Hi Frank I tried putting your search name into google book site- "Francis Early" Tyrone-....And a book did come up, it is.." The Irish Law Times and solicitors Journal" 1904 (p 323) Under- "Court Papers - Irish Land-Estates Commissioners - List of estates gazetted for sale from Sept 16th to Sept 20th inclusive......" it lists a: "Owner-Francis Early, Co Tyrone Record No.E C- 150 County-Tyrone Here is the book site.... _http://books.google.com/books?id=vdUQAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA323&dq=%22Francis+Early%22 +Tyrone&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html_ (http://books.google.com/books?id=vdUQAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA323&dq="Francis+Early"+Tyrone&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&output=html) **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

For the records, offline, I have produced death certificates for: Edward CHESTER married to Elizabeth MURDOCH Date of Death: 18 February 1887 Age @ Death 45 yrs. b abt 1842 Parents: Edward CHESTER and Elizabeth PARK whose date of birth would have been abt 1819 Proof of age of Deceased: Marriage of Edward CHESTER and Elizabeth MURDOCH 8th March 1861 Ages, respectively 22 yrs & 21 yrs. b abt Edward CHESTER married to Elizabeth PARK Date of Death: 17 January 1872 Age @ death: 67 yrs. b abt 1805 Parents: Edward CHESTER and Mary m.s. DUNCAN whose date of birth would have been abt.1783 Living member of family states they were born Ireland. Janet

It also means that to receive a copy of one's own post, its necessary to send to your own name? Janet

This should have gone to the List. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <wightway@clara.co.uk> To: "Nelda Percival" <nelda_percival@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Reply facility to this list I have been subscribed to Rootsweb Lists for some time. I have owned Yahoo groups since 2000 and moderate one with over 3000 members. I am not saying one is better than the other. The main difference is the ability to share photos/images in albums. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelda Percival" <nelda_percival@hotmail.com> To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Reply facility to this list : : Hi Janet, : Some rootsweb mailing list have well over 400-500 members, I admin some of those. On list traffic would chase away most. I also belong to the Genealogy-dna list at rootsweb (my cousin admins it) ... well into 1000 members and traffic of about 200 per day. So having the choice as the list's admin is preferable. : : The two, Yahoogroups and rootsweb are not comaparable. Both are good for there own reasons. There are good message boards at rootsweb and genforum. they to are different even though they are owned by same company.... : : You use where your comfortable. : : nelda : : ------------- : Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland : : : ------------------------------- : To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message : :

Hello All. I've received a request below from the always so helpful Soopy Sue in NY, to post this to the list for her. Any replies to her and/or the list please, as I personally have no information on this surname. Sorry. Ray in oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: Soopy46@aol.com ... on TYRONE list! lol I agree that it is annoying with posting a reply...in fact I tried posting a reply to the McClelland person "onlist" 2x! And NOTHING! Could you ... put this thru for me? Sue in NY (post)"McClelland?" Hi Alice I also looked at Ancestry...are you sure Alexander didn't arrive in 1850? There is an Alexander McClelland age 16 , who left Londonderry and arrived in NY May 18th 1850. His place of origin-Ireland. He sailed on the British Queen.... If you think this may be him...email me off list! Otherwise...it all depends on how you are searching. The name could definitly be miss-spelled OR mis-interpreted. He might have also lied about his age. Sue in NY

Hi Alice, When searching in Ancestry.com, did you try using: McC* This will bring up all the names beginning with McC, might be a long search, but you may get lucky. You MUST put in three letters then * for this to work. Cheers Wendy Perth, West Aussie amroche1@aol.com wrote: > You're right, Ray. I just hit reply and the address line showed only your email address. So, when I hit "reply to all" I got both your address and the list address. > > While I'm at it...my McClelland family is from Congo, County Tyrone. Does anyone know how far away Congo, County Fermanagh is? I was surprised to find that there are 2 Congos in Northern Ireland. Another question...my Alexander McClelland came to the US (Manhattan) in 1847 at the age of 16 or 17. He traveled alone. I have been unable to find him on any ship's list. I've used the various spellings including Clelland on the various programs (ie. ancestry.com). No luck. Any suggestions? > > Thanks for any help! > > Alice > Albuquerque, NM > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray <ray15@optusnet.com.au> > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 6:25 am > Subject: [CoTyIre] Reply facility to this list > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again all. > > Sorry if it seems that I am hogging the list at the moment. > > The reason for this note, is that on each occasion in the past day or two when I > have intended to REPLY to the LIST, about a posting, regardless of whether I > tried "Reply" or "Reply to All" -- my reply was only addressed to the original > poster and not to the list. > > I have noticed that this Tyrone list has become fairly moribund of late, and now > I wonder if this lack of a direct Reply to the list itself might be part of the > reason for that; as I expect (and hope. ha ha) that I am not the only dumb one > around here; and that others might have thought that they were replying to the > list, only to never see their reply posted on it. > > It seems to me that we used to have a lot of friendly interactions and > helpfulness on the list, much of which seems to have evaporated in recent times. > I had put that down to just being the nature of some lists, but now I wonder if > this Reply issue might be more relevant to it. > > All of this is in complete contrast to the Fermanagh-Gold list, which I know > from postings that some of you are also subscribed to, which is one of the most > dynamic lists which I belong to; with that dynamism seeming to me to be > attributable to a few people. First, they have a list administrator who > interprets his brief VERY WIDELY, so that almost any topic is deemed relevant to > the list -- with all other counties within Ireland not being a limiting factor. > (And Claire this comment is NOT intended as any sort of slight to you, as I have > no complaint at all -- rather I am just trying to be comprehensive in what I am > writing. Secondly, because we have at least one very generous LOCAL who shares > all of her knowledge with us; plus other local experts who chime in from time to > time. And thirdly, with some very "noisy" foreigners who keep the questions and > helpful thoughts pouring in. The result is a list which sometimes overwhelms > with the number of its messages -- especially if! > one does not read them every day; but which also operates as a world-wide > family, seeming to enfold each other in caring arms. > > I'd be interested in the thoughts of others on some of these things; but Claire > if you do not want this sort of discussion to occur on-list, please let us know. > > > Regards to all. > Ray in Oz. > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Janet, If your people left before the Primary Valuation (a.k.a. Griffith's) you may want to check the Tithe Apploment Books. A better starting point - which is based upon both the records mentioned is the 'Householders Index' for Co. Tyrone. Many libraries with good genealogical collections have this secondary source. From, Clare L. - - - - -Some of my Co Tyrone names: Devlin, McAleer, Donnelly, McCullagh, McCusker, McCrory

Hello again all. Sorry if it seems that I am hogging the list at the moment. The reason for this note, is that on each occasion in the past day or two when I have intended to REPLY to the LIST, about a posting, regardless of whether I tried "Reply" or "Reply to All" -- my reply was only addressed to the original poster and not to the list. I have noticed that this Tyrone list has become fairly moribund of late, and now I wonder if this lack of a direct Reply to the list itself might be part of the reason for that; as I expect (and hope. ha ha) that I am not the only dumb one around here; and that others might have thought that they were replying to the list, only to never see their reply posted on it. It seems to me that we used to have a lot of friendly interactions and helpfulness on the list, much of which seems to have evaporated in recent times. I had put that down to just being the nature of some lists, but now I wonder if this Reply issue might be more relevant to it. All of this is in complete contrast to the Fermanagh-Gold list, which I know from postings that some of you are also subscribed to, which is one of the most dynamic lists which I belong to; with that dynamism seeming to me to be attributable to a few people. First, they have a list administrator who interprets his brief VERY WIDELY, so that almost any topic is deemed relevant to the list -- with all other counties within Ireland not being a limiting factor. (And Claire this comment is NOT intended as any sort of slight to you, as I have no complaint at all -- rather I am just trying to be comprehensive in what I am writing. Secondly, because we have at least one very generous LOCAL who shares all of her knowledge with us; plus other local experts who chime in from time to time. And thirdly, with some very "noisy" foreigners who keep the questions and helpful thoughts pouring in. The result is a list which sometimes overwhelms with the number of its messages -- especially if one does not read them every day; but which also operates as a world-wide family, seeming to enfold each other in caring arms. I'd be interested in the thoughts of others on some of these things; but Claire if you do not want this sort of discussion to occur on-list, please let us know. Regards to all. Ray in Oz.

Hello Frank. Great to read something from you after a very long silence from your end. Thank you for mentioning about the Irish who fought on the side of the Boers in the Anglo-Irish Boer War. That gives me an insight into it which I was previously unaware of. With gratitude: Ray in Oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Lyn" <franklyn@tiscali.co.za> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:45 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] The Irish Diaspora > Hello Folks > > Joining the throng of "foreigners"of Irish origin on the List, I live in > South Africa. We have here, at the bottom end of Africa, a fine selection > of > Murphys, O'Reillys, Duffys, O'Callahans, McBrides, Earlys, et al. During > the > Anglo-Boer War (1899 - 1902) many Irishmen fought for the Boers against > the > British. The Boer forces considered their Irish Regiment to be highly > effective. But, I digress. > > I'm hoping to find background on my g-grandfather, Francis EARLY, b. 1826 > or > 27 in Lisburn. I know Lisburn isn't in Tyrone, but it's not far away. > Can't > find a trace of the family in Antrim or Down. Griffiths Valuations lists > a > lot of EARLYs in Tyrone, so....

Ray and Clare, Thanks so much for the suggestions. I did contact Harry Connors, but as he has had some computer problems, he couldn't find the contact info for Guy Gregory. I thought I might post on the Gregory list in hopes of finding him. The headstone info and obit info are the same, perhaps provided by the same person. History can sure be a mystery. I believe I will start with the "Ballynasollus" leads, as I believe the Griffiths' to have been after Eliza and her family left Tyrone. Does that make sense? Any suggestions as to how best to proceed will be gratefully accepted. Janet > From: ray15@optusnet.com.au > To: janetkinsella@hotmail.com; cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] FW: Help w/placename - spelling vs pronunciation GREGORY in Tyrone > Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:37:01 +1000 > > Hello Janet. > > Have you obtained these extracts from Griffiths for GREGORY in Tyrone? from > Failte Romhat at: > http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > (where I merely put GREGORY in the surname field, and selected Tyrone as the > county) > (You might find other helpful results by searching in ALL locations and not > limitiing it to Tyrone) > > Surname First Name Townland Parish County > Gregory William Knockonny Errigal Keerogue Tyrone > Gregory James Killymorgan Errigal Keerogue Tyrone > Gregory Edward Scarvagherin Ardstraw Tyrone > > > They might provide you with a starting point, by providing the two parishes > mentioned. > > > NEXT: I expect that you are familiar with this obituary for your ancestress: > http://www.connorshistory.com/Beaton/EGBMObituary.html > > Have you been in contact with the Guy GREGORY who provided that to the site? > I ask, because with his being a descendant in the male line, he may have > already done a lot of basic research, and might already have details about > the location in Tyrone for you. > > And don't forget that the informant for the obituary might have had ONE of > the two locational facts "wrong". > For example if they were taking that information from some handwritten > document, they might have made a transcription error themselves. > > NEXT: Ballinsloe is very close in spelling to Ballinasloe -- but that is > located in County Galway; or so my google searches seem to indicate. > > FINALLY, have you tried to search in www.seanruad.com , looking just for a > townland starting with the letter B in the county of Tyrone? > There are several results there which MIGHT, with different spelling or > pronunciation transcritpions come close in appearance to your Ballinsloe. > For example: > > Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province > > Balix Lower 537 Tyrone Strabane Lower Donaghedy Gortin Ulster > > Ballaghalare 213 Tyrone Strabane Lower Donaghedy Strabane Ulster > > Ballee 540 Tyrone Strabane Lower Leckpatrick Strabane Ulster > > Ballyblagh 205 Tyrone Dungannon Upper Ballyclog Cookstown Ulster > > Ballyfolliard 392 Tyrone Strabane Lower Ardstraw Castlederg Ulster > > Ballynaloan 140 Tyrone Strabane Lower Ardstraw Castlederg Ulster > > Ballynasollus 925 Tyrone Strabane Upper Bodoney Upper Gortin Ulster > Ballynasollus 261 Tyrone Dungannon Upper Derryloran Cookstown Ulster > Ballynasollus 1,076 Tyrone Dungannon Upper Kildress Cookstown Ulster > > > HTH. > Ray in Oz > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Hello, > > Long time lurker, first time poster. My gggrandmother's cemetery record > > shows her as born 15AUG 1828, "Ballinsloe", CountyTyrone, Ireland. Her > > name was Elizabeth (Eliza) Gregory. (She may have been born in 1828) She > > came to Galena, Illinois, USA in 1843, to join a brother and sister > > already here - Ellen and James. Later census records show an Ann and a > > Hannah Gregory in Ellen's household, but do not give a relationship. > > Eliza was Roman Catholic, and was most likely illiterate. The place names > > would probably have been supplied by her daughter(s), and would likely > > have been a phonetic spelling representation of what they may have heard. > > My first question to the List is - Is anyone aware of a place that would > > sound like Ballinsole but perhaps have a different spelling? > > Thank You for your help, > > Janet > _________________________________________________________________ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_access_112008

Thanks, Wendy. I have tried McCl* and Cle*, but will try McC* next. I'll work on it tonight during Monday night football! Alice -----Original Message----- From: Wendy Bloomfield <wgb@iinet.net.au> To: amroche1@aol.com Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 4:32 pm Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] McClelland Passenger Search Hi Alice,? ? When searching in Ancestry.com, did you try using: McC*? This will bring up all the names beginning with McC, might be a long search, but you may get lucky. You MUST put in three letters then * for this to work.? ? Cheers? Wendy? Perth, West Aussie? ? amroche1@aol.com wrote:? > You're right, Ray. I just hit reply and the address line showed only your email address. So, when I hit "reply to all" I got both your address and the list address. >? > While I'm at it...my McClelland family is from Congo, County Tyrone. Does anyone know how far away Congo, County Fermanagh is? I was surprised to find that there are 2 Congos in Northern Ireland. Another question...my Alexander McClelland came to the US (Manhattan) in 1847 at the age of 16 or 17. He traveled alone. I have been unable to find him on any ship's list. I've used the various spellings including Clelland on the various programs (ie. ancestry.com). No luck. Any suggestions?? >? > Thanks for any help!? >? > Alice? > Albuquerque, NM? >? >? > >? > -----Original Message-----? > From: Ray <ray15@optusnet.com.au>? > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com? > Sent: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 6:25 am? > Subject: [CoTyIre] Reply facility to this list? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > Hello again all.? >? > Sorry if it seems that I am hogging the list at the moment.? >? > The reason for this note, is that on each occasion in the past day or two when I > have intended to REPLY to the LIST, about a posting, regardless of whether I > tried "Reply" or "Reply to All" -- my reply was only addressed to the original > poster and not to the list.? >? > I have noticed that this Tyrone list has become fairly moribund of late, and now > I wonder if this lack of a direct Reply to the list itself might be part of the > reason for that; as I expect (and hope. ha ha) that I am not the only dumb one > around here; and that others might have thought that they were replying to the > list, only to never see their reply posted on it.? >? > It seems to me that we used to have a lot of friendly interactions and > helpfulness on the list, much of which seems to have evaporated in recent times. > I had put that down to just being the nature of some lists, but now I wonder if > this Reply issue might be more relevant to it.? >? > All of this is in complete contrast to the Fermanagh-Gold list, which I know > from postings that some of you are also subscribed to, which is one of the most > dynamic lists which I belong to; with that dynamism seeming to me to be > attributable to a few people. First, they have a list administrator who > interprets his brief VERY WIDELY, so that almost any topic is deemed relevant to > the list -- with all other counties within Ireland not being a limiting factor. > (And Claire this comment is NOT intended as any sort of slight to you, as I have > no complaint at all -- rather I am just trying to be comprehensive in what I am > writing. Secondly, because we have at least one very generous LOCAL who shares > all of her knowledge with us; plus other local experts who chime in from time to > time. And thirdly, with some very "noisy" foreigners who keep the questions and > helpful thoughts pouring in. The result is a list which sometimes overwhelms > with the number of its messages -- especially if!? > one does not read them every day; but which also operates as a world-wide > family, seeming to enfold each other in caring arms. >? > I'd be interested in the thoughts of others on some of these things; but Claire > if you do not want this sort of discussion to occur on-list, please let us know. >? >? > Regards to all.? > Ray in Oz.? >? > -------------? > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland >? >? >? > -------------------------------? > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message? >? >? >? > >? >? > -------------? > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland >? >? > -------------------------------? > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message? >? >

Do you have any first names or dates for anything? I have a subscription to Emerald ancestors and there are several Donaldson marriages for example married at the Aughnacloy Presbyterian Church civil district Clogher Parish Carnteel Patricia New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colin McCallum Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:39 PM To: Co.Tyrone Subject: [CoTyIre] Doandson Listers, I'm researching the Donaldson family from townland of Dernaborey, Parish of Carnteel, Aughnacloy. My next Donaldson family is from the townland of Loughans, Parish of Carnteel, Aughnacloy. Is there anyone out there researching these two families? Regards, Colin McCallum. ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Frank, YOur" I'm hoping to find background on my g-grandfather, Francis EARLY, b. 1826 or 27 in Lisburn. I know Lisburn isn't in Tyrone, but it's not far away. Can't find a trace of the family in Antrim or Down. Griffiths Valuations lists a lot of EARLYs in Tyrone, so.... Question?? Do you want any Early info I can find 1800- 1900? Off or on list? Nelda I'll extract from ancestry.uk.com It gives the ability to search Ireland some too Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837Name Spouse Marriage Date Parish #1. Eliza Binden Richd Early 1825 St Luke Old Street #2. Eliza?? Bindin Richd Early 1825 St Luke Old Street #3. Richd Early Eliza Bindin 1825 St Luke Old Street Extracted from actual photo copy#1 all it added was Witness Hy Biden#2, #3, all the same photo copy ~~~~~~~~~~~~ There maybe a quite a few emails of this subject....

I am sending this again since it did NOT seem to go thru first time! Hi Alice I also looked at Ancestry...are you sure Alexander didn't arrive in 1850? There is an Alexander McClelland age 16 , who left Londonderry and arrived in NY May 18th 1850. His place of origin-Ireland. He sailed on the British Queen.... If you think this may be him...email me off list! Otherwise...it all depends on how you are searching. The name could definitly be miss-spelled OR mis-interpreted. He might have also lied about his age. Sue in NY

Hi, I'm researching in County Tyrone for Gilpin descendants. Not only am I a Gilpin whose ancestry goes from the States to Canada to Ireland, I am doing a one surname study and DNA project, world wide. If you have ever wondered about Genetic Genealogy I have a very nice (so I've been told) web page explaining it all.... http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/ Please feel free to drop by when ever. Nelda L. Percival nee Gilpin

Hi Janet, Some rootsweb mailing list have well over 400-500 members, I admin some of those. On list traffic would chase away most. I also belong to the Genealogy-dna list at rootsweb (my cousin admins it) ... well into 1000 members and traffic of about 200 per day. So having the choice as the list's admin is preferable. The two, Yahoogroups and rootsweb are not comaparable. Both are good for there own reasons. There are good message boards at rootsweb and genforum. they to are different even though they are owned by same company.... You use where your comfortable. nelda

I'm going to try sending this a second time, as it shows up on Rootsweb archives, but I never got a copy of it from the List... From: janetkinsella@hotmail.com To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: Help w/placename - spelling vs pronunciation Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:35:16 -0700 Hello, Long time lurker, first time poster. My gggrandmother's cemetery record shows her as born 15AUG 1828, "Ballinsloe", CountyTyrone, Ireland. Her name was Elizabeth (Eliza) Gregory. (She may have been born in 1828) She came to Galena, Illinois, USA in 1843, to join a brother and sister already here - Ellen and James. Later census records show an Ann and a Hannah Gregory in Ellen's household, but do not give a relationship. Eliza was Roman Catholic, and was most likely illiterate. The place names would probably have been supplied by her daughter(s), and would likely have been a phonetic spelling representation of what they may have heard. My first question to the List is - Is anyone aware of a place that would sound like Ballinsole but perhaps have a different spelling? Thank You for your help, Janet Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. Sign up today. _________________________________________________________________ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the “I’m a PC” Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/

The IreAtlas http://www.seanruad.com/ Townland Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Congo 42 Fermanagh Magherastephana Aghalurcher Lisnaskea http://www.from-ireland.net/tyr/lewis/aghalurcher.htm Counties Tyrone & Fermanagh Lewis Extracts - Civil Parishes Aghalurcher description from Lewis's Topographical Dictionary of Ireland, 1837 Aghalurcher Graveyard Index to names on stones AGHALURCHER, a parish, partly in the barony of CLOGHER, county of TYRONE, but chiefly in that of MAGHERASTEPHENA, county of FERMANAGH, and province of ULSTER, on the mail coach road from Cavan town to Enniskillen; containing, with the towns of Maguire's-bridge and Lisnaskea, 15,218 inhabitants. This parish is situated on Lough Erne, and is 17 miles in length (extending from the island of Cordillar, near Crumcastle, to Ballaghlough, within two miles of Clogher), and 5 miles in breadth. It comprises, according to the Ordnance survey, 47,015¾ statute acres ( including 3157¼ covered with water), of which 4708¼ are in Tyrone, and 42,307½ in Fermanagh, and of which also, about one-fourth are of pasturable mountain and bog. Rob Scottsdale, AZ USA Rob   -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of amroche1@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:27 AM To: ray15@optusnet.com.au; COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Reply facility to this list You're right, Ray. I just hit reply and the address line showed only your email address. So, when I hit "reply to all" I got both your address and the list address. While I'm at it...my McClelland family is from Congo, County Tyrone. Does anyone know how far away Congo, County Fermanagh is? I was surprised to find that there are 2 Congos in Northern Ireland. Another question...my Alexander McClelland came to the US (Manhattan) in 1847 at the age of 16 or 17. He traveled alone. I have been unable to find him on any ship's list. I've used the various spellings including Clelland on the various programs (ie. ancestry.com). No luck. Any suggestions? Thanks for any help! Alice Albuquerque, NM -----Original Message----- From: Ray <ray15@optusnet.com.au> To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 6:25 am Subject: [CoTyIre] Reply facility to this list Hello again all. Sorry if it seems that I am hogging the list at the moment. The reason for this note, is that on each occasion in the past day or two when I have intended to REPLY to the LIST, about a posting, regardless of whether I tried "Reply" or "Reply to All" -- my reply was only addressed to the original poster and not to the list. I have noticed that this Tyrone list has become fairly moribund of late, and now I wonder if this lack of a direct Reply to the list itself might be part of the reason for that; as I expect (and hope. ha ha) that I am not the only dumb one around here; and that others might have thought that they were replying to the list, only to never see their reply posted on it. It seems to me that we used to have a lot of friendly interactions and helpfulness on the list, much of which seems to have evaporated in recent times. I had put that down to just being the nature of some lists, but now I wonder if this Reply issue might be more relevant to it. All of this is in complete contrast to the Fermanagh-Gold list, which I know from postings that some of you are also subscribed to, which is one of the most dynamic lists which I belong to; with that dynamism seeming to me to be attributable to a few people. First, they have a list administrator who interprets his brief VERY WIDELY, so that almost any topic is deemed relevant to the list -- with all other counties within Ireland not being a limiting factor. (And Claire this comment is NOT intended as any sort of slight to you, as I have no complaint at all -- rather I am just trying to be comprehensive in what I am writing. Secondly, because we have at least one very generous LOCAL who shares all of her knowledge with us; plus other local experts who chime in from time to time. And thirdly, with some very "noisy" foreigners who keep the questions and helpful thoughts pouring in. The result is a list which sometimes overwhelms with the number of its messages -- especially if! one does not read them every day; but which also operates as a world-wide family, seeming to enfold each other in caring arms. I'd be interested in the thoughts of others on some of these things; but Claire if you do not want this sort of discussion to occur on-list, please let us know. Regards to all. Ray in Oz. ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good morning again, This is to confirm that I hit Reply All and it seems to have done what I expected it to do. I am subscribed to a number of Rootsweb lists for genealogy. I have become used to them, but they are unlike Yahoogroups in that at first they require some getting used to. The golden rule in all these Lists and Groups is that the configurations or settings are how the List or Group owner wishes. In Yahoo one gets so used to just hitting "Reply" that its almost a subconscious effort. In Rootsweb it needs one to think first! Yahoo groups seem to tend to want to keep members discussing in group posts rather than between themselves. I was recently subscribed to a Rootsweb list for a Scottish area and was surprised at how much back channel communication there was, and they wanted it to remain that way. To my way of thinking, doing things that way it limits the amount of knowledge that might be shared around might not reach those who would like to read it and, who might add to it. Janet

Hi Alice I also looked at Ancestry...are you sure Alexander didn't arrive in 1850? There is an Alexander McClelland age 16 , who left Londonderry and arrived in NY May 18th 1850. His place of origin-Ireland. He sailed on the British Queen.... If you think this may be him...email me off list! Otherwise...it all depends on how you are searching. The name could definitly be miss-spelled OR mis-interpreted. He might have also lied about his age. Sue in NY **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)