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    1. [CoTyIre] Please Help! I found info stating John Furlong Naturalized from Great Britain in 1841 - does that mean he isn't from Ireland?
    2. Jill Wilson
    3. Well...<long sigh>... I have spoken to the caretaker at St. Joseph's Cemetery in Johnson County Iowa and he tells me that John Furlong's headstone says "John Furlong 1814 - 1854" and nothing else. He also stated that it's located in the portion of the cemetery where people didn't "buy the lots" meaning he either had no family to pay for the burial, or the family was too poor. I would assume the latter because he did leave his wife, Jane Jones Furlong, behind with 8 children to care for! The caretaker did say that the headstone was really nice though. (Maybe she saved up and put a nice one there when she could afford to do so?) He then reccommended I contact the Johnson County Historical Society, but they had no info and reccommended I speak to the Johnson County Auditor/Recorder's office - they too had no info. As far as my hopes for finding records containing the names of his parents and place of origin they are pretty dim. Since John died in 1854 there were no records kept at that time. And I can't seem to find anything for a John Furlong before 1839 in the Immigration Index. My only hope at this point is this little blurb I came across when I Googled "Early Settlers of Old Man's Creek" in Iowa. The article is titled: "First Naturalizations in Johnson County, Iowa, USA." located at http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofjohnson00iowa/historyofjohnson00iowa_djvu.txt In the article it mentions John Furlong Naturalizing in 1841 from "Great Britain". Forgive my geographical ignorance but what does this mean? Is he if from England instead of Ireland or just a certain part of Ireland that belonged to Great Britain in 1841? The following is copied from the article (John Furlong is mentioned near the end of it): FIRST NATURALIZATIONS. On June 1, 1841, were issued the first naturalization papers ever made in Johnson county. The following named gentlemen from Ireland appeared before the district court in Iowa City, there solemnly abjured their allegiance to the Queen of Great Britain, and swore allegiance to the United States: James Wicks, John Mullin, Hugh Deen, Harmon Luken, Francis Kerr, Patrick Smith, Jeremiah Driskel, Michael Keff', William Croty, Andrew McWilliams, John Hurly, John Conway, James Roach, John Conboy. On the next day, June 2, the following Germans came into court and made oath of their intention to become citizens of the United States: Casper Nick, native and subject of Prussia; Joseph Gross, of Wirtem- burg; Mathias Laner, of Baden; Casper Dunkel, of Bavaria; Philip Schwartfager, of Hanover; Ferdmand Haverstraw, of Baden. On following days during the same term the same oath was taken by Robert Simpson, John Furlong and Morris Kelly, subjects of Great Britain, and John Luken, subject of the King of Hanover. Thanks to anyone willing to offer some info. Jill Wilson

    12/02/2008 09:06:40
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Hogg/Bayne/Cousley/Farrell
    2. Ray
    3. Joy: what a lovely posting. Thank you for doing so. And I am so glad that you are now inspired to help others through the kindnesses received on this list. This is the sort of thing which makes genealogy so special, and Irish genealogy in particular. Best wishes. Ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Hogg" <joyhogghwh@yahoo.com> >A David Bayne contacted me yesterday to let me know he had data on these >people. What a marvelous surprise! My husband, David Hogg, is really >delighted that someone would give him the gift of his ancestry. Obviously >these kinds of lists can make a big difference when we are Googled out of >leads and our subscription sites have nothing more for us. Now I will join >other lists to help others with information I have on other lines. Thanks >to all who care to share. > Joy Hogg

    12/01/2008 06:16:21
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Samuel Hogg/Sarah Jane Farrell
    2. David Bayne
    3. On Nov 30, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Joy Hogg wrote: > Hello fellow genealogists. My husband has very little information on > the Hogg family. His father George Ernest came to Cleveland Ohio USA > from Cookstown in the early 1920's. Son of Samuel Hogg and Sarah Jane > Farrell(1973-1944). They had a slew of children including a Nancie > Cousley Hogg, George, Fred, Harold, William and Sam, who all > immigrated as well although Nancie went back. Any connections or > information?I would have some of the American side to share. > Joy Hogg > Hi Cousin Joy, My paternal grandmother was Selina Hogg (one of Sam's slew). She married William Bayne and they lived at Tamlaghtmore a couple of miles out of Cookstown on the road to Moneymore. I have a large sheet of paper with a lot of Hogg information on it compiled by Audrey Kenny (nee Hogg)who lives in Canada. I also have some other Hogg related genealogy stuff - the accuracy is reasonable but not guaranteed. The line has been traced back to Samuel's grandfather James Hogg who married Sarah McKee sometime before 1814. I can send you some more detailed information as a pdf file. David Bayne

    12/01/2008 02:53:13
    1. [CoTyIre] Robert Miller/Elizabeth Mitchell
    2. Ginni Lind
    3. Robert Miller b. abt 1814 Ireland Elizabeth/Elisabeth Mitchell b. abt 1827 Ireland IGI - married 9 Jun 1846 Ballygawley Presbyterian Church, Errigal Keerogue, Tyrone, Ireland. Going to Canada were a son John H Miller was b. 18 Sept 1848 and living in Chagrin Falls, Cuyahoga, Ohio - 1850 US Census. Any information on their migration would be helpful. Plus any information about Robert Miller's siblings and parent's family and Elizabeth Mitchell's siblings and parent's family. Regards, Ginni Lind vrlind@chartermi.net

    12/01/2008 09:10:38
    1. [CoTyIre] Cooper Families
    2. James P. Murphy
    3. I am trying to identify the origins in Co. Tyrone of: James Cooper, b. 1818 in Tyrone; died 1903 in Jefferson Co., Pa. USA James Cooper, b. 1786 in Tyrone; died 1862 in Butler Co., Pa. USA Thank you in advance for any leads or suggestions. James P. Murphy Princeton, NJ 08542 USA jpmurphy@jpmurphy.com Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/01/2008 08:25:57
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones
    2. Jill Wilson
    3. Thank you Janet - unfortunately John Furlong died in 1854, Jane Jones Furlong in 1885, and Charles Jones in 1867. But I did use this website for marriage license request, thank you anyway for trying to help. This list is full of kind helpers! Jill On 12/1/08, Janet Kinsella <janetkinsella@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry, > i forgot to say that you can order copies from the site i mentioned. > >> From: janetkinsella@hotmail.com >> To: jillmarie.wilson@gmail.com >> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:50:27 -0700 >> CC: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, >> Ireland. >> >> >> Hi, If He died after about 1899 in Illinois, his death certificate asks >> for Birthplace and for Mother and Father's names and birthplace, there is >> an index at www.cyberdriveillinois.com, under departments and then IL >> State archives, and then databases. Marriage licenses in Illinois don't >> usually have the type of info you are looking for, so I usually look at >> the death info first. The death cret also lists burial place and funeral >> home, which are sometimes good info sources. >> Good Luck, >> Janet, >> >> > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:18:56 -0800 >> > From: jillmarie.wilson@gmail.com >> > To: cagthe@gmail.com >> > CC: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, >> > Ireland. >> > >> > Thank you so much for the time you spent on researching this. >> > >> > You are correct - I am in the US and I don't know anything about Ireland >> > except the bits I have read about the History of the Famines, and some >> > little bits here and there. Thank you for the "Parish" explanation. >> > >> > I really didn't have any good leads as to where John Furlong originated >> > from >> > but I did come across some ship manefests mentioning John Furlong and >> > Jane >> > as well but I couldn't say with any certainty that any of them were the >> > correct individuals. I've taken another look at my files and there are >> > just >> > too many John Furlongs to be certain about any of them. >> > >> > I will try to obtain a copy of their marriage certificate in Illinois, >> > USA >> > to see if it has their parents names. Would you mind if I contact you >> > again >> > if I get them? >> > >> > Thank you again, >> > Jill >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Claire K <cagthe@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Hi Jill, >> > > >> > > Welcome to the list! I'll send you what information I have, in >> > > separate >> > > emails so it doesn't get confused. FIrst up, the Furlongs. >> > > >> > > From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, IRE >> > > and >> > > Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): >> > > >> > > "Furlong. This family settled in Co. Wexford at the end of the >> > > thirteenth >> > > century and the name occurs as one of the most numerous in five >> > > baronies of >> > > that county in the 'census' of 1659. MIF. Map Wexford." >> > > >> > > MIF = for more info, see MORE IRISH FAMILIES >> > > Map Wexford = on the surname map of Wexford, "Furlong" appears in SW >> > > Wexford, near the borders of Waterford and Kilkenny >> > > >> > > Of course, just because the name is traditionally associated with >> > > Wexford >> > > does not mean that your particular Furlongs came from Wexford. I >> > > searched >> > > the members-only databases at the Ulster Historical Foundation, and >> > > see that >> > > there are 10 marriages, 7 births, and 3 deaths, all in the Antrim and >> > > Down >> > > collection of church records, so there were at least some Furlongs up >> > > north. >> > > (Not many, but some). >> > > >> > > Matheson's 1890 Distribution of Surnames shows 33 in Leinster and 3 in >> > > Munster -- and none in Ulster or Connaught -- which supports the >> > > "centered >> > > around Wexford" idea. >> > > >> > > A 1791-1829 database of Apothecary Licenses shows a James in Wexford >> > > (1828), and a Thomas and a William in Dublin (1804 and 1812, >> > > respectively). >> > > >> > > There is also a report of a John Furlong murdered in 1844 in >> > > Tipperary. >> > > >> > > There are 78 entries for Furlongs in the (all-Ireland) Index to >> > > Printed >> > > Irish Will Calendars, 1878-1900, and 42 in the (all-Ireland) Irish >> > > Will >> > > Calendars, 1858-1878. In the latter, most that indicate a location >> > > are in >> > > Waterford, some in Cork, but you'd have to see the full calendars in >> > > Dublin >> > > to find the details of these. >> > > >> > > None of this is definitive, of course, but I would probably play the >> > > odds >> > > and start looking for your Furlongs in Wexford and vicinity. >> > > >> > > I see that you have reason to think your Joneses are from Tyrone, but >> > > did >> > > you have reason to think your Furlongs were, as well? (Or was it just >> > > a >> > > case of, they married each other, so may have been from the same place >> > > in >> > > Ireland?) Assuming you don't have any stronger reason to think they >> > > were >> > > from Tyrone, I'd stick with my suggestion of starting at the other end >> > > of >> > > the country. >> > > >> > > Have you found passenger lists for either your Furlong or your >> > > Joneses? >> > > The port at which they embarked could be further circumstantial >> > > evidence of >> > > where they originated. >> > > >> > > Hope that helps. >> > > >> > > Claire K. >> > > CTI List Admin. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Jill Wilson wrote: >> > > >> > > Subject: Irish Surname Research: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, >> > >> Ireland. >> > >> Hello All, >> > >> >> > >> My name is Jill Wilson, a first time poster... wondering if anyone >> > >> recognizes Furlong or Jones surnames? Researching my Irish ancestors >> > >> and >> > >> making a trip to Ireland in Feb - Mar 2009. Need help locating names >> > >> of >> > >> John Furlong's parents, and the Jone's parents, their homesteads, or >> > >> headstones, anything... Ideas or research recommendations would be >> > >> very >> > >> much appreciated. >> > >> >> > >> John Furlong - born abt 1814 in Ireland. Died in 1854 Johnson >> > >> County, >> > >> Iowa >> > >> City, Iowa, USA. He Married Jane Jones Aug 1, 1839 in Sagamon, >> > >> Illinois, >> > >> USA. And settled in Iowa, USA in early 1840's. >> > >> >> > >> Jane Jones (Furlong) - wife of John Furlong. Born abt 1820 (possibly >> > >> 1810) >> > >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died July 7, 1885 York Township, Iowa >> > >> County, >> > >> Iowa, >> > >> USA. She was likely a "Native of the Parish of Cappagh" like her >> > >> brother >> > >> (I >> > >> assume this must means she was a member of the Parish?) >> > >> >> > >> Charles Jones, brother to Jane, born abt 1797 a Native of Parish of >> > >> Cappagh, >> > >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died Nov 12, 1867 in Iowa County, Iowa, USA. >> > >> >> > >> Thank you to anyone kind enough to respond, >> > >> Jill Wilson >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jill Wilson >> > >> > ------------- >> > Our community web-site: >> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the "I'm a PC" Messenger >> themepack now. >> hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ >> >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008 -- Sent from my mobile device Jill Wilson

    12/01/2008 03:54:12
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones
    2. Janet Kinsella
    3. Sorry, i forgot to say that you can order copies from the site i mentioned. > From: janetkinsella@hotmail.com > To: jillmarie.wilson@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 07:50:27 -0700 > CC: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland. > > > Hi, If He died after about 1899 in Illinois, his death certificate asks for Birthplace and for Mother and Father's names and birthplace, there is an index at www.cyberdriveillinois.com, under departments and then IL State archives, and then databases. Marriage licenses in Illinois don't usually have the type of info you are looking for, so I usually look at the death info first. The death cret also lists burial place and funeral home, which are sometimes good info sources. > Good Luck, > Janet, > > > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:18:56 -0800 > > From: jillmarie.wilson@gmail.com > > To: cagthe@gmail.com > > CC: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland. > > > > Thank you so much for the time you spent on researching this. > > > > You are correct - I am in the US and I don't know anything about Ireland > > except the bits I have read about the History of the Famines, and some > > little bits here and there. Thank you for the "Parish" explanation. > > > > I really didn't have any good leads as to where John Furlong originated from > > but I did come across some ship manefests mentioning John Furlong and Jane > > as well but I couldn't say with any certainty that any of them were the > > correct individuals. I've taken another look at my files and there are just > > too many John Furlongs to be certain about any of them. > > > > I will try to obtain a copy of their marriage certificate in Illinois, USA > > to see if it has their parents names. Would you mind if I contact you again > > if I get them? > > > > Thank you again, > > Jill > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Claire K <cagthe@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Jill, > > > > > > Welcome to the list! I'll send you what information I have, in separate > > > emails so it doesn't get confused. FIrst up, the Furlongs. > > > > > > From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, IRE and > > > Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): > > > > > > "Furlong. This family settled in Co. Wexford at the end of the thirteenth > > > century and the name occurs as one of the most numerous in five baronies of > > > that county in the 'census' of 1659. MIF. Map Wexford." > > > > > > MIF = for more info, see MORE IRISH FAMILIES > > > Map Wexford = on the surname map of Wexford, "Furlong" appears in SW > > > Wexford, near the borders of Waterford and Kilkenny > > > > > > Of course, just because the name is traditionally associated with Wexford > > > does not mean that your particular Furlongs came from Wexford. I searched > > > the members-only databases at the Ulster Historical Foundation, and see that > > > there are 10 marriages, 7 births, and 3 deaths, all in the Antrim and Down > > > collection of church records, so there were at least some Furlongs up north. > > > (Not many, but some). > > > > > > Matheson's 1890 Distribution of Surnames shows 33 in Leinster and 3 in > > > Munster -- and none in Ulster or Connaught -- which supports the "centered > > > around Wexford" idea. > > > > > > A 1791-1829 database of Apothecary Licenses shows a James in Wexford > > > (1828), and a Thomas and a William in Dublin (1804 and 1812, respectively). > > > > > > There is also a report of a John Furlong murdered in 1844 in Tipperary. > > > > > > There are 78 entries for Furlongs in the (all-Ireland) Index to Printed > > > Irish Will Calendars, 1878-1900, and 42 in the (all-Ireland) Irish Will > > > Calendars, 1858-1878. In the latter, most that indicate a location are in > > > Waterford, some in Cork, but you'd have to see the full calendars in Dublin > > > to find the details of these. > > > > > > None of this is definitive, of course, but I would probably play the odds > > > and start looking for your Furlongs in Wexford and vicinity. > > > > > > I see that you have reason to think your Joneses are from Tyrone, but did > > > you have reason to think your Furlongs were, as well? (Or was it just a > > > case of, they married each other, so may have been from the same place in > > > Ireland?) Assuming you don't have any stronger reason to think they were > > > from Tyrone, I'd stick with my suggestion of starting at the other end of > > > the country. > > > > > > Have you found passenger lists for either your Furlong or your Joneses? > > > The port at which they embarked could be further circumstantial evidence of > > > where they originated. > > > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > > > Claire K. > > > CTI List Admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Jill Wilson wrote: > > > > > > Subject: Irish Surname Research: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, > > >> Ireland. > > >> Hello All, > > >> > > >> My name is Jill Wilson, a first time poster... wondering if anyone > > >> recognizes Furlong or Jones surnames? Researching my Irish ancestors and > > >> making a trip to Ireland in Feb - Mar 2009. Need help locating names of > > >> John Furlong's parents, and the Jone's parents, their homesteads, or > > >> headstones, anything... Ideas or research recommendations would be very > > >> much appreciated. > > >> > > >> John Furlong - born abt 1814 in Ireland. Died in 1854 Johnson County, > > >> Iowa > > >> City, Iowa, USA. He Married Jane Jones Aug 1, 1839 in Sagamon, Illinois, > > >> USA. And settled in Iowa, USA in early 1840's. > > >> > > >> Jane Jones (Furlong) - wife of John Furlong. Born abt 1820 (possibly > > >> 1810) > > >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died July 7, 1885 York Township, Iowa County, > > >> Iowa, > > >> USA. She was likely a "Native of the Parish of Cappagh" like her brother > > >> (I > > >> assume this must means she was a member of the Parish?) > > >> > > >> Charles Jones, brother to Jane, born abt 1797 a Native of Parish of > > >> Cappagh, > > >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died Nov 12, 1867 in Iowa County, Iowa, USA. > > >> > > >> Thank you to anyone kind enough to respond, > > >> Jill Wilson > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jill Wilson > > > > ------------- > > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Proud to be a PC? Show the world. 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    12/01/2008 12:54:52
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland.
    2. Janet Kinsella
    3. Hi, If He died after about 1899 in Illinois, his death certificate asks for Birthplace and for Mother and Father's names and birthplace, there is an index at www.cyberdriveillinois.com, under departments and then IL State archives, and then databases. Marriage licenses in Illinois don't usually have the type of info you are looking for, so I usually look at the death info first. The death cret also lists burial place and funeral home, which are sometimes good info sources. Good Luck, Janet, > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 01:18:56 -0800 > From: jillmarie.wilson@gmail.com > To: cagthe@gmail.com > CC: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland. > > Thank you so much for the time you spent on researching this. > > You are correct - I am in the US and I don't know anything about Ireland > except the bits I have read about the History of the Famines, and some > little bits here and there. Thank you for the "Parish" explanation. > > I really didn't have any good leads as to where John Furlong originated from > but I did come across some ship manefests mentioning John Furlong and Jane > as well but I couldn't say with any certainty that any of them were the > correct individuals. I've taken another look at my files and there are just > too many John Furlongs to be certain about any of them. > > I will try to obtain a copy of their marriage certificate in Illinois, USA > to see if it has their parents names. Would you mind if I contact you again > if I get them? > > Thank you again, > Jill > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Claire K <cagthe@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Jill, > > > > Welcome to the list! I'll send you what information I have, in separate > > emails so it doesn't get confused. FIrst up, the Furlongs. > > > > From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, IRE and > > Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): > > > > "Furlong. This family settled in Co. Wexford at the end of the thirteenth > > century and the name occurs as one of the most numerous in five baronies of > > that county in the 'census' of 1659. MIF. Map Wexford." > > > > MIF = for more info, see MORE IRISH FAMILIES > > Map Wexford = on the surname map of Wexford, "Furlong" appears in SW > > Wexford, near the borders of Waterford and Kilkenny > > > > Of course, just because the name is traditionally associated with Wexford > > does not mean that your particular Furlongs came from Wexford. I searched > > the members-only databases at the Ulster Historical Foundation, and see that > > there are 10 marriages, 7 births, and 3 deaths, all in the Antrim and Down > > collection of church records, so there were at least some Furlongs up north. > > (Not many, but some). > > > > Matheson's 1890 Distribution of Surnames shows 33 in Leinster and 3 in > > Munster -- and none in Ulster or Connaught -- which supports the "centered > > around Wexford" idea. > > > > A 1791-1829 database of Apothecary Licenses shows a James in Wexford > > (1828), and a Thomas and a William in Dublin (1804 and 1812, respectively). > > > > There is also a report of a John Furlong murdered in 1844 in Tipperary. > > > > There are 78 entries for Furlongs in the (all-Ireland) Index to Printed > > Irish Will Calendars, 1878-1900, and 42 in the (all-Ireland) Irish Will > > Calendars, 1858-1878. In the latter, most that indicate a location are in > > Waterford, some in Cork, but you'd have to see the full calendars in Dublin > > to find the details of these. > > > > None of this is definitive, of course, but I would probably play the odds > > and start looking for your Furlongs in Wexford and vicinity. > > > > I see that you have reason to think your Joneses are from Tyrone, but did > > you have reason to think your Furlongs were, as well? (Or was it just a > > case of, they married each other, so may have been from the same place in > > Ireland?) Assuming you don't have any stronger reason to think they were > > from Tyrone, I'd stick with my suggestion of starting at the other end of > > the country. > > > > Have you found passenger lists for either your Furlong or your Joneses? > > The port at which they embarked could be further circumstantial evidence of > > where they originated. > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > Claire K. > > CTI List Admin. > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Jill Wilson wrote: > > > > Subject: Irish Surname Research: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, > >> Ireland. > >> Hello All, > >> > >> My name is Jill Wilson, a first time poster... wondering if anyone > >> recognizes Furlong or Jones surnames? Researching my Irish ancestors and > >> making a trip to Ireland in Feb - Mar 2009. Need help locating names of > >> John Furlong's parents, and the Jone's parents, their homesteads, or > >> headstones, anything... Ideas or research recommendations would be very > >> much appreciated. > >> > >> John Furlong - born abt 1814 in Ireland. Died in 1854 Johnson County, > >> Iowa > >> City, Iowa, USA. He Married Jane Jones Aug 1, 1839 in Sagamon, Illinois, > >> USA. And settled in Iowa, USA in early 1840's. > >> > >> Jane Jones (Furlong) - wife of John Furlong. Born abt 1820 (possibly > >> 1810) > >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died July 7, 1885 York Township, Iowa County, > >> Iowa, > >> USA. She was likely a "Native of the Parish of Cappagh" like her brother > >> (I > >> assume this must means she was a member of the Parish?) > >> > >> Charles Jones, brother to Jane, born abt 1797 a Native of Parish of > >> Cappagh, > >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died Nov 12, 1867 in Iowa County, Iowa, USA. > >> > >> Thank you to anyone kind enough to respond, > >> Jill Wilson > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Jill Wilson > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the “I’m a PC” Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/

    12/01/2008 12:50:27
    1. [CoTyIre] Hogg/Bayne/Cousley/Farrell
    2. Joy Hogg
    3. A David Bayne contacted me yesterday to let me know he had data on these people. What a marvelous surprise! My husband, David Hogg, is really delighted that someone would give him the gift of his ancestry. Obviously these kinds of lists can make a big difference when we are Googled out of leads and our subscription sites have nothing more for us. Now I will join other lists to help others with information I have on other lines. Thanks to all who care to share. Joy Hogg

    11/30/2008 11:50:00
    1. [CoTyIre] Calling All Ulster Authors
    2. Jim McKane
    3. Hello - I am the webmaster of UlsterHeritage.com and its affiliated websites. We are offering several Ebooks (electronic books) related to Northern Ireland for sale. We would, especially, be interested in ebooks about history, travel, genealogy, and recipes. We offer complete security of your ebook and payments using Payloadz and PayPal. * We would like to include YOUR publications.* Please contact me for further details of this easy method of creating further income from your writings. All the Best, Jim -- EFFECTIVE June 1, 2008 James A. McKane 528 Mallory Beach Rd., R.R.5 Wiarton, ON N0H 2T0 (519) 534-0988 Prev. 192 Baker St., Waterloo N2T 2L4 www.jamesmckane.com www.ulsterheritage.com

    11/30/2008 10:39:21
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland.
    2. Jill Wilson
    3. Thank you so much for the time you spent on researching this. You are correct - I am in the US and I don't know anything about Ireland except the bits I have read about the History of the Famines, and some little bits here and there. Thank you for the "Parish" explanation. I really didn't have any good leads as to where John Furlong originated from but I did come across some ship manefests mentioning John Furlong and Jane as well but I couldn't say with any certainty that any of them were the correct individuals. I've taken another look at my files and there are just too many John Furlongs to be certain about any of them. I will try to obtain a copy of their marriage certificate in Illinois, USA to see if it has their parents names. Would you mind if I contact you again if I get them? Thank you again, Jill On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Claire K <cagthe@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jill, > > Welcome to the list! I'll send you what information I have, in separate > emails so it doesn't get confused. FIrst up, the Furlongs. > > From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, IRE and > Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): > > "Furlong. This family settled in Co. Wexford at the end of the thirteenth > century and the name occurs as one of the most numerous in five baronies of > that county in the 'census' of 1659. MIF. Map Wexford." > > MIF = for more info, see MORE IRISH FAMILIES > Map Wexford = on the surname map of Wexford, "Furlong" appears in SW > Wexford, near the borders of Waterford and Kilkenny > > Of course, just because the name is traditionally associated with Wexford > does not mean that your particular Furlongs came from Wexford. I searched > the members-only databases at the Ulster Historical Foundation, and see that > there are 10 marriages, 7 births, and 3 deaths, all in the Antrim and Down > collection of church records, so there were at least some Furlongs up north. > (Not many, but some). > > Matheson's 1890 Distribution of Surnames shows 33 in Leinster and 3 in > Munster -- and none in Ulster or Connaught -- which supports the "centered > around Wexford" idea. > > A 1791-1829 database of Apothecary Licenses shows a James in Wexford > (1828), and a Thomas and a William in Dublin (1804 and 1812, respectively). > > There is also a report of a John Furlong murdered in 1844 in Tipperary. > > There are 78 entries for Furlongs in the (all-Ireland) Index to Printed > Irish Will Calendars, 1878-1900, and 42 in the (all-Ireland) Irish Will > Calendars, 1858-1878. In the latter, most that indicate a location are in > Waterford, some in Cork, but you'd have to see the full calendars in Dublin > to find the details of these. > > None of this is definitive, of course, but I would probably play the odds > and start looking for your Furlongs in Wexford and vicinity. > > I see that you have reason to think your Joneses are from Tyrone, but did > you have reason to think your Furlongs were, as well? (Or was it just a > case of, they married each other, so may have been from the same place in > Ireland?) Assuming you don't have any stronger reason to think they were > from Tyrone, I'd stick with my suggestion of starting at the other end of > the country. > > Have you found passenger lists for either your Furlong or your Joneses? > The port at which they embarked could be further circumstantial evidence of > where they originated. > > Hope that helps. > > Claire K. > CTI List Admin. > > > > > On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Jill Wilson wrote: > > Subject: Irish Surname Research: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, >> Ireland. >> Hello All, >> >> My name is Jill Wilson, a first time poster... wondering if anyone >> recognizes Furlong or Jones surnames? Researching my Irish ancestors and >> making a trip to Ireland in Feb - Mar 2009. Need help locating names of >> John Furlong's parents, and the Jone's parents, their homesteads, or >> headstones, anything... Ideas or research recommendations would be very >> much appreciated. >> >> John Furlong - born abt 1814 in Ireland. Died in 1854 Johnson County, >> Iowa >> City, Iowa, USA. He Married Jane Jones Aug 1, 1839 in Sagamon, Illinois, >> USA. And settled in Iowa, USA in early 1840's. >> >> Jane Jones (Furlong) - wife of John Furlong. Born abt 1820 (possibly >> 1810) >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died July 7, 1885 York Township, Iowa County, >> Iowa, >> USA. She was likely a "Native of the Parish of Cappagh" like her brother >> (I >> assume this must means she was a member of the Parish?) >> >> Charles Jones, brother to Jane, born abt 1797 a Native of Parish of >> Cappagh, >> Tyrone County, Ireland. Died Nov 12, 1867 in Iowa County, Iowa, USA. >> >> Thank you to anyone kind enough to respond, >> Jill Wilson >> >> > -- Jill Wilson

    11/30/2008 06:18:56
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: FLEMING lookup?
    2. C Agthe
    3. Hi list, I had a request for a lookup for MacLysaght's Irish surnames book for Fleming and thought I'd send it to the list for posterity. Maybe it will help others. From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, Ire. and Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): "Fleming (a man from Flanders). Usually gaelicized Pleamonn [accent on the "e"]. Established at Slane in the twelfth century; now numerous in all the four provinces. Bibl. IF. Map Meath." Bibl = see BIBLIOGRAPHY OF IRISH FAMILY HISTORY IF = see IRISH FAMILIES Map Meath = surname map shows "Fleming" in northern Meath, about equidistant from Cavan and Louth Hope that helps! Regards, Claire K.

    11/30/2008 03:12:55
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland.
    2. Patricia O'Shea
    3. Hello Jill - hope you have a wonderful time, it is difficult not to when you visit Ireland. I don't have an answer to your queries but there is plenty of information on Cappagh through Google if you haven't already done this. Also, FURLONG seems to be largely a Wexford name - there are references to the name elsewhere but the great majority of mentions in the Griffiths are in Wexford with another bunch in Wicklow. All the best with your research and best wishes for your trip. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland. > Hello All, > > My name is Jill Wilson, a first time poster... wondering if anyone > recognizes Furlong or Jones surnames? Researching my Irish ancestors and > making a trip to Ireland in Feb - Mar 2009. Need help locating names of > John Furlong's parents, and the Jone's parents, their homesteads, or > headstones, anything... Ideas or research recommendations would be very > much appreciated. > > John Furlong - born abt 1814 in Ireland. Died in 1854 Johnson County, > Iowa > City, Iowa, USA. He Married Jane Jones Aug 1, 1839 in Sagamon, Illinois, > USA. And settled in Iowa, USA in early 1840's. > > Jane Jones (Furlong) - wife of John Furlong. Born abt 1820 (possibly > 1810) > Tyrone County, Ireland. Died July 7, 1885 York Township, Iowa County, > Iowa, > USA. She was likely a "Native of the Parish of Cappagh" like her brother > (I > assume this must means she was a member of the Parish?) > > Charles Jones, brother to Jane, born abt 1797 a Native of Parish of > Cappagh, > Tyrone County, Ireland. Died Nov 12, 1867 in Iowa County, Iowa, USA. > > Thank you to anyone kind enough to respond, > Jill Wilson

    11/30/2008 02:53:26
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Samuel Hogg/Sarah Jane Farrell (1873-1944) Cookstown Tyrone County
    2. Claire K
    3. Hi Joy, Have you tried the 1901 Tyrone census index? That would help you pinpoint where in the Cookstown District the Hogg and Farrell families came from -- whether the town itself or one of the outlying townlands. Once you have a location from the 1901 census, you can check the 1911 census through the LDS -- and be prepared for major discrepancies in ages of adults. The 1901 Tyrone census index is on microfiche in a binder, so at libraries is sometimes shelved and sometimes with the microforms. Do you have ship passenger lists for all of the family (siblings of your direct ancestors included)? Manifests this recent can really surprise you with the amount of detail they show. How about naturalization documents for any who naturalized in the US? You could also check Cookstown BMDs to try to pinpoint your Hogg family origins. The all-Ireland indexes are widely available, including through the LDS, so you should be able to determine which Hoggs in the Cookstown District are yours. I don't think it's a very common name -- I do a lot of Cookstown research and don't recognize it as a name I've often run into. (But maybe my memory is failing? ;-) ) Hope those ideas help. Claire K. On Nov 30, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Joy Hogg wrote: > Hello fellow genealogists. My husband has very little information > on the Hogg family. His father George Ernest came to Cleveland Ohio > USA from Cookstown in the early 1920's. Son of Samuel Hogg and > Sarah Jane Farrell(1973-1944). They had a slew of children > including a Nancie Cousley Hogg, George, Fred, Harold, William and > Sam, who all immigrated as well although Nancie went back. Any > connections or information?I would have some of the American side > to share. > Joy Hogg >

    11/30/2008 10:12:24
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland.
    2. Claire K
    3. Hi Jill, Here's my second response, this time focusing on your Joneses. Again, starting with Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, IRE and Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): "Jones. This, the most numerous surname in Wales, and common in England, is also one of the most numerous settler names in Ireland. It is found in every county, especially in the larger towns. It has been gaelicized as Mac Seoin [accent on the "o"]. Bibl.; App." Bibl = see Bibliography of Irish Family History App = in Appendix 1 (English and Scottish Surnames in Ireland), Jones is listed as being a principal name in Louth in the 1659 'census'. Not good news if you had no idea where in Ireland your Joneses were from. Since you have reason to think they're from the parish of Cappagh in Co. Tyrone, however, you are in much better shape. Again searching the Ulster Historical Foundation members-only databases, I see Joneses in the 1796 Flaxgrowers list -- 6 in Tyrone parishes, none in Cappagh: John "Joans" in Ardstraw John "Joans" in Desertcrea [Desertcreat] Andrew Jones in Urney James Jones in Clogher Ralph Jones in Arigle [Errigal Keerogue] Richard Jones in Ardstraw -- which doesn't mean that your Joneses couldn't have been in Cappagh at about this time, just that they were much (or at all) involved in flax growing. There are two Joneses in the Co. Tyrone Prerogative Wills, 1536-1858: John of Drummillar [Drummillard, Deserrtcreat?] in 1851, and Rev. James in Urney in 1835. There are other databases with results, but these are the most Tyrone- specific. I know there are listers with Cappagh-specific information -- do any of you see any Joneses in your records? Maybe the Tithe Applotment? Unfortunately, very little of the Cappagh Tithe Applotment is on the CTI site. According to James G. Ryan, IRISH RECORDS: SOURCES FOR FAMILY AND LOCAL HISTORY, (c) 1997 Ancestry (US) and Flyleaf Press (Ireland), Cappagh Church of Ireland baptismal (and marriage and death) records start in 1758 (RC records start 1843, too late for you). These records are available through the local parish or Irish World -- http://www.irish-world.com/ . Finally, Jane, you question the terminology "a native of the parish of Cappagh" and ask if this means a member of the parish. An Irish "parish" is comparable to a US "county" (I assume you're from the US as you're researching US immigrants, but realize that might be a wrong assumption; my apologies, if so) -- although originally a religious entity, the parish was adopted for civil record keeping purposes back when the Church of Ireland was the Established (State) Church and the rectors had both religious and civil responsibilities. So, "a native of the parish of Cappagh" is quite accurate (and quite common usage). I hope one of our listers has some Cappagh references that might help you. Regards, Claire K. CTI Admin. On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Jill Wilson wrote: > ... first time poster... wondering if anyone > recognizes Furlong or Jones surnames? Researching my Irish > ancestors and > making a trip to Ireland in Feb - Mar 2009.... Ideas or research > recommendations would be very > much appreciated. > ... > Jane Jones (Furlong) - wife of John Furlong. Born abt 1820 > (possibly 1810) > Tyrone County, Ireland. Died July 7, 1885 York Township, Iowa > County, Iowa, > USA. She was likely a "Native of the Parish of Cappagh" like her > brother (I > assume this must means she was a member of the Parish?) > > Charles Jones, brother to Jane, born abt 1797 a Native of Parish of > Cappagh, > Tyrone County, Ireland. Died Nov 12, 1867 in Iowa County, Iowa, USA. > > Thank you to anyone kind enough to respond, > Jill Wilson >

    11/30/2008 08:39:38
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland.
    2. Claire K
    3. Hi Jill, Welcome to the list! I'll send you what information I have, in separate emails so it doesn't get confused. FIrst up, the Furlongs. From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, IRE and Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): "Furlong. This family settled in Co. Wexford at the end of the thirteenth century and the name occurs as one of the most numerous in five baronies of that county in the 'census' of 1659. MIF. Map Wexford." MIF = for more info, see MORE IRISH FAMILIES Map Wexford = on the surname map of Wexford, "Furlong" appears in SW Wexford, near the borders of Waterford and Kilkenny Of course, just because the name is traditionally associated with Wexford does not mean that your particular Furlongs came from Wexford. I searched the members-only databases at the Ulster Historical Foundation, and see that there are 10 marriages, 7 births, and 3 deaths, all in the Antrim and Down collection of church records, so there were at least some Furlongs up north. (Not many, but some). Matheson's 1890 Distribution of Surnames shows 33 in Leinster and 3 in Munster -- and none in Ulster or Connaught -- which supports the "centered around Wexford" idea. A 1791-1829 database of Apothecary Licenses shows a James in Wexford (1828), and a Thomas and a William in Dublin (1804 and 1812, respectively). There is also a report of a John Furlong murdered in 1844 in Tipperary. There are 78 entries for Furlongs in the (all-Ireland) Index to Printed Irish Will Calendars, 1878-1900, and 42 in the (all-Ireland) Irish Will Calendars, 1858-1878. In the latter, most that indicate a location are in Waterford, some in Cork, but you'd have to see the full calendars in Dublin to find the details of these. None of this is definitive, of course, but I would probably play the odds and start looking for your Furlongs in Wexford and vicinity. I see that you have reason to think your Joneses are from Tyrone, but did you have reason to think your Furlongs were, as well? (Or was it just a case of, they married each other, so may have been from the same place in Ireland?) Assuming you don't have any stronger reason to think they were from Tyrone, I'd stick with my suggestion of starting at the other end of the country. Have you found passenger lists for either your Furlong or your Joneses? The port at which they embarked could be further circumstantial evidence of where they originated. Hope that helps. Claire K. CTI List Admin. On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:03 AM, Jill Wilson wrote: > Subject: Irish Surname Research: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, > Ireland. > Hello All, > > My name is Jill Wilson, a first time poster... wondering if anyone > recognizes Furlong or Jones surnames? Researching my Irish > ancestors and > making a trip to Ireland in Feb - Mar 2009. Need help locating > names of > John Furlong's parents, and the Jone's parents, their homesteads, or > headstones, anything... Ideas or research recommendations would be > very > much appreciated. > > John Furlong - born abt 1814 in Ireland. Died in 1854 Johnson > County, Iowa > City, Iowa, USA. He Married Jane Jones Aug 1, 1839 in Sagamon, > Illinois, > USA. And settled in Iowa, USA in early 1840's. > > Jane Jones (Furlong) - wife of John Furlong. Born abt 1820 > (possibly 1810) > Tyrone County, Ireland. Died July 7, 1885 York Township, Iowa > County, Iowa, > USA. She was likely a "Native of the Parish of Cappagh" like her > brother (I > assume this must means she was a member of the Parish?) > > Charles Jones, brother to Jane, born abt 1797 a Native of Parish of > Cappagh, > Tyrone County, Ireland. Died Nov 12, 1867 in Iowa County, Iowa, USA. > > Thank you to anyone kind enough to respond, > Jill Wilson >

    11/30/2008 07:48:25
    1. [CoTyIre] Samuel Hogg/Sarah Jane Farrell (1873-1944) Cookstown Tyrone County
    2. Joy Hogg
    3. Hello fellow genealogists. My husband has very little information on the Hogg family. His father George Ernest came to Cleveland Ohio USA from Cookstown in the early 1920's. Son of Samuel Hogg and Sarah Jane Farrell(1973-1944). They had a slew of children including a Nancie Cousley Hogg, George, Fred, Harold, William and Sam, who all immigrated as well although Nancie went back. Any connections or information?I would have some of the American side to share. Joy Hogg

    11/30/2008 06:09:31
    1. [CoTyIre] Surnames: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland.
    2. Jill Wilson
    3. Subject: Irish Surname Research: Furlong and Jones in County Tyrone, Ireland. Hello All, My name is Jill Wilson, a first time poster... wondering if anyone recognizes Furlong or Jones surnames? Researching my Irish ancestors and making a trip to Ireland in Feb - Mar 2009. Need help locating names of John Furlong's parents, and the Jone's parents, their homesteads, or headstones, anything... Ideas or research recommendations would be very much appreciated. John Furlong - born abt 1814 in Ireland. Died in 1854 Johnson County, Iowa City, Iowa, USA. He Married Jane Jones Aug 1, 1839 in Sagamon, Illinois, USA. And settled in Iowa, USA in early 1840's. Jane Jones (Furlong) - wife of John Furlong. Born abt 1820 (possibly 1810) Tyrone County, Ireland. Died July 7, 1885 York Township, Iowa County, Iowa, USA. She was likely a "Native of the Parish of Cappagh" like her brother (I assume this must means she was a member of the Parish?) Charles Jones, brother to Jane, born abt 1797 a Native of Parish of Cappagh, Tyrone County, Ireland. Died Nov 12, 1867 in Iowa County, Iowa, USA. Thank you to anyone kind enough to respond, Jill Wilson

    11/29/2008 05:03:23
    1. [CoTyIre] Address Required
    2. chris
    3. Does one of the list members have the address where one may write for marriages from a Presbyterian faith pre 1835 in the area of Parish of Clogherny, County Tyrone. I have checked both dioces from the Anglican faith and not found my Archibald Irwin. Thanking you in advance. Chris Irwin CANADA

    11/28/2008 04:04:12
    1. Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 230
    2. frances heidel
    3. > So sorry to post to all....would like to contact Clare L because we have McCullaghs in common. Can't see Clare's e-mail address. Thank you. Fran Devine Heidel in PA, USA > From, Clare L. > - - - - -Some of my Co Tyrone names: Devlin, McAleer, Donnelly, > McCullagh, McCusker, McCrory

    11/28/2008 06:08:56