On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:00 PM, bridgid wilson via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi All >> I am at Glasgow Archives trying to decipher a town name that looks like Culcarvey, Culcavey, Culrevy....near Five Mile Town. >> >> The "Cul"... and the "y" are 98%.... But it was written by a Scot in the 1860s interviewing an Irishman who was not in the best of health so there may have been some phonetic interpretation. >> H >> Anyone have any ideas of what might be? >> >> (I'm searching for Richard Wilson, shoemaker, m. Ann Armstrong, both of whom left Tyrone for Scotland in the Late 1840s. He claims he was from this town.) >> Thanks, >> >> Bridgid >> Ps the Mitchell Library is terrific with very helpful staff. Maybe a useful resource for others whose families left Ireland for Scotland. >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Bridgid, See if any of the following is possible. Searching on Cul* in the Clogher Barony, County Tyrone: Cullenbrone ~10 miles NE of Five Mile Town Culnaha ~10 mies NE of Five Mile Town Collamor ~5 miles E of Five Mile Town Cullentra ~2 miles E of Five Mile Town Cullynane ~2 miles E of Five Mile Town David > On Aug 28, 2015, at 9:00 PM, bridgid wilson via <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Hi All > I am at Glasgow Archives trying to decipher a town name that looks like Culcarvey, Culcavey, Culrevy....near Five Mile Town. > > The "Cul"... and the "y" are 98%.... But it was written by a Scot in the 1860s interviewing an Irishman who was not in the best of health so there may have been some phonetic interpretation. > H > Anyone have any ideas of what might be? > > (I'm searching for Richard Wilson, shoemaker, m. Ann Armstrong, both of whom left Tyrone for Scotland in the Late 1840s. He claims he was from this town.) > Thanks, > > Bridgid > Ps the Mitchell Library is terrific with very helpful staff. Maybe a useful resource for others whose families left Ireland for Scotland. > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Listers, Is there anyone researching the family of SAMUEL DILL MATHEWS of Lisnagir, Cappagh Parish, Co. Tyrone? This data could be useful to your research: Port Augusta Despatch, Newcastle & Flinders Chronicle [South Australia], November 13 1885 MARRIAGE: SYMONS – MATHEWS. – On the 9th November, at the Bible Christian Church, Port Augusta, by the Rev. J. Hancock, WILLIAM, third son of MR JOHN SYMONS, of Moonta, to ELIZABETH (BESSIE), youngest daughter of MR SAMUEL DILL MATHEWS, Lisnagir House, Omagh, County Tyrone, Ireland. Irish papers please copy. South Australian Register [Adelaide], November 15 1888 DEATH: SYMONS. – On the 10th November, at Hindmarsh, ELIZABETH (BESSIE) dearly beloved wife of W. SYMONS, Port Augusta, and youngest daughter of S.D. MATHEWS, ESQ., Lisnagir, Omagh, Tyrone, Ireland, aged 24 years. Also: Londonderry Sentinel, April 20 1869 DEATH: MATHEWS. April 14, at Lisnagir, SAMUEL DILL MATHEWS, youngest son of MR. SAMUEL DILL MATHEWS, aged 2 years and 4 months I have no connection to this family, but someone may, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
Hello Listers, Is there anyone researching the family of SAMUEL DILL MATHEWS of Lisnagir, Cappagh Parish, Co. Tyrone? This data could be useful to your research: Port Augusta Despatch, Newcastle & Flinders Chronicle [South Australia], November 13 1885 MARRIAGE: SYMONS – MATHEWS. – On the 9th November, at the Bible Christian Church, Port Augusta, by the Rev. J. Hancock, WILLIAM, third son of MR JOHN SYMONS, of Moonta, to ELIZABETH (BESSIE), youngest daughter of MR SAMUEL DILL MATHEWS, Lisnagir House, Omagh, County Tyrone, Ireland. Irish papers please copy. South Australian Register [Adelaide], November 15 1888 DEATH: SYMONS. – On the 10th November, at Hindmarsh, ELIZABETH (BESSIE) dearly beloved wife of W. SYMONS, Port Augusta, and youngest daughter of S.D. MATHEWS, ESQ., Lisnagir, Omagh, Tyrone, Ireland, aged 24 years. Also: Londonderry Sentinel, April 20 1869 DEATH: MATHEWS. April 14, at Lisnagir, SAMUEL DILL MATHEWS, youngest son of MR. SAMUEL DILL MATHEWS, aged 2 years and 4 months I have no connection to this family, but someone may, Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
Hello Larry & Debbie, Are you able to tell the list what information is contained in the c1830 & 1864 Dromore Presbyterian censuses? Names and ages of members and their children AND townlands? Do you have any data that you may like to share with the list? Regards, Len Swindley > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 08:46:55 -0600 > > From: "Larry and Debbie MacDonald" <larry_m@shaw.ca> > > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 10, Issue 167 > > To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <BBC983B215CC483C876DD6E53803B7EF@MSI> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > > > I found the 1830 and 1864 church census for Dromore Presbyterian on the > > Emerald Ancestors website. > > > > "Church censuses as such were unknown in Presbyterian congregations, > > although occasionally a minister would list member families and their > > townlands; these are generally located in the kirk session records, but not > > always. > > > > Such records within Presbyterian churches are rather rare. Where they have > > survived they are recorded within PRONI's online Guide to Church Records." > > > > > > > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
All I can tell you is your Trainor line branches off The Hy Many pedigree by O'Donovan of 1843 at generation 6 from Maine Mor. I have not been told specifically which individual at generation 6 that Trainor branches from, just that Trainor branches off at generation 6 according to SNP analysis on the BIG-Y test. That is per the latest DNA testing of the Hy Many O'Kelly line which I am a branch off of after generation 28, Chief William Boy O'Kelly of Connacht. Regards, Michael Kelly Emporium, Cameron County, Pennsylvania, United States of America
Thanks to Margaret I now have the location of the marriage and why it is recorded in both counties. Regards Kerrie -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kerrie Alexander via Sent: Thursday, 27 August 2015 10:06 AM To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Thomas Rutledge - marriage query Hi Four newspaper advertisements state that Thomas Rutledge and Jane Palmer married in Bundoran Church but not where this church was. Last week I took a months subs to Rootsireland in the hope that I could further the Rutledge line but was very disappointed in that they have very few transcriptions for Fermanagh or southern Tyrone. But they did have a transcript of the marriage of Thomas Rutledge to Jane Palmer on 1 August 1861 in the parish/district of Inishmacsaint, Donegal - religion Church of Ireland. The address for Thomas was Kildaton, Scotland (where he was working) and Jane was from Bundoran. When I was searching Google for information on the family I came across a transcription of the marriage records of Finner, Fermanagh done by George Armstrong. This is to be found at http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/churches/finner-mar-coi.htm There was the marriage of Thomas Rutledge to Jane Palmer with exactly the same details as the marriage record from Inishmacsaint, except that the date in the Finner records was 27 August 1861. Finner I think, is a townland in the parish of Belleek. I am now totally confused. Did they marry in Donegal or Fermanagh? Any assistance with this appreciated. Regards Kerrie ------------- Our community web-site: http://cotyroneireland.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message