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    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Where is Crockanboy?
    2. Cliff. Johnston
    3. Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Crockanboy 753 Tyrone Strabane Upper Bodoney Lower Gortin Ulster http://proni.nics.gov.uk/geogindx/tyro.htm #9 on the north end of the map, if they haven't changed the site since I last looked at it... Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cece" <mawcee@mindspring.com> To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] Where is Crockanboy? > Hello from Georgia, USA, > > I appreciate the information on Dromore. My GG Grandmother's (Bridget > BREEN, 1860, Dromore, County Tyrone) obit showed she was born there, and I > am trying to learn more about it. > > On a search for BREEN'S from Tyrone, I ran across this obit, and thought I > would ask where Crockanboy is and is there a meaning to the name? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Brooklyn Standard Union > 1931..DEATHS APRIL > > JAMES McDERMOTT, of 757 Manhattan Avenue, died Wednesday in > Greenpoint Hospital in his fiftieth year. He was born in > Crockanboy, County Tyrone, Ireland, and had been a resident of the > Eastern District of Brooklyn for thirty-two years. He was for many > years engaged in the coal and ice business. He is survived by his > widow, Mary; three sons, James, John and Peter; a daughter, Mary; > his mother, Sarah McDERMOTT, and four brothers and eight sisters. > He was a son of the late James McDERMOTT. The funeral will be held > from the home of his sister, Mrs. Patrick McENENY, at 757 Manhattan > avenue, at 9:30 A.M. to-morrow, with requiem mass at the Church of > St. Antony. Interment will be at Calvary Cemetery under direction > of James F. MURRAY, 605 Lorimer street. > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/30/2008 11:19:28
    1. [CoTyIre] Old Station House, Kikerry, Trillick, County Tyrone,
    2. Anne Hollingshead
    3. Could anyone tell me if the Old Station House, Kikerry, Trillick, County Tyrone, is still in existence please ? Anne

    06/29/2008 08:29:08
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Patrick Skiffington 1815 ca
    2. Patricia Moosman
    3. Hello Maisie I have just put SKIFFINGTON into emerald ancestor's county Tyrone and they were overwhelmingly from Dungannon, so you could concentrate on that area Also sounds like they were RC. Have you tried to contact the church there? See if they can tell if a birth was registered. I am surprised you have a marriage certificate that doesn't give fathers names. Unfortunately it was are3 for them to give and further information other than Ireland to the question about where they were born Good luck in your search I know how you feel Patricia New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maisie Egger Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:57 AM To: IRELANDGENWEB; CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Patrick Skiffington 1815 ca Good morning all, I have just about given up on finding out more of the beginnings of my husband's "Irish lot," and still may do as it's been such an exercise in frustration over too many years! I'd also about reached this point with his so-called Austrian side when I came across some notes he'd made over 20 years ago during a conversation he'd had with a cousin which allowed in a glimmer of light. This cousin, on his father's sister, was a little older than my husband and we feel that she might have the correct information that their respective grandmother, Veronica Surmann (or Zurmann). Apparently, Veronica did not "come from" Vienna, Austria, but was actually born in Budapest, Hungary. After her parents died she went to live with an uncle in Vienna, hence that connection. Her husband, Franz Egger, my husband's grandfather, was also thought to be from Vienna, but family lore has it that he was actually from Berne, Switzerland. He was a mosaic tile layer and it's very possible that he ended up in Vienna for work, where he was married. We have one (one only) group family photograph taken in Vienna, before they left to come to this side of the world. I then received a copy of the passenger list for the Karlsruhe's maiden voyage from Bremen to N.Y. and Baltimore 1890, which lists the grandmother Veronica, with four children, Karl, Franzeska, Anton and Marie, but no husband. This bears out some more family lore than he had come ahead to the U.S.A. This is the sum and substance of what we know about that "Austrian" side of the family prior to emigrating to America. We are totally striking out with my husband's Irish side. I have been posting "Wanted" flyers all over the place since we began this quest years ago, but are getting absolutely nowhere. We believe that Patrick Skiffington was born around 1815 in Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone. End of story! We have absolutely nothing more about him and his Irish roots. There is a possibility that he may have been a passenger on the Jane Walker, Liverpool to N.Y., in 1834. In between, there is nothing but a big blank until he married Bridget Kelly (born Ireland, that's all folks!) in The Basilica of the Blessed Assumption, Baltimore, Maryland. Their children were all baptised in St. Peter's, their local parish church presumably. At the "old age" of 47 he went off to fight in the American Civil War, where he sustained injuries when he fell on his bayonet, from which he died six months later in his home in Baltimore. The recruiting sergeant had lied about his age, incidentally. We located his grave where he had been re-interred in New Cathedral Cemetery, Baltimore, Maryland. The family presumably maintained its R.C. roots by having him buried in this Catholic cemetery. Unfortunately, trying to track down Bridget Kelly Skiffington thereafter has been a trial. We believe one of her daughters moved to N.Y. where Bridget and a son Edward followed. No one else by the name of Skiffington had been buried in the Baltimore New Cathedral Cemetery. To recap: Patrick Skiffington, born about 1815, Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone, Ireland. Married 1840, Basilica of the Blessed Assumption, Baltimore, Maryland, to Bridget Kelly (Ireland). Children baptised St. Peter's Church, Baltimore. Patrick died 1863 during the American Civil War after falling on his bayonet while serving with a Baltimore Infantry Regiment. We have all his U.S. Army Pension records, but none of those documents or the marriage certificate tells one thing about parents, siblings or confirms actual place of birth, except Ireland. As I've been up hill and down dale over the years, is it possible that there's a glimmer of hope that someone has sharper sleuthing skills to help me find out more about Patrick Skiffington's beginnings before coming to America similar to the spark of light given by the "Vienna" family? (I should add that through a "shirttail" cousin I have found out a "ton" about my mother's Gribbin side in Co. Antrim.) I'm beginning to feel like a broken record. Maisie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/29/2008 04:12:43
    1. [CoTyIre] Megan Grant posting in 1999
    2. Jim Cullen
    3. Hi, I'm trying to locate Megan Grant in reference to a post she made on this list in 1999: Subject: [CoTyroneIreland-L] Cullen's in Strabane area Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:14:07 -0400 Megan's post showed a Bernard Cullen, who is my gr-gr-grandfather. This is the first connection I have found that indicates that my Cullen/Cullion clan came from Co. Tyrone in Ireland and I'm very interesting in understand more about the information she posted! Thanks. Jim Cullen Martinsburg, WV _________________________________________________________________ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the i’m Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving

    06/28/2008 05:10:07
    1. [CoTyIre] Call for proof reader Thank You!
    2. Tyrone
    3. Hello Friends With such an overwhelming response to my request for help for a proof reader for our web-site that I find it impossible to reply to each of you. Please accept this e-mail as my way of extending my sincere *thank You's* to everyone who replied and was willing to donate their time & efforts. Without the help of volunteers our web-site simply could not exist. With our newest member, Virginia who recently joined to help Tammy with the uploading & organizing of pictures for our site, I'd like to welcome aboard Ray & Rob, our 2 new proof-readers and Margaret Barnes who is our latest transcriber. Thank you so much to everyone & *Happy Hunting*~ Teena

    06/28/2008 04:27:17
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Where is Dromore?
    2. christene
    3. try this map of parishes http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tyrone/maps/parish.html or this for county borders http://www.irishbyways.com/WebPageGraphics/05Itinerary/MapIrelandPolitical.jpg Dromore is a Parish of Tyrone Termonamongan joins the Donegal border then that joins Longfield West and that joins Dromore which borders County Fermanagh this site lists lots of names etc http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/swerner/radical/livingston10.html Christene

    06/28/2008 03:59:54
    1. [CoTyIre] Thanks Kerrie Dromore names
    2. christene
    3. Thanks very much Kerrie I will try to find a copy of that Christene

    06/28/2008 06:04:30
    1. [CoTyIre] Dromore Names - McGrath
    2. Kerrie
    3. Sorry the article on James McGrath appeared in the Clogher Record: Journal of the Clogher Historical Society, 13:3 (1990), 55-71. ISSN 0412-8079. it was not in Familia. Kerrie > There is an article entitled "From the Lammas Fair to New South Wales: > James > McGrath of Dromore" by Pat McDonnell which appeared in an issue of > "Familia" > the journal of the Ulster Genealogical & Historical Guild.

    06/28/2008 05:52:20
    1. [CoTyIre] Dromore Names
    2. Kerrie
    3. There is an article entitled "From the Lammas Fair to New South Wales: James McGrath of Dromore" by Pat McDonnell which appeared in an issue of "Familia" the journal of the Ulster Genealogical & Historical Guild. I think it was published in the late 1980's. Kerrie > Taken from Immigration records > CORRIGAN Susan dau of Peter and Anne CORRIGAN > aged 26 April 1841 records > GORDON P P Peter certified baptism > OSBORNE George swore to her character > ALEXANDER Archibald also swore to her character > COSGROVE Thomas she travelled under his protection > Susan left Greenock 6 April 1841 onboard the Herald > arrived 15 July 1841 > McGRATH James married her in St Marys Sydney 1845 > he was a convict sent to Australia 1828 for a crime commited 1826 > He was in Dromore at the time of the offence > Christene

    06/28/2008 05:40:50
    1. [CoTyIre] Dromore Names
    2. christene
    3. Taken from Immigration records CORRIGAN Susan dau of Peter and Anne CORRIGAN aged 26 April 1841 records GORDON P P Peter certified baptism OSBORNE George swore to her character ALEXANDER Archibald also swore to her character COSGROVE Thomas she travelled under his protection Susan left Greenock 6 April 1841 onboard the Herald arrived 15 July 1841 McGRATH James married her in St Marys Sydney 1845 he was a convict sent to Australia 1828 for a crime commited 1826 He was in Dromore at the time of the offence Christene

    06/28/2008 05:29:54
    1. [CoTyIre] Patrick Skiffington 1815 ca
    2. Maisie Egger
    3. Good morning all, I have just about given up on finding out more of the beginnings of my husband's "Irish lot," and still may do as it's been such an exercise in frustration over too many years! I'd also about reached this point with his so-called Austrian side when I came across some notes he'd made over 20 years ago during a conversation he'd had with a cousin which allowed in a glimmer of light. This cousin, on his father's sister, was a little older than my husband and we feel that she might have the correct information that their respective grandmother, Veronica Surmann (or Zurmann). Apparently, Veronica did not "come from" Vienna, Austria, but was actually born in Budapest, Hungary. After her parents died she went to live with an uncle in Vienna, hence that connection. Her husband, Franz Egger, my husband's grandfather, was also thought to be from Vienna, but family lore has it that he was actually from Berne, Switzerland. He was a mosaic tile layer and it's very possible that he ended up in Vienna for work, where he was married. We have one (one only) group family photograph taken in Vienna, before they left to come to this side of the world. I then received a copy of the passenger list for the Karlsruhe's maiden voyage from Bremen to N.Y. and Baltimore 1890, which lists the grandmother Veronica, with four children, Karl, Franzeska, Anton and Marie, but no husband. This bears out some more family lore than he had come ahead to the U.S.A. This is the sum and substance of what we know about that "Austrian" side of the family prior to emigrating to America. We are totally striking out with my husband's Irish side. I have been posting "Wanted" flyers all over the place since we began this quest years ago, but are getting absolutely nowhere. We believe that Patrick Skiffington was born around 1815 in Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone. End of story! We have absolutely nothing more about him and his Irish roots. There is a possibility that he may have been a passenger on the Jane Walker, Liverpool to N.Y., in 1834. In between, there is nothing but a big blank until he married Bridget Kelly (born Ireland, that's all folks!) in The Basilica of the Blessed Assumption, Baltimore, Maryland. Their children were all baptised in St. Peter's, their local parish church presumably. At the "old age" of 47 he went off to fight in the American Civil War, where he sustained injuries when he fell on his bayonet, from which he died six months later in his home in Baltimore. The recruiting sergeant had lied about his age, incidentally. We located his grave where he had been re-interred in New Cathedral Cemetery, Baltimore, Maryland. The family presumably maintained its R.C. roots by having him buried in this Catholic cemetery. Unfortunately, trying to track down Bridget Kelly Skiffington thereafter has been a trial. We believe one of her daughters moved to N.Y. where Bridget and a son Edward followed. No one else by the name of Skiffington had been buried in the Baltimore New Cathedral Cemetery. To recap: Patrick Skiffington, born about 1815, Donaghmore, Co. Tyrone, Ireland. Married 1840, Basilica of the Blessed Assumption, Baltimore, Maryland, to Bridget Kelly (Ireland). Children baptised St. Peter's Church, Baltimore. Patrick died 1863 during the American Civil War after falling on his bayonet while serving with a Baltimore Infantry Regiment. We have all his U.S. Army Pension records, but none of those documents or the marriage certificate tells one thing about parents, siblings or confirms actual place of birth, except Ireland. As I've been up hill and down dale over the years, is it possible that there's a glimmer of hope that someone has sharper sleuthing skills to help me find out more about Patrick Skiffington's beginnings before coming to America similar to the spark of light given by the "Vienna" family? (I should add that through a "shirttail" cousin I have found out a "ton" about my mother's Gribbin side in Co. Antrim.) I'm beginning to feel like a broken record. Maisie --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    06/28/2008 03:56:54
    1. [CoTyIre] Where is Dromore?
    2. Dave Mitchell
    3. Hi folks If someone described himself as "from Dromore, co. Tyrone", where would this most likely refer to/ There is also a Dromore in the Inishowen peninsula and in co. Down, if I'm not mistaken. Many thanks Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa

    06/28/2008 03:32:32
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Where is Dromore?
    2. Ulster Ancestry
    3. Hello Dave, Dromore is a small town halfway between Omagh and Irvinestown. best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > Hi folks> > If someone described himself as "from Dromore, co. Tyrone", where would this > most likely refer to/> > There is also a Dromore in the Inishowen peninsula and in co. Down, if I'm > not mistaken.> > _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000009ukm/direct/01/

    06/28/2008 02:52:56
    1. [CoTyIre] 1926 Census On-line Petition
    2. Steven Smyrl
    3. Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations (CIGO) Further to our last News Alert about the Irish 1926 Census, you are now invited to subscribe to CIGO's on-line petition which is to be submitted in due course to Mr. Brian Cowen TD, Taoiseach [Prime Minister] of Ireland. You can read more about this issue here. <http://www.cigo.ie/news.html> www.cigo.ie

    06/26/2008 08:57:50
    1. [CoTyIre] GALLAGHER ALLY
    2. Christene
    3. Listers Can anyone tell me if the name ALLY (Gallagher) would be an abrieviation or shortening of another name ? It is mentioned in the 1727 azzises in regard to a murder trail I have Hugh Francis Ally and Felix Gallagher mentioned along with my ancestor James McGrath Christene

    06/26/2008 02:28:06
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] GALLAGHER ALLY
    2. Claire K
    3. Christene, From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin and Portland, OR: Irish Academic Press, 1999): "Alley. This English name, of Scandinavian origin, is now rare in Ireland, but was numerous in the past in Cos. Kildare and Leix where it is frequently on record, e.g. in the Fiants for 1544." I'd say your Ally is an Alley. Hope that helps. Claire K seekay@comcast.net Plan now! FGS '08 "Footprints in Family History" 3-6 September 2008, Philadelphia, PA http://www.fgsconference.org On Jun 25, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Christene wrote: > Listers > Can anyone tell me if the name ALLY > (Gallagher) would be an abrieviation > or shortening of another name ? > It is mentioned in the 1727 azzises in > regard to a murder trail > I have Hugh Francis Ally and Felix Gallagher > mentioned along with my ancestor James McGrath > Christene

    06/25/2008 01:29:32
    1. [CoTyIre] New LDS Research Site And Call For Indexers
    2. Bruce Andrews
    3. There is a new Pilot site that the LDS church has started. In addition to having the normal textual information available - they also have the images of the original information. Very helpful. In addition the new site asks for volunteers to help index the information on not-yet posted images. I am not affiliated with the LDS in any way - but urge those with some time to help with the indexing. This is done from your own home by downloading images to your computer and indexing them. The process is easy and there are NO requirements other than your time. The site is here: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0 -- _______________________________________________________ Bruce E. Andrews (H) 253-845-3632 (C) 206-999-9744 M c C a u s l a n d & S o u t h e y RootsWeb listowner 13107 - 115th St. E e-mail: bruce_andrews@comcast.net Puyallup, WA 98374 USA

    06/25/2008 09:08:03
    1. [CoTyIre] Jane Duff and John William Duncan
    2. Mimi Reed
    3. Dear Listers. I am posting this to the Tyrone list in the hope that someone can help a little. I know how really difficult this early stuff is. Jane Duff of "Duffmount" married John William Duncan on Tuesday 6th April 1799 either in Derry or Co Tyrone. They were Presbyterian. All children born somewhere in Derry, probably Magherafelt or Belfast. William Duff Duncan 26 Jan 1800 Maria b. 23 Feb 1801 d. 17 April 1804 Robert 4 Oct 1802 d 15 April 1804 Maria (another) b. 9 March 1805 Eliza b. 22 Sept 1807 Above from Duncan family Bible printed in Edinburgh. Father, John William Duncan b. 1777 became a member of Lodge 777 of the Freemasons in 1808 which was then meeting in Magherafelt. ( I have his Mason's membership, and received the above information from the Grand Lodge in Dublin many years ago.) Mr. Duncan died in New Orleans Lousisana Territory USA in 1811. His family appears in Pittsburgh PA USA by 1820 (can't find them earlier) where they appeared to live very well and were well established with the town's upper classes (to use a poor phrase but social context is important). Jane Duncan was admitted to the 1st Presbyterian Church in Pitts in 1821 by certificate and died in 1829. She was a wealthy woman and I have no idea where the money came from. I am putting this on the Tyrone list because the only reference I can find to Duffmount is in Co. Tyrone from an Ordnance Survey map site. I have no idea what it describes. I suspect John W. Duncan was some sort of commission merchant, as was his son. Thanks in advance for any suggestions for further research. Mimi Reed (gggg granddaughter of John and Jane Duncan and ggg granddaughter of William Duff Duncan) State College PA USA

    06/24/2008 11:01:32
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 136
    2. frances heidel
    3. Does anyone know the name that the Aughabrack Chapel is now called and what town it is located? I know it existed, my father took me into the chapel and told me he sang in the choir and served mass there. His parents are buried there in the graveyard. Thanks very much. Fran Devine Heidel in PA, USA

    06/24/2008 07:01:44
    1. [CoTyIre] Updates to the Co. Tyrone Website | June 23/08
    2. Tammy Mitchell
    3. Virginia Williams has volunteered to post some images, that have been send to us, but have been slow to get posted. Here are the first two completed pages. Tombstones Page two. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/tombstones/tombstonesindex5.html Church Photos http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/churches/churchindex3.html Thank you to all who donate images, and thanks to Virginia! -- Tammy Mitchell ~~~ Co. Tyrone Volunteer Webmaster http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/ Visit the following FREE Gravestone Photo Projects: Tyrone: http://tammymitchell.com/cotyrone/ Fermanagh: http://www.tammymitchell.com/cofermanagh/ ----- My surnames of interest: Ewing, Cochrane, Mowat, Finnegan, Mitchell, Stewart, Banda, Cullen, Green (unrelated branches)

    06/23/2008 02:45:43