The RTE has a couple of genealogy-related videos online here-- http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0119/nationwide_av.html?2477134,null,228 1) victim of 50-year airline crash in Alaska linked to man in Limerick 2) Barack Obama's links to Offaly (two stories) 3) overview of National Archives of Ireland 4) discovery of the 1821 census for Forkhill parish, Co. Antrim None are Tyrone, unfortunately, but it's good to see genealogy getting media coverage... Clips range from 1:37 to 7:47, so take a look when you have a few minutes. Claire K

Saw this on another list and thought some of you might find it interesting... http://www.wpalogans.com/ulsterplaces.htm It's not a long list, so many placenames are not represented, and I make no claims for accuracy of those that are, so I leave it for you to evaluate for yourself. Claire K CTI List Admin

This discussion was on the Clare List and i though people on the Tyrone List may be interested -----Original Message----- From: Atchison [mailto:atchis1@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:03 PM To: 'Cara_Links'; 'irl-clare@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [IRL-CLARE] Irish Acre Definition Acres I have checked the Griffiths and it appears that the Griffiths used the English or Imperial measurement and not the Irish Plantation measurement. Source is http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF So one "Griffiths" acre = 4,840 square yards This equates to 43,560 sq ft I am assuming, though I can't be sure that an American acre measurement is the same as the Imperial measurement. Can someone please confirm this. The reason I ask, is because an American gallon is smaller than the correct imperial gallon Similarly there are only 2000 lbs in a American Ton, where as there are 2240 lbs in an Imperial ton which is/was used as the measurement for the UK and the British Commonwealth. For some reason America chose to a different way thereby creating confusion for everyone. I know when we are exporting to the US we have to be certain what measurement we are using. The rest of the world is easy because we use the metrics. So lets revisit English Acres Irish Metric 1 Acre is 4840 yds2 7,840 yds2 1 Acre is 43,560 ft2 70,560 ft2 1 acre .40469 ha .65553 ha 1 hectare 1 hectare is 2.4710 acres 1.5255 acre 1 hectare is 100 metres x 100 metres 10,000m2 The Imperial calculations are based from the link. A surveyors chain was a 100 links, thereby the term chain. The base for all this is the link which is 7.92 imperial inches There are 100 links in a chain which is 22 yards (the length of a cricket pitch) or 66 feet There are 10 chains in a furlong which is 220 yards (a furlong was the measurement used in horse racing) There are 8 furlongs in a mile which is 1,760 yards or 5,280 feet 1 square chain is 484 yds2 or 4,356 ft2 1 acre is 10 square chains 4,840 yds2 or 43,560 ft2 There are 4 roods to acre 1 rood is 1,210 yds2 There are 40 perches to a rood 1 perch is 30.25yds2 There are 640 acres per square mile 640 I have found this very interesting as we have had metrics since 1967 onwards. But I still remember the basics of imperial measurements even Pound, shillings and pence and of course guineas. Regards Cunningham Atchison Auckland, NZ -----Original Message----- From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:37 PM To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Irish Acre Definition >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia An Irish acre is a unit of area historically used in Irealnd One Irish acre is equal to, 7,840 square yards, or 70,560 square feet. The difference between the Irish acre and the statute acre arises from the fact that the Irish mile is 14-11 miles (1.273 mi or ~ 2km). Whereas a one-acre area ten times as long as wide would have dimensions of 66 feet × 660 feet, the Irish acre of that shape would have dimensions of 84 feet × 840 feet. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RobinVanM@aol.com> To: <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:55 AM Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Irish Acre Definition > What was the size (in square feet) of an acre in Griffith's Property > Valuation? > Robin in Maryland

If anyone is interested in pursuing the American acre in contrast to English/Irish/Griffiths measurements. I found the original posts most interesting and informative. Denis The acre is a unit of area in a number of different systems, including the imperial and U.S. customary systems. The most commonly used acres today are the international acre and, in the United States, the survey acre. One international acre is equal 4046.8564224 m2. One U.S. survey acre is equal to 62,726,400,000⁄15,499,969 m2 = 4046.8726098 m2. One acre comprises 4,840 square yards or 43,560 square feet[1] (which can be easily remembered as 44,000 square feet, less 1%). Because of alternative definitions of a yard or a foot, the exact size of an acre also varies slightly. Originally, an acre was a selion of land one furlong (660 ft) long and one chain (66 ft) wide; the measure appears to have begun as an approximation of the amount of land an ox could plow in one day. However, an acre is a measure of area, and has no particular width, length or shape. The acre is often used to express areas of land. In the metric system, the hectare is commonly used for the same purpose. An acre is approximately 40% of a hectare. One acre is 90.75 yards of a 53.33-yard-wide American football field. The full field, including the end zones, covers approximately 1.32 acres. On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:05 AM, Atchison wrote: > This discussion was on the Clare List and i though people on the > Tyrone List > may be interested > > -----Original Message----- > From: Atchison [mailto:atchis1@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:03 PM > To: 'Cara_Links'; 'irl-clare@rootsweb.com' > Subject: RE: [IRL-CLARE] Irish Acre Definition > > Acres > > I have checked the Griffiths and it appears that the Griffiths used > the > English or Imperial measurement and not the Irish Plantation > measurement. > > Source is http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF > > So one "Griffiths" acre = 4,840 square yards > This equates to 43,560 sq ft > > I am assuming, though I can't be sure that an American acre > measurement is > the same as the Imperial measurement. Can someone please confirm > this. The > reason I ask, is because an American gallon is smaller than the > correct > imperial gallon > > Similarly there are only 2000 lbs in a American Ton, where as there > are 2240 > lbs in an Imperial ton which is/was used as the measurement for the > UK and > the British Commonwealth. For some reason America chose to a > different way > thereby creating confusion for everyone. I know when we are > exporting to the > US we have to be certain what measurement we are using. The rest of > the > world is easy because we use the metrics. > > > So lets revisit > English Acres > Irish Metric > 1 Acre is 4840 yds2 > 7,840 yds2 > 1 Acre is 43,560 ft2 > 70,560 ft2 > 1 acre .40469 ha > .65553 ha 1 hectare > 1 hectare is 2.4710 acres 1.5255 acre > > 1 hectare is 100 metres x 100 metres > 10,000m2 > > > The Imperial calculations are based from the link. A surveyors > chain was a > 100 links, thereby the term chain. > The base for all this is the link which is 7.92 imperial inches > There are 100 links in a chain which is 22 yards (the > length of a cricket pitch) or 66 feet > There are 10 chains in a furlong which is 220 yards > (a furlong was the measurement used in horse racing) > There are 8 furlongs in a mile which is 1,760 yards or > 5,280 feet > > 1 square chain is 484 yds2 > or 4,356 ft2 > 1 acre is 10 square chains 4,840 yds2 or > 43,560 ft2 > There are 4 roods to acre > 1 rood is 1,210 yds2 > > There are 40 perches to a rood > 1 perch is 30.25yds2 > > There are 640 acres per square mile 640 > > > > I have found this very interesting as we have had metrics since 1967 > onwards. But I still remember the basics of imperial measurements even > Pound, shillings and pence and of course guineas. > > Regards > > Cunningham Atchison > Auckland, NZ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-clare-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-clare- > bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Cara_Links > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:37 PM > To: irl-clare@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Irish Acre Definition > >> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia > An Irish acre is a unit of area historically used in Irealnd > One Irish acre is equal to, 7,840 square yards, or 70,560 square feet. > > The difference between the Irish acre and the statute acre arises > from the > fact that the Irish mile is 14-11 miles (1.273 mi or ~ 2km). Whereas a > one-acre area ten times as long as wide would have dimensions of 66 > feet × > 660 feet, the Irish acre of that shape would have dimensions of 84 > feet × > 840 feet. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RobinVanM@aol.com> > To: <IRL-CLARE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:55 AM > Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Irish Acre Definition > > >> What was the size (in square feet) of an acre in Griffith's Property >> Valuation? >> Robin in Maryland > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > ~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A name would be a start! Kevin P Nash wrote: > Hi Donna > > How much do you know already? May I suggest you start with the Griffiths > Valuation. > > Kevin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Luzzi" <treqtrital@att.net> > To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:05 PM > Subject: [CoTyIre] help > > > >> Dear folks, >> Can someone guide me into the best way to find where in Tyrone my >> family originated from?? Any doclument I have says only Ireland >> thanks >> donna luzzi >> >> >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090116-1, 16/01/2009 > Tested on: 17/01/2009 13:27:15 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > >

Hi Donna How much do you know already? May I suggest you start with the Griffiths Valuation. Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Luzzi" <treqtrital@att.net> To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 7:05 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] help > Dear folks, > Can someone guide me into the best way to find where in Tyrone my > family originated from?? Any doclument I have says only Ireland > thanks > donna luzzi > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bill, Thanks so much for your detailed explanation of a Quarterman, very interesting reading, I had googled it but all I could come up with was the surname of Quarterman. Thanks again Bill Eleanor > Hi Eleanor > > Below is an explanation in mining in Scotland. I've seen it used in > meat-packing and may have been common in many occupations. The concept was > even used by doctors > in WWI to quantify a "cripples" ability to work and hence help determine > what type of occupation they may be capable of doing. > > Bill Hazelton > Memphis > > > "Commercial Relations of the United States with Foreign Countries By > United > States Dept. of State, United States Bureau of Foreign Commerce(1854-1903" > Google Books > > "When a boy of twelve years enters a coal-pit, he is attached to his > father > or some other man, and becomes what is known technically as a > "quarter-man." > The miner with whom he works is entitled to put out one-fourth more coal > than if he wrought without assistance; and from the price he received for > this extra quantity he pays the boy, whose duty it is to fill the coal > into > the "tubs" and convey it to the pit bottom. At fourteen the boy becomes a > "half-man;" at sixteen, a "three-quarter-man;" and at eighteen' he assumes > the title of miner, performs a man's work, and draws a man's pay. "when" > the > boy ranks as a " quarter-man," he usually receives one shilling per day ; > when a" half-man," two shillings ; and when a " three-quarter-man," three > shillings. These rates are, however, subject to variation according to the > amount of wages received by the men. From this it will be seen that, when > the miner's family includes two or three sons able to go into the pits, > the > total earnings must amount to a handsome sum" > > > > -Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:08:50 +1100 > From: "Eleanor" <bryan@net2000.com.au> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Quarterman > > Further to the message from Carol Condy Bennett, can anyone tell me what a > Quarterman did. > Eleanor > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi all, As you've probably noticed, there have been problems with email delivery for some time now (at least since November). In Dec. and again just the other day, a bunch of mail has come through that was hung up on the RW servers. Rumor has it that the RW backlog has cleared (again), so if you sent a message recently that you never saw post to the list, please send it again. (If it makes you feel any better (in the vein of misery loving company), the amount of spam I've been dealing with behind the scenes in the list filters is through the roof). I'd also like to thank you all for not complaining about the intermittent mail problems, like so many other lists' members have been doing. Just so you know, it's not just RW having this problem -- other mailing lists like Yahoo have had problems, and direct emails (no list, just ISPs) have also have had problems. I've been told it's Internet-wide, and is due to a sudden upsurge in spam clogging computers around the world. (Working from memory -- a dangerous thing, since my memory's been pretty unreliable lately -- I think I saw a reference to a 400% increase in spam almost overnight. Even if that's not the right figure, it's a massive increase in a short time). So thanks for your patience, for not blaming RootsWeb, and for not bombarding the list with complaints. Remember, the blame is on the spammers, not RW; here's hoping someone gets them under control, or comes up with a technological way of protecting servers from this massive drain on their resources. Should the problems continue (resume), please be aware that the messages are apparently all (?) getting through to the list archives, even when they don't make it to the list, so if you see an answer to a question you never saw, you can always check the archives to see what you've missed. Search the list archives here -- http:// archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=CoTyroneIreland -- or browse it here -- http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ CoTyroneIreland/ . Let's hope that things are back to normal -- and will STAY that way. Meanwhile, post away! Regards, Claire K CTI List Admin seekay@comcast.net

Hi all, Google Books has the index to Michael C. O'Laughlin's _The Book of Irish Families, Great & Small_ online. See http://books.google.com/books?id=mZt3oGtk1KgC From the site: "This is the master volume to the 28 book set on Irish Family History from the Irish Genealogical Foundation. The largest and most comprehensive of the series, this volume includes family histories from every county in Ireland and Northern Ireland. It also has, for the first time, the complete surname index for the entire series. The 27 other books which are indexed in this volume will provide additional information on even more families." Hope that helps someone! Claire K

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/iredata/refdata/Batch%20Numbers/mrg_bats/tyrone.html

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/iredata/refdata/Batch%20Numbers/mrg_bats/ferm.htm

As Fermanagh borders on Tyrone perhaps may be of interest http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/iredata/refdata/Batch%20Numbers/birth_bats/Ferm.htm

A handy link for TYRONE batch numbers for using at LDS site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/iredata/refdata/Batch%20Numbers/birth_bats/Tyrone.htm

Bill: thank you for posting this fascinating snippet. I expect that something similar probably occurred in most English-speaking coal-mining areas. ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hazelton" <bhazelto@comcast.net> ... > Below is an explanation in mining in Scotland. I've seen it used in > meat-packing and may have been common in many occupations. The concept was > even used by doctors > in WWI to quantify a "cripples" ability to work and hence help determine > what type of occupation they may be capable of doing. > > Bill Hazelton > Memphis ...

Would anyone be able to help me with REBECCA ROBINSON, please. She was likely born circa 1835-45, possibly at Mullafad, Fivemiletown, or even Strabane. Rebecca married James Dunlop around 1870 and they lived from then on at Fivemiletown, Co Tyrone, having a number of children, one being my grandfather William H.Dunlop born in 1879. I would appreciate any help. Brenda Searles.

Does anyone know of someone in Clonfeacle Parish, County Tyrone who would be willing to take photographs of several McGrady tombstones located at the Eglish Roman Catholic Church graveyard near Roan? I would be happy to pay for this service. I am interested in the graves of Owen McGrady (died 1792, age 86), Francis McGrady (died 1778 age 50) and Bryan McGrady died 1744 (age 70). I am also interested in a photo of the grave of Patrick McGrady who was buried in Old Clonfeacle graveyard, Tullydowey, and who died in 1746 at age 66. I would like to correspond with any McGradys still living in County Tyrone and anyone studying the McGradys of County Tyrone. My earliest known McGrady ancestor, Patrick McGrady, came to America in 1838 and was born in County Tyrone about 1826. His death certificate states that his father's name was James McGrady and his mother was an unknown Larkin. I found McGradys in the Caledon estate papers (PRONI D2433) in the townlands of Cadian, parih of Clonfeacle, (Patrick and Judith McGrady held a lease here from 1794 to at least 1835) and Drumnamoles, parish of Clonfeacle (Henry, Thomas, and James McGrady held leases here from 1794 to about 1829). There is also a James McGrady in Reskmore, Donaghmore parish, County Tyrone enumerated during the tithe applotments who I would like to learn more about. In the 1901 Irish Census there is still a McGrady family living at Cadian: John McGready, age 60, born County Tyrone, Roman Catholic, farmer Catherine McGready age 50, wife Mary Anne McGready age 17 daughter Peter James McGready age 15, son Patrick McGready age 13 son Michael McGready age 10 son John McGrady was married to Catherine McVeigh June 6, 1882 at the Eglish Roman Catholic Church and his Civil marriage record states that his father was named James McGrady--could he be a brother to my Patrick McGrady? Jonathan K. T. Smith Jackson, TN

For those of you whose family may have gone from Tyrone to England, the 1911 UK Census has gone online (on a pay site, soon to be on FindMyPast) for most of England. For details, see the FFHS press release at http://www.ffhs.org.uk/archives/census1911.php Those of you waiting for the 1911 Tyrone census to be digitized still have to wait -- Tyrone's near the end of the list, which means it should be about mid-2009, according to the current NAI schedule. For details of the process, see http://www.nationalarchives.ie/census.html Meanwhile, if your Tyrone folks moved elsewhere in Ireland, Dublin, Antrim, Down and Kerry are now online and searchable at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ Here's hoping this helps someone... Claire K

Hi Marilyn, Not definitive, but sometimes helpful -- this is from Edward MacLysaght, THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND, 6th ed. (Portland, OR and Dublin, IRE: Irish Academic Press, 1999): "(O) Milligan, Milliken. O Maoileagain [accents on "O" and last "a"]. An attenuated form of O Maolagain [accents same] (Mulligan). This name is numerous in Antrim and south Derry where it originated. MIF." "Field(s), Fielding. Mainly English in origin, but see Fehilly and Maghery. As de la Felde it occurs in mediaeval Irish records." "(O) Fehilly. O Fithcheallaigh [accent on "O"] (chess player). A sept of the Corca Laoidhe, often abbreviated to Feeley and sometimes anglicized Field. In modern times the form Feeley is mainly found in north Connacht, where it is a Silmurray sept. MIF. Map Cork." "Maghery. An Mhachaire (of the field). This is one of the few cognomina taken from place of residence which finally became hereditary surnames. It is n record in Co. Limerick at least as early as 1309. It takes the form Field in Co. Armagh." MIF = for more info, see MORE IRISH FAMILIES Map Cork = surname map shows OFihilly (? hard to read) in SW Cork. This is the closest match I can find, but many of the Cork names on the map are hard to read. Hope that helps, or is at least interesting. Claire K. On Jan 15, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Marilyn Otterson wrote: > ...My great grandfather was Joseph H. MILLIGAN. He was born about > 1815 "in > Ireland" (not much help there) and died in Boston, MA 7/30/1901. His > parents were, according to his death record, Thomas MILLIGAN and > Margaret > FIELDS. She was b. in Ireland. > > Joseph MILLIGAN married Ann FIELD (don't know date or place) and he > came to > the USA in 1850, supposedly through Pennasylvania. ... > Jospeh and Ann's daughter, Rebecca Milligan, b. MA, USA, married > William > Charles Armstrong who was born in Co. Tyrone. This makes me wonder if > Joseph Milligan may have been from Co. Tyrone as well, but that's just > speculation.

Hello again. I am completely stymied and hope somebody might point me in the right direction to find information on my MILLIGAN and FIELD ancestors. My great grandfather was Joseph H. MILLIGAN. He was born about 1815 "in Ireland" (not much help there) and died in Boston, MA 7/30/1901. His parents were, according to his death record, Thomas MILLIGAN and Margaret FIELDS. She was b. in Ireland. Joseph MILLIGAN married Ann FIELD (don't know date or place) and he came to the USA in 1850, supposedly through Pennasylvania. I am not sure if there is any connection between FIELD and FIELDS surnames. Ann was b. about 1835 so there was quite a discrepancy in their ages, and she d. before he did, no date yet. Ann is said to have been born in England but I have no record. I don't now where or when Joseph and Ann were married...whether they came to the USA together, separately, or if they were married in Ireland or here. Jospeh and Ann's daughter, Rebecca Milligan, b. MA, USA, married William Charles Armstrong who was born in Co. Tyrone. This makes me wonder if Joseph Milligan may have been from Co. Tyrone as well, but that's just speculation. If anybody can help me locate the birthplace in Ireland of Joseph H. Milligan, son of Thomas Milligan and Ann Fields, I would be very happy! He is a dead end for me as far as parents and birthplace and further marriage information. Thanks so much for any suggestions. Regards, Marilyn in frozen New Hampshire, USA

Hello All I've just realized that I have done very little into the research of some of these surnames, and I thought that I should make an attempt to connect with others. I also haven't posted my lines for awhile so will do that as well. John GASTON born 3 Mar 1873 to William GASTON & Rebecca DONAGHY of Londonderry, married Annie Mary DUNN on 19 Mar 1907 at the Methodist Church, Newtown Limavady, Co. Ldy. Yes, I do know that both these entries are in Derry but it isn't really that fa roff topic as many of my DUNN's were from Co. Tyrone. Annie Mary DUNN is a descendant of John DUNN who 1st lived at Mossfield Farm Glennagorland glebe Leckpatrick Parish, and then they relocated to Ballyskeagh Leckpatrick Parish Co. Tyrone. Annie Mary's parents were Andrew DUNN originally from Ballyskeagh and Margaret ADAMS who was from the townland of Primity, Parish of Glendermott. Andrew Dunn inherited from his Aunt- Margaret ROBINSON (Nee DUNN "Foyleview Farm" in Ballykelly Londonderry. Margaret's husband was William. and this couple married 7 Aug 1832 at the Donagheady Church Of Ireland. It appears that William's father was John Robinson. John Robinson's burial was 27 Apr 1830 of near the Canal, Ballykelly. (Tamlaght Finlagan Church of Ireland Registers.) I have some very old photos of Foyleview farm, along with a whole bunch of folks I know not. (Too bad they didn't write their names on the pics sommehow. Martha Jane GASTON was born 9 May 1876 and died 24 Jun 1971 aged 95 years at 912 Evergreen Pl North Vancouver BC. She is buried at Capilano View Cemetery North Vancouver BC. Martha's obituary from The Vancouver BC Canada Sun McCrae- On June 24th 1971 Martha Jane McCrae of 912 Evergreen Place, North Vancouver, in her 96th year. Survived by 1 son Samuel of North Vancouver, 2 grandsons, Brian of North Vancouver, Dennis of Vancouver, 1 great-granddaughter, Meghan. The Rev W.C Daniel will conduct the funeral service on Tuesday June 29th at 1;30 p.m. in the Burrard Funeral Chapel, Lonsdale ave at 12 St. North Vancouver. Interment family plot Capilano View Cemetery. George Esmond McCREA - the only data I have is that he died in 31 May 1953 age 73, in Vancouver BC Canada. Now on to the John's & Joseph LOVE's that so confuse me. <BG> Joseph LOVE born abt.1785 of Cullion died 3 Apr 1867 aged 82, married (I believe a 2nd marriage) to Margaret GIBSON 29 Apr 1839 at the Donagheady Parish Church, Co. Tyrone. Margaret Died 11 Dec 1885 aged 89. Sarah Jane Gibson LOVE was born to this couple on 4 Oct 1835. They also had a son John born abt 1831 (this could be from the 1st wife) married Elizabeth ROBINSON on 30 Mar 1857 at the Donemana Presbyterian Church, Donagheady Parish. They were from Cavanacreagh & Gortmellon townland. They had a son named Joseph born 5 Apr 1855 at "Greystone" Cavancreagh townland Donagheady. This Joseph was my great-grand-father, and yet again, my grand-father's name was Joseph Marriot LOVE bap. 22 Apr 1895 2nd Donagheady Presbyterian Church. There are 2 Reverand Josph LOVE's one who died 1807 born about 1718 (?) and the Reverand Joseph LOVE of Killeter. Joseph Love born 1785 (mine) was the brother of James LOVE born abt 1785 died 20 July 1863 age 76 yrs and this James was the father of Rev. J LOVE of Killeter. Ayyaaayaaa. I mentioned confusion. :-) Cheers~ Teena