Hello Everybody, I am looking for the birth details of SARAH ANN WHYTE, I believe it could be around 1830 maybe at ARDSTRAW COUNTY TYRONE, SARAH'S father was WILLIAM WHYTE a soldier in the ROYAL ARTILLERY, Was the ROYAL ARTILLERY in that area at that time? Also could anyone inform me how far is ARDSTRAW from BELFAST. Thank you. Regards, Syd

WHOOOPS!!!! Sorry meant to send to Teena's e-mail. fran > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 47 (frances heidel) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:27:46 -0500 > From: frances heidel <fradel@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 47 > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <6DF4BA5C-E04A-47A9-98A4-D11C6BA6BDE6@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > Yes, I can help Teena. Fran > > >

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Hello Friends I am in the processs of a project for our community web-site and would be grateful for some help. It isn't difficult for a change and just involves web-searching. If you can help me out I would really appreciate it. TIA ~Teena Our Community Web-site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/index.html

County Tyrone Ireland, Genealogy and Family History Notes by Irish Genealogical Foundation (only part of this book is online and a good old map of Tyrone showing the baronies of Strabane, Dungannon, Clogher, Omagh geographical division that can prove helpful when researching your family in older records as page 10 indicates. Also can search for names in surname index http://books.google.com.au/books?id=kdPn7JappCkC

New to this list, my gg grandfather is from Mullawinny, family name Hamilton. My grandfather has a small correspondence file, gathered while researching in the 20's, including a cousin named Martin, whose mother was Frances Hamilton, married Andrew Martin, and the Old Homestead was passed on to Samuel Martin, their son. About half the family moved to New Providence, NJ, and lived in that part of NJ for more than 100 years. William Buchanan Hamilton, born about 1838 was the first to come to the US, and to my knowledge, there are no more Hamiltons from our line still in Mullawinny. His middle name, Buchanan, comes from the doctor who delivered him, we believe, from Fintona. Love to hear from others knowledgeable about this part of Ireland. Gary Allen Richardson _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008

Hello Friends After receiving Claire's permission , I'm passing on this info to the list in the hopes that it may help someone seeking the surname of O'BRIAN. I often look for information for books and such for Tyrone, on E-Bay. I myself, can't believe what a deal this is as it's only 15 pounds. I enquired into shipping costs was told it would be Airmail to Canada is £8 stirling. I sure wish I could be so fortunate to find something like this on my LOVE & DUNN ancestors. wish Good hunting to all Cheers Teena 4theloveoftyrone@gmail.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/index.html<mhtml:{0FDDBC9D-CCC6-4E46-B1DD-F1E2EC9E3147}mid://00000799/!x-usc:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/index.html> here is the description of the book and the link to the e-bay page. "This book essentialy researchs the principal lines of descent from Turlogh Don, fifty-fifth king of Thomond in Ireland. Various branches of the family include the Earls of Thormond, The Viscount Clare, The Ennistymon O'Briens, the Earls of Inchiquin, the Dromoland O'Briens. Also featured are the Aran Island branch, and the O'Briens of Ballynalckan, Grenau, Waterford, Tipperary and some French and Dutch branchs of the family. This really is a most comphrensive work on a family with world-wide connection and for any O'Brien really is a must. This out of print book normally retails at £60 plus secondhand. So grab a bargain !! Hope that is of some use. - white-cockade http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120373753269<mhtml:{0FDDBC9D-CCC6-4E46-B1DD-F1E2EC9E3147}mid://00000799/!x-usc:http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120373753269>

In a recent posting by mistake I put in that Jane McCusker could have been the sister of Catherine McCusker. It should have been the NIECE of Catherine. The McCusker's were quite a clan during Griffiths living in that southwest quadrant of Agharonan, but if Catherine was as old as she was during the census and a widow to boot it would have been a stretch for her to have a little sister named Jane. Regards, Jim Carroll

Regarding a Jane McCusker that we found while searching ancestral backgrounds in County Tyrone, unfortunately the only reference was one that is contained in an Ulster Historical Foundation In Depth Search Report that I had done a number of years back. The report stated: "The one connection we have found is a McGarrity/McCusker one. The Jane McGarrity, aged ten in the 1911 census, living with Andrew Bogan's family was actually the daughter of a McCusker (sometimes reported as McCosker), not a McCarroll. Her parents were Thomas McGarrity and Jane McCusker of Augharon (sic)." I believe that should be Agharonan. And if you will do a little research don't forget to use the McCosker name as that was what it was in Griffith's. At that time there were two citations for McCusker (McCosker) in the townland of Agharonan: households numbered 34 and 35 (a) through (c). [It should be noted that the household numbers in Griffith's were not the addresses but the serially numbered leaseholds that were visited. For example, the Patrick McCosker's lived at location numbered 34 on the Griffith's map. When one looks at later ordnance survey maps they may find that the number changes because the number was only the indication that when he visited it was the 34th call in the townland.] There were no McGarrity's located in Agharonan when Griffith's did his survey, but there were a number that lived in surrounding townlands or areas. This leads to further speculation. The Jane McCusker of Augharon may have been the sister of Catherine. But we do lack proof, other than speculation. During the 1924 funeral of Michael Joseph McCarroll, late of Fintona and a native of Eskra (Corkhill) parish, attendees John McCusker of Legamaghery and Patrick Joseph McGarrity of Augharonon were listed as cousins to the deceased. Another reminder, make sure when you do your search that you use the various spellings of both the name and the location as they change over time, as we found out with Patrick McCosker, father of Catherine McCarroll (nee McCusker). In the Griffiths Valuation there was a paucity of McCuskers. It became very clear that most of the McCusker's of later years "started" out as a McCosker, at least according to Griffith.

Hi Jan, Many thanks for your time and effort. I have copies of his tickets of leave, conditional pardons etc. and have been able to trace many of his movements plus childrens births etc. There has been quite a lot recorded about him in Australia as he absconded quite a few times. I hadn't thought, however, to look for his death in another state which I will now do. Many thanks once again for the tip. Regards, Margaret -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hayward & Osborn Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2009 2:27 PM To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to Australia Margaret, I noted on 'Ancestry.com.au' for New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia, Convict Pardons and Tickets of Leave 1834-1859, record of Frederick Lunny, arrived year 1821, Vesel Lc Sidmouth, Piece HO 10/52, it states "place of Conviction - Armagh" Armagh may be a clue as where to search. unfortunately I was unable to print it, just came up as error. Also, where and when were their children born and have you looked for marriage or births in other states. Jan Victoria Australia

Margaret, I noted on 'Ancestry.com.au' for New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia, Convict Pardons and Tickets of Leave 1834-1859, record of Frederick Lunny, arrived year 1821, Vesel Lc Sidmouth, Piece HO 10/52, it states "place of Conviction - Armagh" Armagh may be a clue as where to search. unfortunately I was unable to print it, just came up as error. Also, where and when were their children born and have you looked for marriage or births in other states. Jan Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Healey" <kmhealey@bigpond.net.au> To: "'Patricia Moosman'" <pat.moosman@clear.net.nz>; <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to Australia > Hi Patricia, > Many thanks for your effort in trying to locate my Frederick. I will go > further a field and try Fermargh. I was able to locate Johanna's baptism > in > Waterford and also her parents name through a professional researcher in > Waterford but Frederick is proving to be more difficult. Thanks again, > Regards, > Margaret > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patricia Moosman [mailto:pat.moosman@clear.net.nz] > Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2009 12:13 PM > To: 'Keith Healey'; COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to > Australia > > Hi Keith > > I have had a look on Emerald Ancestors in the hope of seeing the name to > give a clue to the area ( also looked under soundex to bring up > variations) > But know Fredrick's there were a couple of Francis's but there was the > surname of Lunney also in IRVINESTOWN listed as Fermangh/Tyrone so I would > look in both counties > > I also looked in the new Family research facility and although I didn't > find > your man there are 3 on there > 1/ Fredrick Lunney born 1822 Ireland in Ontario Canada > 2/ Fredric M Lunney born 1822 Ireland in Illinois USA > 3/ Thomas Fredrick Lunney born 1908 in Mayo/Galway so Southern Ireland > Hope this helps > > Johanna Noonan is a very popular name > I found this one in the Family Search facility > > Joanna Noonan 2 different deaths in Waterford Ireland to late to be her > mother but looking for her there might be little easier > > Patricia > New Zealand > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Healey > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:33 PM > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to Australia > > I am a fifth generation Australian descended from Frederick Lunny (various > spellings include Lunney, Looney,Loney, Luny) a native of County Tyrone. > He > was tried in 1820 in Armagh for stealing from a bleach green and given a > life sentence. Frederick was transported to Australia on the convict ship > "Lord Sidmouth 11" arriving in Sydney, Australia in 1821. > > > > I am trying to find his birthplace in County Tyrone. All the convict > documentation in Australia just states "native of Tyrone". The trial > documents no longer exist as they were amongst the records that were burnt > in the fire. He was Roman Catholic and his birth date would have been > around 1796. I have also noticed in my research that the name Frederick > does not appear to be very common amongst the RC in Tyrone. Would it have > been an anglicised version of a more common Irish name. > > > > Would appreciate any help in adding more pieces to my jigsaw puzzle. > > > > > > Regards, > > Margaret > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Keith I have had a look on Emerald Ancestors in the hope of seeing the name to give a clue to the area ( also looked under soundex to bring up variations) But know Fredrick's there were a couple of Francis's but there was the surname of Lunney also in IRVINESTOWN listed as Fermangh/Tyrone so I would look in both counties I also looked in the new Family research facility and although I didn't find your man there are 3 on there 1/ Fredrick Lunney born 1822 Ireland in Ontario Canada 2/ Fredric M Lunney born 1822 Ireland in Illinois USA 3/ Thomas Fredrick Lunney born 1908 in Mayo/Galway so Southern Ireland Hope this helps Johanna Noonan is a very popular name I found this one in the Family Search facility Joanna Noonan 2 different deaths in Waterford Ireland to late to be her mother but looking for her there might be little easier Patricia New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Healey Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:33 PM To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to Australia I am a fifth generation Australian descended from Frederick Lunny (various spellings include Lunney, Looney,Loney, Luny) a native of County Tyrone. He was tried in 1820 in Armagh for stealing from a bleach green and given a life sentence. Frederick was transported to Australia on the convict ship "Lord Sidmouth 11" arriving in Sydney, Australia in 1821. I am trying to find his birthplace in County Tyrone. All the convict documentation in Australia just states "native of Tyrone". The trial documents no longer exist as they were amongst the records that were burnt in the fire. He was Roman Catholic and his birth date would have been around 1796. I have also noticed in my research that the name Frederick does not appear to be very common amongst the RC in Tyrone. Would it have been an anglicised version of a more common Irish name. Would appreciate any help in adding more pieces to my jigsaw puzzle. Regards, Margaret ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patricia, Many thanks for your effort in trying to locate my Frederick. I will go further a field and try Fermargh. I was able to locate Johanna's baptism in Waterford and also her parents name through a professional researcher in Waterford but Frederick is proving to be more difficult. Thanks again, Regards, Margaret -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Moosman [mailto:pat.moosman@clear.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2009 12:13 PM To: 'Keith Healey'; COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to Australia Hi Keith I have had a look on Emerald Ancestors in the hope of seeing the name to give a clue to the area ( also looked under soundex to bring up variations) But know Fredrick's there were a couple of Francis's but there was the surname of Lunney also in IRVINESTOWN listed as Fermangh/Tyrone so I would look in both counties I also looked in the new Family research facility and although I didn't find your man there are 3 on there 1/ Fredrick Lunney born 1822 Ireland in Ontario Canada 2/ Fredric M Lunney born 1822 Ireland in Illinois USA 3/ Thomas Fredrick Lunney born 1908 in Mayo/Galway so Southern Ireland Hope this helps Johanna Noonan is a very popular name I found this one in the Family Search facility Joanna Noonan 2 different deaths in Waterford Ireland to late to be her mother but looking for her there might be little easier Patricia New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Healey Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:33 PM To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to Australia I am a fifth generation Australian descended from Frederick Lunny (various spellings include Lunney, Looney,Loney, Luny) a native of County Tyrone. He was tried in 1820 in Armagh for stealing from a bleach green and given a life sentence. Frederick was transported to Australia on the convict ship "Lord Sidmouth 11" arriving in Sydney, Australia in 1821. I am trying to find his birthplace in County Tyrone. All the convict documentation in Australia just states "native of Tyrone". The trial documents no longer exist as they were amongst the records that were burnt in the fire. He was Roman Catholic and his birth date would have been around 1796. I have also noticed in my research that the name Frederick does not appear to be very common amongst the RC in Tyrone. Would it have been an anglicised version of a more common Irish name. Would appreciate any help in adding more pieces to my jigsaw puzzle. Regards, Margaret ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan, Many thanks for your reply. I have been unable to find his death record or marriage record. His partner was Johanna Noonan a female convict from Waterford and I know that they had the permission to marry and presume that they did marry. At the time convicts were only allowed to marry in an Anglican church and as they were both RC they probable got married secretly. I know they stayed together for a long time and had at least 6 children. Regards Margaret Blue Moutains, NSW, Australia -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hayward & Osborn Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2009 10:47 AM To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to Australia Margaret, You didn't mention if you have his marriage or death certificates, either could possibly give where he was born. Jan Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Healey" <kmhealey@bigpond.net.au> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:33 AM Subject: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to Australia >I am a fifth generation Australian descended from Frederick Lunny (various > spellings include Lunney, Looney,Loney, Luny) a native of County Tyrone. > He > was tried in 1820 in Armagh for stealing from a bleach green and given a > life sentence. Frederick was transported to Australia on the convict ship > "Lord Sidmouth 11" arriving in Sydney, Australia in 1821. > > > > I am trying to find his birthplace in County Tyrone. All the convict > documentation in Australia just states "native of Tyrone". The trial > documents no longer exist as they were amongst the records that were burnt > in the fire. He was Roman Catholic and his birth date would have been > around 1796. I have also noticed in my research that the name Frederick > does not appear to be very common amongst the RC in Tyrone. Would it have > been an anglicised version of a more common Irish name. > > > > Would appreciate any help in adding more pieces to my jigsaw puzzle. > > > > > > Regards, > > Margaret > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret, You didn't mention if you have his marriage or death certificates, either could possibly give where he was born. Jan Victoria Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Healey" <kmhealey@bigpond.net.au> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:33 AM Subject: [CoTyIre] Convict from County Tyrone Transdported to Australia >I am a fifth generation Australian descended from Frederick Lunny (various > spellings include Lunney, Looney,Loney, Luny) a native of County Tyrone. > He > was tried in 1820 in Armagh for stealing from a bleach green and given a > life sentence. Frederick was transported to Australia on the convict ship > "Lord Sidmouth 11" arriving in Sydney, Australia in 1821. > > > > I am trying to find his birthplace in County Tyrone. All the convict > documentation in Australia just states "native of Tyrone". The trial > documents no longer exist as they were amongst the records that were burnt > in the fire. He was Roman Catholic and his birth date would have been > around 1796. I have also noticed in my research that the name Frederick > does not appear to be very common amongst the RC in Tyrone. Would it have > been an anglicised version of a more common Irish name. > > > > Would appreciate any help in adding more pieces to my jigsaw puzzle. > > > > > > Regards, > > Margaret > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am a fifth generation Australian descended from Frederick Lunny (various spellings include Lunney, Looney,Loney, Luny) a native of County Tyrone. He was tried in 1820 in Armagh for stealing from a bleach green and given a life sentence. Frederick was transported to Australia on the convict ship "Lord Sidmouth 11" arriving in Sydney, Australia in 1821. I am trying to find his birthplace in County Tyrone. All the convict documentation in Australia just states "native of Tyrone". The trial documents no longer exist as they were amongst the records that were burnt in the fire. He was Roman Catholic and his birth date would have been around 1796. I have also noticed in my research that the name Frederick does not appear to be very common amongst the RC in Tyrone. Would it have been an anglicised version of a more common Irish name. Would appreciate any help in adding more pieces to my jigsaw puzzle. Regards, Margaret

Hi, Try to go back to the page not wanting to print. Copy paste it into note pad and print from there. I use this about 90% of the time with ancestry.com's records. nelda

I found this Patrick, maybe it is something to look at. Date of Death 3 Jan 1896 Year of Probate 1896 Name Patrick Skiffington County Tyrone Residence Eskragh> From: campsiehills@sbcglobal.net> To: CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com; forsyththeresa@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:38:10 -0800> Subject: [CoTyIre] Patrick Skiffington aka The Scarlet Pimpernel!> > Re the following message from you, Theresa:> -------------------> Hi again Maisie> > I was thinking!! since you've spent such a long time looking for Patrick Skeffington to no avail, it maybe would be worth your while checking out if parish records actually exist for the years you are searching. Many parishes didn't have records going back to early 1800s. If you go to the Proni website www.proni.gov.uk and click on the link for online guides and indexes, it will bring up in its list documents that show the Church of Ireland, Presbyterian and Roman Catholic parish records it has microfilmed for the whole of Ulster. It may well be that no records exist and you just have to accept that.> > However, there are still Skeffingtons in Co Tyrone, all mainly around the Dungannon area. Here's the list from the telephone directory: > > E SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 406960 Reaskmore Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1QF J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 4612 8 Glebe Pk, Dungannon, BT70 3PS> J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 9028 1282 127 Great Northern St, Belfast, BT9 7FL> M SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 7085 27 Lisgallon Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1SW> Martin J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 8691 20 Knockmoy Pk, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4LU > N SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 0566 136 Annagher Rd, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4NE> O SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 61286 Dernmore Dv, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4SL> P SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 78774 Willow Clo, Dungannon, BT70 1XF> R SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 929888A Reaskmore Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1QF> S SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 5209229 Carnteel Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1PG> S SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 978212 Clonmeen Cotts, Dungannon, BT71 5QN> Sean SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8776 7680 10 Speers Pl, Dungannon, BT70 1TQ> > It may well be that writing to them might lead to someone connected to your ancestors. If you do decide to write, it's a good idea to enclose your email address. Many people might not bother writing a letter back, but there will be some who will be quite happy to send an email. Should you decide to write then may I offer you the best of luck in finding a connection.> > Theresa> ------------------> > Thanks again, Theresa, for your further suggestions.> > I enrolled the help of a fellow from Irish World to check the church records for Donaghmore, and then when there weren't any for there, he checked Dungannon, but came up empty-handed. More money down the drain!> > As I noted before, I even wrote to the Diocese in Armagh...not answer was the loud reply, as my mother used to crack!> > We even paid a visit to Donaghmore one time, checked out the Skiffington name with the shop people in the little shops, and talked to an ex-policeman who knew someone by the name of Skiffongton ...in 1941... said deadpan! We thought he was being unwittingly humorous. The ex-policeman came from the area and according to him there were no Skiffingtons left there. Someone else remarked that there were two bachelor brothers by this name, but they, too, were long since gone. Obviously there had to have been some Skiffingtons in Donaghmore at one point, but whether related to Patrick remains a puzzle.> > We went into the old Catholic cemetery across the street from the canon's office (he had no records prior to 1877) to check to see if there were any old headstones bearing the Skiffington name, but didn't have time to go through the whole place. I have a feeling that Patrick and his wife Bridget (Kelly) may not have come from enough money for their forebears to afford a headstone. > > As I recall, Donaghmore is a fairly small community, and when I saw the name Skiffington on an "offical" log that looked like a list of renters in the Heritage Museum, I wrote to them no fewer than three times over the years to check up on this, but received no response. When we were there, the museum was wide open, but those in charge had gone to lunch presumably. I now believe that this museum is in Dungannon under a different name. If memory serves me right, I may even have tried to contact them in Dungannon, but again received no reply.> > I have always offered to pay any costs or make a donation for any extra effort, but that doesn't seem to be incentive enough. It's frustrating, therefore, to try to do business long distance.> > A newly discovered "far out" cousin whose forebear came from Co. Antrim and who was a brother to mine, checked out Patrick Skiffington's name at PRONI in Belfast and came up blank. Main problem is that he appears to have been born too early, maybe around 1815, and his wife Bridget Kelly 1814. I have no idea at all where she came from in Ireland.> > Now, your idea to write to the names you have listed bears some merit, because one year when I was home (Glasgow, Scotland) I went through every single kind of directory I could find and wrote down everyone listed with my maiden surname. It isn't a common name at all, so after writing to all 78 I'd found in the whole of the U.K., I heard from two who were actually related to me, their Scottish forebears having gone to England. This was before so many of us had personal computers, of course.> > I'll certainly follow up on your suggestion, for nothing ventured nothing gained.> > Note: I should add that the names is spelled variously: Skeffington, Skiffington, Skevington, Skivington, to compound the problem even more in trying to find Patrick!> > Thank you.> > Maisie> > > -------------> Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009

Sharon, Who knows if there is a connection, however. The Patrick Skiffington I am trying to "plant" somewhere in Co. Tyrone was born about 1815. He may have sailed as a passenger on the Jane Walker in 1834 to Baltimore, Maryland, USA. He married Bridget Kelly, 1840, in The Basilica of the Blessed Assumption, Baltimore. He died of injuries suffered when he served in the American Civil War in 1863. Their children were born in Baltimore and baptised in their local R.C. parish church. One of the daughters is my husband's grandmother...still have to get documents on her, though we do know she married a man from Hamburg. Germany. Through my own sleuthing and the help of other wonderfully generous listers, I have additional bits and pieces of Patrick Skiffington's life since coming to the U.S.A. It's his beginnings in Co. Tyrone that are built into the proverbial brick wall! Thanks, Sharon, for your input. As I can't get him backwards in Ireland, I can't move him forward to any connections thereafter. Maisie ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Smith To: campsiehills@sbcglobal.net ; cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com ; forsyththeresa@hotmail.com Sent: 2009-02-06 19:05 Subject: RE: [CoTyIre] Patrick Skiffington aka The Scarlet Pimpernel! I found this Patrick, maybe it is something to look at. Date of Death 3 Jan 1896 Year of Probate 1896 Name Patrick Skiffington County Tyrone Residence Eskragh > From: campsiehills@sbcglobal.net > To: CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com; forsyththeresa@hotmail.com > Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:38:10 -0800 > Subject: [CoTyIre] Patrick Skiffington aka The Scarlet Pimpernel! > > Re the following message from you, Theresa: > ------------------- > Hi again Maisie > > I was thinking!! since you've spent such a long time looking for Patrick Skeffington to no avail, it maybe would be worth your while checking out if parish records actually exist for the years you are searching. Many parishes didn't have records going back to early 1800s. If you go to the Proni website www.proni.gov.uk and click on the link for online guides and indexes, it will bring up in its list documents that show the Church of Ireland, Presbyterian and Roman Catholic parish records it has microfilmed for the whole of Ulster. It may well be that no records exist and you just have to accept that. > > However, there are still Skeffingtons in Co Tyrone, all mainly around the Dungannon area. Here's the list from the telephone directory: > > E SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 406960 Reaskmore Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1QF J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 4612 8 Glebe Pk, Dungannon, BT70 3PS > J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 9028 1282 127 Great Northern St, Belfast, BT9 7FL > M SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 7085 27 Lisgallon Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1SW > Martin J SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 8691 20 Knockmoy Pk, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4LU > N SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 0566 136 Annagher Rd, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4NE > O SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 61286 Dernmore Dv, Coalisland, Dungannon, BT71 4SL > P SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 78774 Willow Clo, Dungannon, BT70 1XF > R SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 929888A Reaskmore Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1QF > S SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8772 5209229 Carnteel Rd, Dungannon, BT70 1PG > S SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8774 978212 Clonmeen Cotts, Dungannon, BT71 5QN > Sean SkeffingtonTel: (028) 8776 7680 10 Speers Pl, Dungannon, BT70 1TQ > > It may well be that writing to them might lead to someone connected to your ancestors. If you do decide to write, it's a good idea to enclose your email address. Many people might not bother writing a letter back, but there will be some who will be quite happy to send an email. Should you decide to write then may I offer you the best of luck in finding a connection. > > Theresa > ------------------ > > Thanks again, Theresa, for your further suggestions. > > I enrolled the help of a fellow from Irish World to check the church records for Donaghmore, and then when there weren't any for there, he checked Dungannon, but came up empty-handed. More money down the drain! > > As I noted before, I even wrote to the Diocese in Armagh...not answer was the loud reply, as my mother used to crack! > > We even paid a visit to Donaghmore one time, checked out the Skiffington name with the shop people in the little shops, and talked to an ex-policeman who knew someone by the name of Skiffongton ...in 1941... said deadpan! We thought he was being unwittingly humorous. The ex-policeman came from the area and according to him there were no Skiffingtons left there. Someone else remarked that there were two bachelor brothers by this name, but they, too, were long since gone. Obviously there had to have been some Skiffingtons in Donaghmore at one point, but whether related to Patrick remains a puzzle. > > We went into the old Catholic cemetery across the street from the canon's office (he had no records prior to 1877) to check to see if there were any old headstones bearing the Skiffington name, but didn't have time to go through the whole place. I have a feeling that Patrick and his wife Bridget (Kelly) may not have come from enough money for their forebears to afford a headstone. > > As I recall, Donaghmore is a fairly small community, and when I saw the name Skiffington on an "offical" log that looked like a list of renters in the Heritage Museum, I wrote to them no fewer than three times over the years to check up on this, but received no response. When we were there, the museum was wide open, but those in charge had gone to lunch presumably. I now believe that this museum is in Dungannon under a different name. If memory serves me right, I may even have tried to contact them in Dungannon, but again received no reply. > > I have always offered to pay any costs or make a donation for any extra effort, but that doesn't seem to be incentive enough. It's frustrating, therefore, to try to do business long distance. > > A newly discovered "far out" cousin whose forebear came from Co. Antrim and who was a brother to mine, checked out Patrick Skiffington's name at PRONI in Belfast and came up blank. Main problem is that he appears to have been born too early, maybe around 1815, and his wife Bridget Kelly 1814. I have no idea at all where she came from in Ireland. > > Now, your idea to write to the names you have listed bears some merit, because one year when I was home (Glasgow, Scotland) I went through every single kind of directory I could find and wrote down everyone listed with my maiden surname. It isn't a common name at all, so after writing to all 78 I'd found in the whole of the U.K., I heard from two who were actually related to me, their Scottish forebears having gone to England. This was before so many of us had personal computers, of course. > > I'll certainly follow up on your suggestion, for nothing ventured nothing gained. > > Note: I should add that the names is spelled variously: Skeffington, Skiffington, Skevington, Skivington, to compound the problem even more in trying to find Patrick! > > Thank you. > > Maisie > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. See how it works.