Can somebody advise who I should contact to obtain information on my Grandfather? He was born Nov. 3, 1863 in Clogher, County Tyrone - James Joseph Carroll. Keep hitting a wall and cannot locate any info on him or his family. Thanks.....Bill Carroll, Colorado Springs, Colorado USA -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:01 AM To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 113 You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, please follow the instructions on http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html Today's Topics: 1. Tyrone County Parish Names (Fred Hagan) 2. Re: Tyrone County Parish Names (Kevin P Nash) 3. Re: Tyrone County Parish Names (Ray) 4. Re: Tyrone County Parish Names (John Polk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 18:25:33 -0400 From: Fred Hagan <keystone72@gmail.com> Subject: [CoTyIre] Tyrone County Parish Names To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <e265b3720905031525m54132c95g88cbf46bfa9ebd8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can someone point me to a web site that lists all the parish names in County Tyrone? I know of only one: Clonoe but would like to see the spelling of all the others. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 00:09:42 +0100 From: "Kevin P Nash" <kevinpnash@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Tyrone County Parish Names To: "Fred Hagan" <keystone72@gmail.com>, <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <249BA67904F84ECF8F04E53391D8500E@Study> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Fred Go to County Tyrone Genealogy at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tyrone/parishes/index.html Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Hagan" <keystone72@gmail.com> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:25 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] Tyrone County Parish Names > Can someone point me to a web site that lists all the parish names in > County > Tyrone? I know of only one: Clonoe but would like to see the spelling of > all the others. > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:31:25 +1000 From: "Ray" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Tyrone County Parish Names To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002a01c9cc4f$a8b310c0$4001a8c0@linda> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Fred. The best and easiest way that I know of is this: 1. go to www.seanruad.com 2. scroll down the home page to their SECOND search-box, which is headed up "show me a list of parishes in the selected county"... 3. select Tyrone for the county 4. press SUBMIT 5. Voila! you should have your results. I would add one further comment, which is that these resulting Parish names are showing only one 'standardised' spelling; whereas we know from our other Irish research that alternative spellings in Ireland abound, not only for surnames, but also for most placenames. HTH: ray in oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Hagan" <keystone72@gmail.com> > Can someone point me to a web site that lists all the parish names in > County > Tyrone? ... ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:17:28 -0400 From: "John Polk" <jfpolk@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Tyrone County Parish Names To: "Ray" <ray15@optusnet.com.au>, <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <D8144C98F27449ACA8A299D10C4DDE41@DG1C3Z11> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original PRONI also has a nice site which provides a map of all the parishes in each of the six counties and a listing of all townlands in each parish. Go to http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/local_history/geographical_index/parishes.htm John Polk Havre de Grace MD USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 20:31 Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Tyrone County Parish Names > Hello Fred. > > The best and easiest way that I know of is this: > > 1. go to www.seanruad.com > 2. scroll down the home page to their SECOND search-box, which is headed > up > "show me a list of parishes in the selected county"... > 3. select Tyrone for the county > 4. press SUBMIT > 5. Voila! you should have your results. > > I would add one further comment, which is that these resulting Parish > names > are showing only one 'standardised' spelling; whereas we know from our > other > Irish research that alternative spellings in Ireland abound, not only for > surnames, but also for most placenames. > > HTH: ray in oz. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Hagan" <keystone72@gmail.com> > > > >> Can someone point me to a web site that lists all the parish names in >> County >> Tyrone? ... > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hello Fred. The best and easiest way that I know of is this: 1. go to www.seanruad.com 2. scroll down the home page to their SECOND search-box, which is headed up "show me a list of parishes in the selected county"... 3. select Tyrone for the county 4. press SUBMIT 5. Voila! you should have your results. I would add one further comment, which is that these resulting Parish names are showing only one 'standardised' spelling; whereas we know from our other Irish research that alternative spellings in Ireland abound, not only for surnames, but also for most placenames. HTH: ray in oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Hagan" <keystone72@gmail.com> > Can someone point me to a web site that lists all the parish names in > County > Tyrone? ...

Hi Fred Go to County Tyrone Genealogy at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tyrone/parishes/index.html Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Hagan" <keystone72@gmail.com> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 11:25 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] Tyrone County Parish Names > Can someone point me to a web site that lists all the parish names in > County > Tyrone? I know of only one: Clonoe but would like to see the spelling of > all the others. > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

PRONI also has a nice site which provides a map of all the parishes in each of the six counties and a listing of all townlands in each parish. Go to http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/local_history/geographical_index/parishes.htm John Polk Havre de Grace MD USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 20:31 Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Tyrone County Parish Names > Hello Fred. > > The best and easiest way that I know of is this: > > 1. go to www.seanruad.com > 2. scroll down the home page to their SECOND search-box, which is headed > up > "show me a list of parishes in the selected county"... > 3. select Tyrone for the county > 4. press SUBMIT > 5. Voila! you should have your results. > > I would add one further comment, which is that these resulting Parish > names > are showing only one 'standardised' spelling; whereas we know from our > other > Irish research that alternative spellings in Ireland abound, not only for > surnames, but also for most placenames. > > HTH: ray in oz. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Hagan" <keystone72@gmail.com> > > > >> Can someone point me to a web site that lists all the parish names in >> County >> Tyrone? ... > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone point me to a web site that lists all the parish names in County Tyrone? I know of only one: Clonoe but would like to see the spelling of all the others.

I am new to the list and would like to hear from anyone who may have information on my Vance line. Details I know are John Vance born 1742 died 1799. Married ??Jane Brown about 1770. Two children Margaret born c1775 and George Washington born c1782 I am descended from Margaret who married George Balbirnie in1797 in Coagh They had 2 children born in Ireland-Robert Anstruther in Larne in 1798 and Jane in Ballymena c 1800. This Vance line died out as Margarets brother George didn't marry. Robert Anstruther added the name Vans/Vance to his name in 1854 in honour to his mother's family. Would like to know John Vances pedigree or any general information if anyone can help Regards Trish

I see the Hearth Rolls for Dungannon, Dunagheady and Ardstraw are posted on our County Tyrone website. Does anyone know of an on-line source for the Hearth Rolls for all of Tyrone? Thanks - John Polk

One more.. Incumbants of Ardstraw http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/churchrecord/Incumbants-of-Ardstraw.html Cheers Tammy

Hi, just a couple of updates today Tithe Applotment Book -Kilskeery Parish Co. Tyrone, 1826 Select Townlands of: Cabragh, Castle Mervyn, Cavanamara, Corlea, Doogary, Dreigh, Drumardnagross. Drumharvey, Lisnahanna, Makenny, & Shanmullagh http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/tithe/tithe_Kilskeery1826.htm UPDATED Tithe Applotment Book: Pomeroy Parish Co. Tyrone, Various Years Various Townlands & Select Townlands of: Skea and Drumconor NEW: (incomplete) townlands of Aghnaskea, Claggin, Cornamaddy, Corkhill Crossdernott, Crosscavenagh, Glenbeg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/tithe/t-a-pomeroy.html Tithe Index http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/tithe/ That's all for today Tammy

Hi, I got this from another list. Yahoo has announced that Geocities is ending. If anybody has genealogical information on Geocities, it would be a good idea to move it now. cheers Tammy

Hello, I am researching the family name Wilson. The person I am interested in is male, a teacher in the village of Sandholes, about the early to mid 1800's. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is my first attempt. Thank you for any suggestions. M. Hilderley

Hello List Members As many of you are aware, we here at CoTyroneIreland began with an idea, which has culminated in our community web-site. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/index.html There are a great many people who have contributed their time, energy and dedication to our project, and without them (you) we simply could not provide the fantastic array of data that we do. Unfortunately, we are in dire help of another volunteer. We are desperately needing someone, who has fluent knowledge of FTP and html, to upload pictures to the site. Tammy simply cannot handle it all, and nor should she. She is also short on time so cannot train anyone to handle this aspect. Please, if you can help out, and have the knowledge, contact me at 4theloveoftyrone@gmail.com We do have a bit of a back-log of pictures needing to be up-loaded, with more coming in. I'm sure a great many folks would love to view these beautiful pics. I look forward to hearing from someone. TIA~ Teena

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Calling Teena !! Are you still active? Can't seem to find your current e-mail address. Have info for you. Sincerely Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa ---------------------------------------------------------------

I attempted to send the complete transcript and it didn't go through. This is an excellent article regarding the Scots-Irish. Cheers, Denis The Scots-Irish: The Thirteenth Tribe http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ulster-scots.html Thanks to Raymond Campbell Paterson

Hello Cliff. I think it's helpful to think of it as being the difference between one's citizenship and one's ancestral origins. Genealogists generally are looking for the latter. I am an American citizen, as were several generations of my ancestors, but my ancestral roots are German, Scottish, Irish, English and Welsh. My grandfather knew only that his great-grandfather came from Ulster. Anyone in that situation who refuses to consider that their ancestors were anything more than simply Irish will not learn much about his or her family tree. At the same time, of course, some of my Scottish ancestors in Ulster very likely married Irish. It is a puzzle. By the way, my husband's paternal grandmother was a Johnston; and I like Ramsay's toast. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff. Johnston Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 07:09 PM To: kentner wilson; COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] 1816 Wilsons You've run into the age-old dilemna of Scots-Irish continuing to call themselves Scots regardless of their being born in Ireland. My gggrandfatherf was born in Ireland to a Scots father according to oral family history; however, even when he settled in Upper Canada, he and others in the area referred to themselves as "Scots". Good luck on this one. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay

My understanding is that the original American term for someone from Ulster was Scotch-Irish, which led to the often incorrect assumption that the person thus was of mixed Scottish and Irish ancestry. The term Scots-Irish was an early but ineffective attempt at rectifying the situation. Today, I believe Ulster Scot is the preferred, and certainly clearer, term for a person whose ancestry was Scottish but who lived for one or more generations in Ulster. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gary Richardson Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 07:21 PM To: kentnerwilson@gmail.com; cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] 1816 Wilsons It's called Scots Irish! My great great grandfather was born in Mullawinny, Co. Tyrone, but referred to himself as being from Scotland in about half of the census records, after he moved to New Jersey. Apparently, Scots Irish is an American term, and not particularly accurate, in terms of describing where people with that designation came from. Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:59:16 -0600 From: kentnerwilson@gmail.com To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] 1816 Wilsons In regard to the Wilson that came to the USA in 1816-- is there a reason they would have used Co. Tyrone if they really were from Scotland? One side of the family says they were from Scotland. _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover HotmailR: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mob ile2_042009 ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's called Scots Irish! My great great grandfather was born in Mullawinny, Co. Tyrone, but referred to himself as being from Scotland in about half of the census records, after he moved to New Jersey. Apparently, Scots Irish is an American term, and not particularly accurate, in terms of describing where people with that designation came from. Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:59:16 -0600 From: kentnerwilson@gmail.com To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] 1816 Wilsons In regard to the Wilson that came to the USA in 1816-- is there a reason they would have used Co. Tyrone if they really were from Scotland? One side of the family says they were from Scotland. _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009

You've run into the age-old dilemna of Scots-Irish continuing to call themselves Scots regardless of their being born in Ireland. My gggrandfatherf was born in Ireland to a Scots father according to oral family history; however, even when he settled in Upper Canada, he and others in the area referred to themselves as "Scots". Good luck on this one. Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay ----- Original Message ----- From: "kentner wilson" <kentnerwilson@gmail.com> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:59 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] 1816 Wilsons > In regard to the Wilson that came to the USA in 1816-- is there a reason > they would have used Co. Tyrone if they really were from Scotland? One > side > of the family says they were from Scotland. > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In regard to the Wilson that came to the USA in 1816-- is there a reason they would have used Co. Tyrone if they really were from Scotland? One side of the family says they were from Scotland.