Thank you Anne, I've been using that * more myself, but still use ?. sure helps with the misspellings of names back then. I hadn't known that you could put the * in the middle of a word, is helping with M*ch*l* for different spellings of Mitchell cheers Tammy Anne Brennan wrote: > Hi Tammy, > > you can also put a * in the middle of words where it can stand for any > number of letters(or none at all), so you could enter Rob*erts*n* or > Rob*erts*, which might yield less results than Rob* > I must admit to using a * rather than a ? most times, e.g. *el*en finds > Helen, Hellen and Ellen - very useful as the spelling is often inconsistent! > > Kind regards > > Anne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Mitchell > Sent: 01 March 2009 18:05 > To: aberdeen@rootsweb.com > Cc: mowat@rootsweb.com; CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com; > midlothian@rootsweb.com; SCT-KINCARDINE@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] [ABERDEEN] Ideas for Using the Scotland's People > Website > > Navigating scotlandspeople is easy to do. > > The one thing you need to know is how to search when you expect > different spellings of a name. Here are some tips on how to use their > wild card searches. > > ? means mystery letter- can be put anywhere in a name. > * means more letters unknown- can be put at the end of a name. > > examples: > > Sm?th = Smyth, Smith, Smeth > Sm?t* = Smyth, Smith, Smeth, Smythe, Smitty etc.. > > If your searching Mitchell, as I do a lot > I use > M?tch?l* = Metchal, Mitchall, Mitchelle etc. > > An interesting one is when I search Weir. Most of the time I can bet > that the ie-ei are inverted. If I just search Weir, I just get Weir and > visa versa. I can take care of this in once search by searching this: > W??r = Wier, Weir, wear etc... > > Lets not forget Robbertson. > Robbert* = Robbertsone, Robbertsoune etc.. > The hard part is getting past the fact that they might not have doubled > up the bb. In this case I use Rob* > but that returns a great amount of records, so be sure you use a good > first name. > > You can also use this on first names to. I do it a lot when searching a > first name James as we know it could be spelled Jas > Ja* Sm?t* could be James Smythe, Jas Smith or even Jane Smitty, > > so be aware of how you search to get the best returns. > > > I know your ancestors probably usually used one spelling. But they were > at the mercy of the clerks a lot of the time. > > I hope my tips have helped. I use scotlandspeople a lot. At first I > shied away because it was a pay site, but I have really had great luck > there. And the cost is reasonable. > http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ > > Tammy > Mowat Family International > http://www.tammymitchell.com/clanmowat/international/ > > Ray Hennessy wrote: >> 2009/3/1 Joan Hartman <jet2jeth@earthlink.net>: >> >>> ...I've never tried to navigate the Scotland's People >>> site but a cousin of mine has and perhaps she can >>> teach me the ropes. >> __________________________________________ >> >> Hi List >> >> Some time ago [before my calendar fell into a black >> hole] someone asked me to give them some tips on >> using the Scotland's People website [ScP]. >> I apologise to Rachel Collet and Judy Anderson for >> the delay in responding. >> >> I have been working on a set of ideas which, for want >> of a better hole, I have added to my names website. >> If you go to www.whatsinaname.net and key in "ScP" >> to the name field, you will be led to a set of pages with >> my thoughts on how to use ScP. A direct link is >> http://tinyurl.com/WIAN0003 >> >> NB NB These are only my ideas and may be deficient >> in both rigour and accuracy. But for newbies like Joan, >> I felt that a central pool of Ideas & Tips could be useful. >> >> There are only 5 detailed pages. Each should fit onto a >> normal computer screen so it is by no means exhaustive. >> >> I welcome ANY suggestions, corrections, criticisms >> etc. It may be best if you send your thoughts direct >> to me to save overloading the List with non-relevant >> discussions. >> > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Good Morning, Listers. John HEGERTY born County Tyrone, 1832, came to the US with his wife, Katherine, about 1850. They lived in New York for a time and then migrated to Milwaukee, Wisconsin. A possible lead is that Katherine's maiden name was DEVLIN. They brought their 3 year old son , William, with them. Later, when William was married he stated on his marriage certificate that he was born in Durmond, County Tyrone, Ireland. Of course, I've learned that this place does not exist and there are plenty of places in County Tyrone that have a similar spelling. In fact I have a whole list of places like that. Any other HEGERTY researchers out there?? Thanks for your time. Maxine
Any information about why there are towns named Newtownstewart, NewtownLimavady and such? When were the new towns made? are there two towns with the same basic name and one has the prefix Newtown? or is it only the one town and later did they drop the New town part? Pam Munro Connecticut US ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Cole" <tcole8@cox.net> To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] O'Brien's of Newtownstewart, County Tyrone > Hello, > > > > I am still looking for any information on the Patrick (- 1821,) and Mary > ( - > 1817 ) O'Brien family that emigrated from Newtownstewart, County Tyrone in > 1817 aboard the steamer the Harriet out of Liverpool and landed on Prince > Edward Island via shipwreck. Original destination was Newfoundland. > > > > Per my great grandfather John O'Brien, 1849-1914, his father Michael > (1809-1907) was born in Ireland along with 7 siblings. They all left at > one > time. His mother Mary died on the trip over. His father Patrick died 4 > years > later on PEI, CA. > > > > I can't find any real O'Brien activity in Newtownstewart or Tyrone. It > doesn't appear as though O'Brien's were really significant in that part of > Ireland. > > > > It's possible that his connection in Canada was the James and Margaret > Casey > family from Newfoundland and originally from Tyrone.. But I don't know. > > > > I've learned that there are no records of Births before 1820 in the > Catholic > Churches in Tyrone . is this true? > > > > Any advice or input for where I should continue searching would be > helpful. > > > > Terri Cole > > Cave Creek, Arizona USA > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I believe the town name came from Sir Wlm Stewart of Newtown Stewart, Galloway Scotland, after his family and birthplace. That's what's said about it in Wikipedia. There is an O'Brien of Tyrone County pedigree @ Ulster Ancestry, but it's not clear that my GGG Grandfather Patrick is a part of it. I'm still searching. Thanks for the question, Terri -----Original Message----- From: pmunro@sbcglobal.net [mailto:pmunro@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 12:20 PM To: Terri Cole; cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newtownstewart, County Tyrone Any information about why there are towns named Newtownstewart, NewtownLimavady and such? When were the new towns made? are there two towns with the same basic name and one has the prefix Newtown? or is it only the one town and later did they drop the New town part? Pam Munro Connecticut US ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Cole" <tcole8@cox.net> To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] O'Brien's of Newtownstewart, County Tyrone > Hello, > > > > I am still looking for any information on the Patrick (- 1821,) and Mary > ( - > 1817 ) O'Brien family that emigrated from Newtownstewart, County Tyrone in > 1817 aboard the steamer the Harriet out of Liverpool and landed on Prince > Edward Island via shipwreck. Original destination was Newfoundland. > > > > Per my great grandfather John O'Brien, 1849-1914, his father Michael > (1809-1907) was born in Ireland along with 7 siblings. They all left at > one > time. His mother Mary died on the trip over. His father Patrick died 4 > years > later on PEI, CA. > > > > I can't find any real O'Brien activity in Newtownstewart or Tyrone. It > doesn't appear as though O'Brien's were really significant in that part of > Ireland. > > > > It's possible that his connection in Canada was the James and Margaret > Casey > family from Newfoundland and originally from Tyrone.. But I don't know. > > > > I've learned that there are no records of Births before 1820 in the > Catholic > Churches in Tyrone . is this true? > > > > Any advice or input for where I should continue searching would be > helpful. > > > > Terri Cole > > Cave Creek, Arizona USA > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The closest townland that I can find for either civil parish of Longfield East or Longfield West is Coolkeeragh which is in Longfield East Civil Parish. That was in the Poor Law Union of Omagh; the adjacent civ. par. of Longfield West was in the PLU of Castlederg. You may want to try the Primary Valuation (a.k.a Griffith's) to see if any family members were still living there. I hope that's helpful. Clare L. -----Original Message----- From: Laurel Baty <laurelbaty@comcast.net> To: 'Carolyn Cowart' <carolyn412@hotmail.com>; cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 2:21 pm Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Martin family << Ancestry.com has the New York Emigrant Savings Bank records on-line and I see a John Martin, born 1826 County Tyrone, married to Bridget Clark (account 8098). He states that he emigrated to America on "St Patrick" in 1847. Another bank record gives his father as Thomas and his mother as Rose Mullins and states he emigrated in 1846--so I assume these are the records that you speak of. He has an earlier account--#704 which is referred to in a later record--and this account test book gives his townland of origin: Nat. Kulkeivagh(??), parish of Longfield, Co. Tyrone, came 5 yrs last Sept. on Ship St Patrick from Liverpool, father Thomas dead 14 yrs mother Rose Mullin living in Keilkervagh (??), 3 bro ??, Chas, Michael & 3 sisters Catherine, Ellen, & Ann single works on C Ferry for 3 yrs next July. [John Martin was a Boatman for the Calvary Cemetery Ferry] >>
Hello, I am still looking for any information on the Patrick (- 1821,) and Mary ( - 1817 ) O'Brien family that emigrated from Newtownstewart, County Tyrone in 1817 aboard the steamer the Harriet out of Liverpool and landed on Prince Edward Island via shipwreck. Original destination was Newfoundland. Per my great grandfather John O'Brien, 1849-1914, his father Michael (1809-1907) was born in Ireland along with 7 siblings. They all left at one time. His mother Mary died on the trip over. His father Patrick died 4 years later on PEI, CA. I can't find any real O'Brien activity in Newtownstewart or Tyrone. It doesn't appear as though O'Brien's were really significant in that part of Ireland. It's possible that his connection in Canada was the James and Margaret Casey family from Newfoundland and originally from Tyrone.. But I don't know. I've learned that there are no records of Births before 1820 in the Catholic Churches in Tyrone . is this true? Any advice or input for where I should continue searching would be helpful. Terri Cole Cave Creek, Arizona USA
Hello, I need some advise,please. I am researching my Martin family and am at a stand still. From everything found so far, brothers, James, John, Joseph and Michael came to the United States to New York between 1840 and 1858. John and Michael remained in New York.They supposedly married sisters, Bridgett and Ann Clark.Death certificates and bank records state they were born in Co. Tyrone. Bank records gave their parents as Thomas and Rose Mullins Martin.Not having made contact with any possible descendants in N.Y.how would I began to find what town, village,ect. in Co. Tyrone they were from?Also, the name McKenny/McKenna/McKinney is closely related here. Two McKenny ladies, Ellen and Rosanna are living with the Martins in N.Y.and are buried in the family plot. According to their death certs. their parents were, James McKenny and Ellen Martin and John Mc Kinney and Rosanna Martin.Any help or suggestion appreciated. Thank so much. Carolyn _________________________________________________________________ Windows Liveā¢: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009
Ancestry.com has the New York Emigrant Savings Bank records on-line and I see a John Martin, born 1826 County Tyrone, married to Bridget Clark (account 8098). He states that he emigrated to America on "St Patrick" in 1847. Another bank record gives his father as Thomas and his mother as Rose Mullins and states he emigrated in 1846--so I assume these are the records that you speak of. He has an earlier account--#704 which is referred to in a later record--and this account test book gives his townland of origin: Nat. Kulkeivagh(??), parish of Longfield, Co. Tyrone, came 5 yrs last Sept. on Ship St Patrick from Liverpool, father Thomas dead 14 yrs mother Rose Mullin living in Keilkervagh (??), 3 bro ??, Chas, Michael & 3 sisters Catherine, Ellen, & Ann single works on C Ferry for 3 yrs next July. [John Martin was a Boatman for the Calvary Cemetery Ferry] Some people have all of the luck! If you need a copy of this record just email me privately at laurelbaty@comcast.net Other possible sources for his townland of origin: 1) Military records--was he in the Civil war? Did he have a pension? Were any of his brothers in the War? Military records often give townland of birth in Ireland. 2) Naturalization records--was John Martin or any of his brother naturalized? -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Cowart Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 1:07 PM To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Martin family Hello, I need some advise,please. I am researching my Martin family and am at a stand still. From everything found so far, brothers, James, John, Joseph and Michael came to the United States to New York between 1840 and 1858. John and Michael remained in New York.They supposedly married sisters, Bridgett and Ann Clark.Death certificates and bank records state they were born in Co. Tyrone. Bank records gave their parents as Thomas and Rose Mullins Martin.Not having made contact with any possible descendants in N.Y.how would I began to find what town, village,ect. in Co. Tyrone they were from?Also, the name McKenny/McKenna/McKinney is closely related here. Two McKenny ladies, Ellen and Rosanna are living with the Martins in N.Y.and are buried in the family plot. According to their death certs. their parents were, James McKenny and Ellen Martin and John Mc Kinney and Rosanna Martin.Any help or suggestion appreciated. Thank so much. Carolyn _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveT: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Navigating scotlandspeople is easy to do. The one thing you need to know is how to search when you expect different spellings of a name. Here are some tips on how to use their wild card searches. ? means mystery letter- can be put anywhere in a name. * means more letters unknown- can be put at the end of a name. examples: Sm?th = Smyth, Smith, Smeth Sm?t* = Smyth, Smith, Smeth, Smythe, Smitty etc.. If your searching Mitchell, as I do a lot I use M?tch?l* = Metchal, Mitchall, Mitchelle etc. An interesting one is when I search Weir. Most of the time I can bet that the ie-ei are inverted. If I just search Weir, I just get Weir and visa versa. I can take care of this in once search by searching this: W??r = Wier, Weir, wear etc... Lets not forget Robbertson. Robbert* = Robbertsone, Robbertsoune etc.. The hard part is getting past the fact that they might not have doubled up the bb. In this case I use Rob* but that returns a great amount of records, so be sure you use a good first name. You can also use this on first names to. I do it a lot when searching a first name James as we know it could be spelled Jas Ja* Sm?t* could be James Smythe, Jas Smith or even Jane Smitty, so be aware of how you search to get the best returns. I know your ancestors probably usually used one spelling. But they were at the mercy of the clerks a lot of the time. I hope my tips have helped. I use scotlandspeople a lot. At first I shied away because it was a pay site, but I have really had great luck there. And the cost is reasonable. http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Tammy Mowat Family International http://www.tammymitchell.com/clanmowat/international/ Ray Hennessy wrote: > 2009/3/1 Joan Hartman <jet2jeth@earthlink.net>: > >> ...I've never tried to navigate the Scotland's People >> site but a cousin of mine has and perhaps she can >> teach me the ropes. > __________________________________________ > > Hi List > > Some time ago [before my calendar fell into a black > hole] someone asked me to give them some tips on > using the Scotland's People website [ScP]. > I apologise to Rachel Collet and Judy Anderson for > the delay in responding. > > I have been working on a set of ideas which, for want > of a better hole, I have added to my names website. > If you go to www.whatsinaname.net and key in "ScP" > to the name field, you will be led to a set of pages with > my thoughts on how to use ScP. A direct link is > http://tinyurl.com/WIAN0003 > > NB NB These are only my ideas and may be deficient > in both rigour and accuracy. But for newbies like Joan, > I felt that a central pool of Ideas & Tips could be useful. > > There are only 5 detailed pages. Each should fit onto a > normal computer screen so it is by no means exhaustive. > > I welcome ANY suggestions, corrections, criticisms > etc. It may be best if you send your thoughts direct > to me to save overloading the List with non-relevant > discussions. >
Loretta and Claire, a big thank you for your replies, helps clarify spellings from the past. Cheers, Denis On Feb 28, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Loretta wrote: > Add this to that. In one of the many books about Clan Donald of > Scotland, > the author's name was written MacDonald, McDonald and M'Donald in > various > places on the title page and foreward. I don't have that book but > believe > it was "The Clan Donald" by Rev. Angus Macdonald and Rev. Archibald > Macdonald. > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 01:23 PM > To: Genealogy > Cc: CoTyrone CoTyrone > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] M' Vs Mc > > > Yes, Mc and M' are the same (and, though you didn't ask, Mac can be > in the mix as well). The most modern usage of M' I saw was in a US > newspaper (while browsing through microfilm for a death notice) when > I saw a headline about General Douglas M'Arthur. It caught my eye > because 1) though I'm used to seeing M' in Irish records, I'd never > seen it used in US records, and 2) I had never seen it used in such a > recent context. Doubtless it was used for space reasons (in the > article itself, "MacArthur" was spelled out), but it signaled to me > that the M' usage was common enough (in the 1940s-1950s) that the > editors expected the readers to be familiar with it. > > Hope that helps. > > Claire K > seekay@comcast.net > > > On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Genealogy wrote: > >> ...Searching...the Flax Growers 1776, County >> Tyrone....My question is: In a surname does M' mean the same as >> Mc..... ? >> ... > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Add this to that. In one of the many books about Clan Donald of Scotland, the author's name was written MacDonald, McDonald and M'Donald in various places on the title page and foreward. I don't have that book but believe it was "The Clan Donald" by Rev. Angus Macdonald and Rev. Archibald Macdonald. -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 01:23 PM To: Genealogy Cc: CoTyrone CoTyrone Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] M' Vs Mc Yes, Mc and M' are the same (and, though you didn't ask, Mac can be in the mix as well). The most modern usage of M' I saw was in a US newspaper (while browsing through microfilm for a death notice) when I saw a headline about General Douglas M'Arthur. It caught my eye because 1) though I'm used to seeing M' in Irish records, I'd never seen it used in US records, and 2) I had never seen it used in such a recent context. Doubtless it was used for space reasons (in the article itself, "MacArthur" was spelled out), but it signaled to me that the M' usage was common enough (in the 1940s-1950s) that the editors expected the readers to be familiar with it. Hope that helps. Claire K seekay@comcast.net On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Genealogy wrote: > ...Searching...the Flax Growers 1776, County > Tyrone....My question is: In a surname does M' mean the same as > Mc..... ? > ... ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Yes, Mc and M' are the same (and, though you didn't ask, Mac can be in the mix as well). The most modern usage of M' I saw was in a US newspaper (while browsing through microfilm for a death notice) when I saw a headline about General Douglas M'Arthur. It caught my eye because 1) though I'm used to seeing M' in Irish records, I'd never seen it used in US records, and 2) I had never seen it used in such a recent context. Doubtless it was used for space reasons (in the article itself, "MacArthur" was spelled out), but it signaled to me that the M' usage was common enough (in the 1940s-1950s) that the editors expected the readers to be familiar with it. Hope that helps. Claire K seekay@comcast.net On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Genealogy wrote: > ...Searching...the Flax Growers 1776, County > Tyrone....My question is: In a surname does M' mean the same as > Mc..... ? > ...
Possibly, a kind person will be able to answer a question regarding M'. Searching for my wife's ancestors on the Flax Growers 1776, County Tyrone. I came upon two spellings. One using the prefix M' and one without. My question is: In a surname does M' mean the same as Mc..... ? Enumerators listed M' Laughlin and Laughlin among other spellings. Thank you in advance. Cheers, Denis
Just looking at these for a possible connection! Anyone relate to these Halls please? 1882 William son of David Hall Slackerna, Castle Caulfield, Co. Tyrone, married Margaret Eliza Breadon dau. John Breadon. Lenagh, 1942 Robert Hall, Killybressill married Mary Jane Breadon, daughter of George Breadon, Lenagh.
Hello James. In case you don't already have this, here is an earlier (probably immediately previous) generation of this family: In 1796, Adam Lynd, Joseph Lynd, and William Lynd were flax growers in Derrylorean Parish, County Tyrone while Adam Lynnd was a flax grower in Artrea Parish (http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/tyrone.htm - Flax Growers of Ireland, 1796 of County Tyrone from a list published by The Irish Linnen Board). I'm assuming that in 1796 your Adam would have been about 7 years old. I have to check my source on the following, but also in 1796 Adam Lynd and Joseph Lynd were registered as freeholders in Ballyreagh, Derryloran Parish, both with lands valued at 40 shillings. Adam was residing at Cookstown and Joseph at Ballyreagh. I am descended from Lynns of County Tyrone and have been studying all variations of the name in Scotland and Ulster. In Scotland, Linn, Lynn, Lind and Lynd (and their various corruptions) all were branches of the de Lynne family ("The Genealogy of the Family of Lind, and the Montgomeries of Smithton," Sir Robert Douglas, Baronet, Windsor, 1795), which likely derived from the Norman family de la Lynde ("The Norman People and Their Existing Descendants in the British Dominions and the United States of America," Anonymous, Pub. Henry S. King & Co., London, 1874). Some members of the different branches in Scotland migrated to Ulster in the 17th century. FYI, my Hugh Linn or Lynn, born in 1753, married Sarah Widney whose family reportedly owned an estate in County Tyrone. They came to the U.S. in 1788. I don't know exactly where he was born, but the name Hugh appears in Tyrone in 1776 and again (after my Hugh emigrated) in 1796. Slainte Loretta (Lynn) Layman -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Lynd Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 07:59 AM To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] Adam LYND from Cookstown, Co. Tyrone A week ago, cousin Bob Lynd and I went to the American National Archives in Washington, D.C. We were looking for the ship's list that documents the crossing of our ancestor Adam LYND from Cookstown, Co. Tyrone. We first consulted an index made in 1934 as a Depression-era work project: it said Adam, his sons Robert and William and daughter ....
A week ago, cousin Bob Lynd and I went to the American National Archives in Washington, D.C. We were looking for the ship's list that documents the crossing of our ancestor Adam LYND from Cookstown, Co. Tyrone. We first consulted an index made in 1934 as a Depression-era work project: it said Adam, his sons Robert and William and daughter Eliza came on the Wellington; the date given was 6/1839. I spent the next several hours looking at alphabetical registers of ships' arrivals in New York for 1839. The Wellington arrived in January, May and September and left New York in June bound for London. Meanwhile, Bob was combing actual lists of the Wellington, looking for their names to no avail. Finally, we availed ourselves of the Archives' free access to Ancestry.com. A search for Adam LYND turned up the list and said they arrived on the Wilmot. It provided an image of page 2 of the list with their names on it. It also provided the accurate reference to the microfilm with the list on it. We put the list back up on the reader. The title page of the list said they arrived on the Westchester! The moral of the story is if you find a reference to one ship you have to check other sources to make sure some clerk didn't make a mistake in transcribing the information in the 20th Century! Anyway, the good news is that after I have searching for this list for fifty years, we now know that our common ancestor Adam LYND (at age 50, a farmer), our great great grandfather (Jenny's great grandfather) Robert (at age 21), his sister Eliza (17) and brother William (15) sailed from Liverpool on board the ship the Westchester and arrived in New York City on 26 June 1839. Adam declared his intention to settle in Upper Canada. What is curious is that Bob's great great grandfather Joseph is not part of the group, nor is his brother George. However, both were in Ontario for their weddings in 1840. Perhaps they came on an earlier ship. If you want to see the whole document in question, you can order the microfilm at your local LDS: roll M237_38, list #418 (near the end of the roll). On 26-Feb-09, at 3:01 AM, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the > CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive > these messages, please follow the instructions on http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. KYLE in Northern Ireland (Dana King) > 2. Re: KYLE in Northern Ireland (Trudy L Barbisan) > 3. Ireland Civil registrations (FT & AM) > 4. COOK (nee GROVES), YOUNG Co. Tyrone 1848 (Lyn McLeavy) > 5. Re: [NIR-TYRONE] Tyrone Newspaper (Tammy Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:53:06 -0800 (PST) > From: Dana King <househistory@rogers.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] KYLE in Northern Ireland > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <350425.54085.qm@web88304.mail.re4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello Everyone, > > I am descended from my great-grandparents Charles?CALDWELL (1860 - > 1911)?and Martha Jane KYLE?(1863 - 1946). They were both born in co. > Tyrone but immigrated to Toronto, Canada in 1888. Charles' mother, > Catherine CALDWELL (1827 - 1910) came with them. Catherine was > married to Matthew Caldwell (1827 - ). > > I would like to share information with anyone else researching these > folks. > > Thank you, > > Dana King > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:12:44 -0800 > From: "Trudy L Barbisan" <barbisantl@qwest.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] KYLE in Northern Ireland > To: "'Dana King'" <househistory@rogers.com>, > <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <87FB15C7D97D49D3AA2D7BE313BC3F4B@OfficeTrudy> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dana - > I am researching KYLE in Tyrone. Do you happen to know any of > Martha Jane > KYLE's siblings or parents? My Kyle's are at least three > generations of > Josephs. > Thanks, > Trudy Kyle Barbisan > Portland, Oregon > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dana King > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:53 AM > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CoTyIre] KYLE in Northern Ireland > > Hello Everyone, > > I am descended from my great-grandparents Charles?CALDWELL (1860 - > 1911)?and > Martha Jane KYLE?(1863 - 1946). They were both born in co. Tyrone but > immigrated to Toronto, Canada in 1888. Charles' mother, Catherine > CALDWELL > (1827 - 1910) came with them. Catherine was married to Matthew > Caldwell > (1827 - ). > > I would like to share information with anyone else researching these > folks. > > Thank you, > > Dana King > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:00:47 +1000 > From: "FT & AM" <kaw56@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ireland Civil registrations > To: <CoTyroneIreland-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1552980192614B74AFF6A0E8F54603D2@AlmaPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello All, > > The following is a good site that explains Ireland's Registrar's > Districts > both before and after 1922. > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/RegDistricts.htm > > Regards > Alma > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:54:51 +1100 > From: Lyn McLeavy <lynmc@dodo.com.au> > Subject: [CoTyIre] COOK (nee GROVES), YOUNG Co. Tyrone 1848 > To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <ade4bdf1b7304d4a921cf109b2bd5a4b@dodo.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Hello everyone > > I'm looking for the place of origin for my above ancestors. > > All I know is JANE COOK (nee GROVES?) b. 1824 Co. Tyrone was sentenced > in Co. Tyrone on 30 Oct 1849 for ten years for stealing a pot lid. > Her > 10yo daughter > ANN YOUNG b. 1840 was transported with her. Another child seems to > have been left behind. > > Jane's husband, WILLIAM YOUNG seems to have died in the famine. > > Jane Cook had a brother, JOSEPH COOK who by 1850 was in > Philadelphia,USA. > > I would love to see any newspaper account relating to the trial of > Jane > Cook or any other information which allows me to find their place of > origin. > > Many thanks > > Lyn McLeavy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:41:34 -0800 > From: Tammy Mitchell <ancestry@ripandrevmedia.ca> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] [NIR-TYRONE] Tyrone Newspaper > To: nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com, CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <49A60F6E.7050109@ripandrevmedia.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi, I do know of this list of papers, that are available thru > > you can search the site and order copies, they snailed some out to me > before. I know it's not tyrone but the article I found contained a > person from tyrone. > http://journalism.wlu.edu/Farrar/images/Farrar%20Collection > %20Lists.doc > http://journalism.wlu.edu/Farrar/collection.htm > > Tammy > > The article I got from them is posted here, in case you want to see > what > type of document you can get. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/muster/TheExaminerJulyAug1812.html > > E Macklin wrote: >> Hello List: >> >> What was the major newspaper for County Tyrone during the 1840's >> to 1860's that might have had >> a column that delete with obituaries. Thank you. >> >> Eric >> As in all genealogical endeavours, >> The further back you look, >> The further back you see. >> Please post messages in plain text only >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-TYRONE-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email > to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 57 > **********************************************
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Any information regarding Margaret MOORE born circa 1803 Ballymacan, Clogher, died poss March 12, 1853 Fardross Mountain, Co. Tyrone....married John DELAP (DUNLOP) 1804-aft 1860)... would be appreciated. Their children were Matthew, James, Mary, Anne, James (born circa Aug 30, 1840??), Samuel, John. Brenda
Hello everyone I'm looking for the place of origin for my above ancestors. All I know is JANE COOK (nee GROVES?) b. 1824 Co. Tyrone was sentenced in Co. Tyrone on 30 Oct 1849 for ten years for stealing a pot lid. Her 10yo daughter ANN YOUNG b. 1840 was transported with her. Another child seems to have been left behind. Jane's husband, WILLIAM YOUNG seems to have died in the famine. Jane Cook had a brother, JOSEPH COOK who by 1850 was in Philadelphia,USA. I would love to see any newspaper account relating to the trial of Jane Cook or any other information which allows me to find their place of origin. Many thanks Lyn McLeavy
Hello All, The following is a good site that explains Ireland's Registrar's Districts both before and after 1922. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/RegDistricts.htm Regards Alma