Hi Steve, Magheracross is indeed in Co. Fermanagh, at the border of Co. Tyrone, right about where the small Magheracross in Tyrone fits in. I would guess -- but have no actual knowledge, so maybe someone could confirm / correct this assumption -- that Magheracross in Tyrone is a detached portion of the Magheracross in Fermanagh -- that they are the same parish, in other words. If it helps, here's the parish maps of Fermanagh http://www.ancestryireland.com/database.php?filename=map_fermanagh and of Tyrone http://www.ancestryireland.com/database.php?filename=map_tyrone If you put the two together, you'll see where the bump out from Tyrone fits in the indent in Fermanagh. Detached portions of parishes are common -- on the Tyrone map, see #14 (Clogherny), #3 (Arboe), #7 (Ballyclog), and #29 (Killeeshil) for other examples. Parishes crossing county lines are also common (e.g., Lissan in Tyrone/Derry). You just seem to be unlucky enough to have both issues with the one parish. Hope that helps. Claire K. On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:35 PM, stephen.graham@comcast.net wrote: > I have been under the impression that Magheracross was a civil > parish lying totally in and surrounded by the civil parish > Kilskeery again totally in County Tyrone. Is it correct that there > is also a second Magheracross Civil Parish located totally within > County Fermanagh at the boundary with County Tyrone? > > Hoping that someone can address my confusion and clarify this for me. > > Many thanks > > Steve >

I have been under the impression that Magheracross was a civil parish lying totally in and surrounded by the civil parish Kilskeery again totally in County Tyrone. Is it correct that there is also a second Magheracross Civil Parish located totally within County Fermanagh at the boundary with County Tyrone? Hoping that someone can address my confusion and clarify this for me. Many thanks Steve -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Claire K <cagthe@gmail.com> > HI all, > > Just saw this mentioned on another list -- Ireland maps online. > Actually, a modern map that lets you choose a townland, parish, RC > parish, barony, council, or poor law union, and it overlays an > outline or puts a pointer on the modern map. Play with the options > in the small drop downs above the map. Choose several in a row, and > it shows you where they are in relation to one another. Not all > areas are input yet, but play with it, it may be useful. Npte: the > site is supported by Google Ads, so clickthroughs will help fund > future development of the site (and the Google Ads links are at the > top, where they look more like navigation links -- but to use the > maps on the site, look at the boxes below the links -- those are how > you redraw the map). > http://ireland.kiwicelts.com:80/irishMap/ireMap.html > > Hope that helps. > > Claire K > seekay@comcast.net > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Frank, I am in the process or transcribing the Camus Parish Records for Births and have come across a John James who had a son John by Ann or Mary Early: John; b 28 Jan 1831 I hope this is of some use to you. Regards Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Lyn" <franklyn@tiscali.co.za> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:08 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] EARLY family > Thanks Maureen, Hoot, Ray and Nelda for making contact. When my > frustration > with Irish research reaches melt-down point, I dump it and take a > sabbatical > hunting for my wife's rellies. All English, Dutch and a few Scots. Such a > pleasure! But, I'm always drawn back to the Irish lists and the land of > legends and leprechauns, buoyed by the hope that, in the interim, someone > has heard of my bunch. > > According to Griffith's, EARLYs were spread from Kerry to Donegal, from > Dublin to Mayo, and many points between. I have no way of connecting with > any of these families. Even if I never get further back than 1826, I enjoy > reading the > postings. My knowledge of Ireland and its history has benefited > enormously. > > Best wishes > > Frank Early > South Africa > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have tried to nail down the information on Patrick McCosker of Agharonan (1860) but I am having difficulty in locating the farm at that time. I know that it was Samuel Vesey property (of Derrybard House in Seskinore) but not where the property was on the Griffith's Valuation. I understand that the numbers in the valuation were only the sequential listing of the occupiers and not the address of that occupier. So, it does not compute that once you have the number of the property you can follow it looking at the land records. You actually have to have the locus of the property as shown on the map at the time. The problem is that http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php does not have the original material on Patrick McCosker's property, only a reference that is transcribed. Without that what does it mean when you have Sheet 51 (which I do know, having the whole sheet) and then the "position" and/or "map reference?" I have three numbers: 34 (which I believe may be the property in question), 39 (which does not appear on the Griffith's map that appears on Ask about Ireland) and 7. Until recently, I thought that the numbers related to the addresses and not the order that the census taker (or whatever he was at the time) listed the occupiers. That really caused me a lot of problems tracking down my McCarroll's of Corkhill but learning of the meaning of the order of numbers clarified the situation. But it did nothing to bring back the old homestead which I was present for its tearing down. Regards, Jim Carroll

Janet, You're probably looking for a townland [small township-like area] named Ballynasollus in the far west of the civil parish [sub-county district] Derryloran, possibly overlapping into Parish Kildress to the west. See http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/197474 and http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/128403 . Try searching for Ballynasollus Road, Dunnamore, United Kingdom, at multimap.com [between towns Kildress and Cookstown] for location on a modern map. You can also acquire Ordinance Survey maps from the 1800s so as to figure out precisely where the townland is. David On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Janet Kinsella wrote: > > Hello, > Long time lurker, first time poster. My gggrandmother's cemetery > record shows her as born 15AUG 1828, "Ballinsloe", CountyTyrone, > Ireland. Her name was Elizabeth (Eliza) Gregory. (She may have been > born in 1828) She came to Galena, Illinois, USA in 1843, to join a > brother and sister already here - Ellen and James. Later census > records show an Ann and a Hannah Gregory in Ellen's household, but > do not give a relationship. > Eliza was Roman Catholic, and was most likely illiterate. The place > names would probably have been supplied by her daughter(s), and > would likely have been a phonetic spelling representation of what > they may have heard. > My first question to the List is - Is anyone aware of a place that > would sound like Ballinsole but perhaps have a different spelling? > Thank You for your help, > Janet > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008 > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

In the 1900 census, my gr grandfather stated that he had been "Naturalized" a U.S. citizen. James Morrison b. 1839 in County Tyrone, Ireland, lived in Clarion County, PA for many years. If he filed for citizenship in Clarion, Where would I go to find these records? John C. Hall, Petaluma, California

Hi James, The surname alone is not much help, I'm afraid. Can you tell us about when they left Ireland, so we can figure out which records might help pinpoint possible locations? Here's the surname info, just FYI: From Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Dublin, Ire. and Portland, OR, USA: Irish Academic Press, 1999): "Cooper. This English occupational name has been prominent among the Anglo-Irish gentry since mid-seventeenth century in four counties, particularly Co. Sligo. Bibl." Bibl = See BIBLIOGRAPHY OF IRISH FAMILY HISTORY Sorry it's not more helpful. Claire K seekay@comcast.net On Dec 1, 2008, at 3:25 PM, James P. Murphy wrote: > I am trying to identify the origins in Co. Tyrone of: > > James Cooper, b. 1818 in Tyrone; died 1903 in Jefferson Co., Pa. USA > James Cooper, b. 1786 in Tyrone; died 1862 in Butler Co., Pa. USA > > Thank you in advance for any leads or suggestions. > > James P. Murphy > Princeton, NJ 08542 USA > jpmurphy@jpmurphy.com >

Hi Sharon, The LDS' FamilySearchIndexing project reports it has completed the Irish BMD indexes up to 1958, but none are yet online. Maybe you're thinking of the free index search (but pay to view) on the IFHF site? See http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ to see if this is what you're remembering. The free index search only tells you name, year, county, and source (type of record). Hope the helps. Claire K. On Dec 2, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Sharon Smith wrote: > > Hi List members, > > Does anyone know of a site that would have have Irish death > records online, that gives the name and date of death? I was sure > there was a site I went to before, that gave this information where > you could search by last name and only information it gave was > persons name, I think Parish and year died. It wasnt Proni I lost > the link and just cant remember where I found it, and thought maybe > someone on the list had the link. I'm looking for Fullerton and > Mayes in County Tyrone aswell as the Bowles name. > > Thank you > Sharon > _________________________________________________________________ > You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/ > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > ~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Claire K seekay@comcast.net

Saw this mentioned on another list and thought some of you might be interested -- it's a Surname Map & Pocket History from The Ulster- Scots Agency (in NI). The map shows historical places, pictures, and short histories, and is free as long as supplies (15,000) last. Email to info@ulsterscotsagency.org.uk for the map; see http:// www.ulsterscotsagency.com/ for more info on the Agency. Claire K seekay@comcast.net

Sharon: You may want to also consider searching court records if charges were brought. Do you know what part of Tyrone? There are a few different papers for the county. Clare L. -----Original Message----- From: Sharon wrote: <<< I was wondering if anyone in Tyrone has access to old newspapers. My Uncle mentioned that his Uncle had died before he was born, sometime between 1900 and 1910, in a fight over a girl. Thomas would have been about 20 at the time, and was beat up by 3 persons. This is going by a story his father told to him, so that is all I know. >>>

Janet, I'm way behind reading my County Tyrone emails, and I've only just seen your message below. My GRAHAMs, also Protestant, were from the Parish of Leckpatrick in County Tyrone. My great-grandfather, William GRAHAM and his wife, Sarah CARNWORTH, migrated to Australia in 1855. What time period are you referring to? To what country did your GRAHAM/McKERNAGHAN family go? Lindsay Graham Canberra, Australia --------------------------------------------- Please reply only to the list/newsgroup so that all may benefit. -------------------------------------------------- From: "janet graham" <mochapaws@msn.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:48 PM To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CoTyIre] (no subject) > > Am looking for help in locating the Mitchell Graham / Anne Mckernaghan > family from the Omagh area. They were Protestant. They had children > Robert, James, Margaret, Elizabeth, Matilda and possibly Ben. > Thanks for any possible help > janet graham >

Hi List members, I was wondering if anyone in Tyrone has access to old newspapers. My Uncle mentioned that his Uncle had died before he was born, sometime between 1900 and 1910, in a fight over a girl. Thomas would have been about 20 at the time, and was beat up by 3 persons. This is going by a story his father told to him, so that is all I know. I would love to find an article for my records as history is history and I might finally find a death date for him and where he is buried. Any help is appreciated if possible. Thank you Sharon _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008

HI all, Just saw this mentioned on another list -- Ireland maps online. Actually, a modern map that lets you choose a townland, parish, RC parish, barony, council, or poor law union, and it overlays an outline or puts a pointer on the modern map. Play with the options in the small drop downs above the map. Choose several in a row, and it shows you where they are in relation to one another. Not all areas are input yet, but play with it, it may be useful. Npte: the site is supported by Google Ads, so clickthroughs will help fund future development of the site (and the Google Ads links are at the top, where they look more like navigation links -- but to use the maps on the site, look at the boxes below the links -- those are how you redraw the map). http://ireland.kiwicelts.com:80/irishMap/ireMap.html Hope that helps. Claire K seekay@comcast.net

Hi Janette - nearest I can see on Suanruad is Cronalaghy in Co Donegal. There is a John MOSS in Cronalaghy in the Griffiths so could be worth looking further into. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand Subject: [CoTyIre] family history >I am very new to this so not sure how to go about things > II have my great grandmother death certificate and it states that she was > born in Cronlygrah,County Tyrone Donagall Ireland in app 1956 I am unable > to find Cronlygrah in either Tyrone or Donagall her father was John Moss > farmer and mothers Maiden name was Mary Mc laughlan > Regards > Janette Lennox

I am very new to this so not sure how to go about things II have my great grandmother death certificate and it states that she was born in Cronlygrah,County Tyrone Donagall Ireland in app 1956 I am unable to find Cronlygrah in either Tyrone or Donagall her father was John Moss farmer and mothers Maiden name was Mary Mc laughlan Regards Janette Lennox

Hello Janette, This is probably a mis-spelling of Cronalaghy which is in the Parish of Donaghmore . Donaghmore touches on the County Tyrone/ County Donegal border. The neighbouring Parish in County Tyrone is Termonamongan.Nearest market town is I suppose Castlederg although Lifford is not that far away. In 1859 there was Moss John Cronalaghy Donaghmore Donegal Moss Phelix Cronalaghy Donaghmore Donegal best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > > I am very new to this so not sure how to go about things > II have my great grandmother death certificate and it states that she was born in Cronlygrah,County Tyrone Donagall Ireland in app 1956 I am unable to find Cronlygrah in either Tyrone or Donagall her father was John Moss farmer and mothers Maiden name was Mary Mc laughlan> Regards> Janette Lennox> > -------------> Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get Windows Live Messenger on your Mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000001ukm/direct/01/

Hello, I am looking for any information anyone might have about GGgrandfather James Gilmore born abt. 1803 near Omagh, Tyrone county, Ireland. He married Martha (Matilda) Smith, born 1807 near Omagh. They had nine children: James- 1826, Ann-1830, John-1831, Eliza-1834, William-1836, Catherine-1838, Isabelle-1840, Frances-1845, and Thomas- abt 1847. I found the birth and baptism records for the last three children, born in Knockaravin, Dromore parish, Tyrone county in PRONI records. Would love to find marriage record and any sibilings for James or Martha as well as their parents names. Does anyone have any connections? Thanks

I wouldn't be concerned. In 1841, Ireland was not an independent country. Often the proper use of "Great Britain" versus the "United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland" is lacking. I have seen references like this for U.S. naturalizations of people who were born in Ireland. -Clare L.

Hi List members, Does anyone know of a site that would have have Irish death records online, that gives the name and date of death? I was sure there was a site I went to before, that gave this information where you could search by last name and only information it gave was persons name, I think Parish and year died. It wasnt Proni I lost the link and just cant remember where I found it, and thought maybe someone on the list had the link. I'm looking for Fullerton and Mayes in County Tyrone aswell as the Bowles name. Thank you Sharon _________________________________________________________________ You live life online. So we put Windows on the web. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032869/direct/01/