Anyone can download a website and store the information on their own computer with some free software. HTtrack is one example. There is also waybackmachine that has archived billions of websites from 1996. http://www.archive.org/web/web.php The site is painfully slow, but it can get back websites that have gone away. HTtrack is free - free to download and use. It is described as: "It allows you to download a World Wide Web site from the Internet to a local directory, building recursively all directories, getting HTML, images, and other files from the server to your computer. HTTrack arranges the original site's relative link-structure. Simply open a page of the "mirrored" website in your browser, and you can browse the site from link to link, as if you were viewing it online." Waybackmachine has the following description: "Browse through over 150 billion web pages archived from 1996 to a few months ago. To start surfing the Wayback, type in the web address of a site or page where you would like to start, and press enter. Then select from the archived dates available. The resulting pages point to other archived pages at as close a date as possible." Hope this helps someone. Alan. John Hogg wrote: > There are programs to download web sites. I have done several of those > where persons are deceased and am trying to get permission to publish > publically like Rootsweb > > I have enough disk space to download some if you have some specific names > > Guess I asked for that > > I personally wont miss the Geocities advertising > > > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Friends Jim McKane has been working very hard to bring our photos up to date and re-organizing them. He's done a fantastic job of it and here are the links to the new pages. Thanks so much Jim! Business pictures http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/business/businessindex.html Church pictures http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/churches/churchindex.html Old Family Photographs: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/family/familyindex.html Tombstone photographs http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/tombstones/tombstoneindex.html Town & Scenic Photographs http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/towns/townindex.html This 2nd link is of the old gallery of photos which was not done by Jim http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/gallery2/index.html Please follow these rules when submitting photos for our community web-site- - A maximum of six photographs is allowed for each researcher - Each photo must: - - relate to someone born in Co. Tyrone - be taken before 1920 - include the approx. date taken (if known) - include the approx. date of birth - include the location taken if at all possible Thanks so much~ Teena

Margaret and Ned have transcribed the Arms licenses granted to persons in Ireland since 1832,also Inquests for Counties and cities in Ireland 1841, the names can now be picked up by the website search engine,please remember work is going on updating the website,(just in case there are a couple of errors) Raymond http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com

The marriage certificate will give you Fathers of both the bride and groom Their address Their occupation The witness's which can very helpful as these are often siblings or relations Good luck with your search Patricia New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: nir-tyrone-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-tyrone-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Duffy Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:51 AM To: cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com; nir-tyrone@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIR-TYRONE] Marriage record query I have the marriage date and place for Daniel and Catherine Armstrong McKernan...through the efforts of one on this list...would I be more likely to receive information on their parents (ie their names) if I ordered the certificate from Bodoney Church (Plumbridge) or from the GRO? Thanks in advance for your replies. Joanne

Ha ha. I don't think that we need a new geocities. Rootsweb is our geocities! (but as I have never used geocities, perhaps I am being too simplistic in my ignorance). ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammy Mitchell" <ancestry@ripandrevmedia.ca> > Time for someone to open an new geocities I guess.. just like a large > company to come in and buy something and then ruin it. > Tammy >> --------------------------- >> ... Seen on another list: >> >> You may have heard that Geocities will be closing down later this >> year (2009).

The recent chat about geocities made me realize there's a free online resource I use from time to time which might be helpful to others on the list, although there is only one Irish database - Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958. The site also has a few English and Welsh records, as well as records from elsewhere in the world. At the following page, folks should use the clickable map to get to that part of the world where they're searching and then select a database to search. http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html# Europe, for example, will take you to links to search the Irish, English and Welsh databases. (Thank-ee Ray.) Loretta

Here is a web page that will assist anyone with questions on geocities. http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html Denis On May 28, 2009, at 8:49 PM, <pmunro@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > many people have their pages of gen info up in that network. also some > family trees and interactive sites are hosted there. > so someone will need to get them moved. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Loretta" <lynneage@house-of-lynn.com> > To: "'Ray'" <ray15@optusnet.com.au>; <CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:38 PM > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Geocities will be closing down later this year > (2009). > > >> Well, Ray, you and I are both in Oz. I've never used geocities >> either. >> In >> any case, it is a pity if a resource which appears to have helped >> some >> folks >> comes to an end. >> >> Loretta >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray >> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 08:34 PM >> To: CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Geocities will be closing down later this year >> (2009). >> >> >> Ha ha. I don't think that we need a new geocities. Rootsweb is our >> geocities! >> (but as I have never used geocities, perhaps I am being too >> simplistic in >> my >> >> ignorance). >> >> ray in oz >> >> >> >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > ~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

many people have their pages of gen info up in that network. also some family trees and interactive sites are hosted there. so someone will need to get them moved. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loretta" <lynneage@house-of-lynn.com> To: "'Ray'" <ray15@optusnet.com.au>; <CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Geocities will be closing down later this year (2009). > Well, Ray, you and I are both in Oz. I've never used geocities either. > In > any case, it is a pity if a resource which appears to have helped some > folks > comes to an end. > > Loretta > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 08:34 PM > To: CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Geocities will be closing down later this year > (2009). > > > Ha ha. I don't think that we need a new geocities. Rootsweb is our > geocities! > (but as I have never used geocities, perhaps I am being too simplistic in > my > > ignorance). > > ray in oz > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, Ray, you and I are both in Oz. I've never used geocities either. In any case, it is a pity if a resource which appears to have helped some folks comes to an end. Loretta -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 08:34 PM To: CoTyroneIreland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Geocities will be closing down later this year (2009). Ha ha. I don't think that we need a new geocities. Rootsweb is our geocities! (but as I have never used geocities, perhaps I am being too simplistic in my ignorance). ray in oz

There are programs to download web sites. I have done several of those where persons are deceased and am trying to get permission to publish publically like Rootsweb I have enough disk space to download some if you have some specific names Guess I asked for that I personally wont miss the Geocities advertising

We have been watching rumors about this for a few days. It now seems to have been confirmed so I'm passing the following message along: --------------------------- Seen on another list: You may have heard that Geocities will be closing down later this year (2009). There are many genealogy sites on Geocities, and sadly, many of these sites may be lost if the webmasters don't move the sites to a new location. Yahoo is not notifying anyone about this by e-mail and many webmasters have not updated their sites in years, so-- more likely than not--are not even aware the pages they have posted will be lost. You or someone you know may have genealogy information posted on a Geocities site. USGenWeb & Rootsweb also have had links to Geocities sites. Please help spread the word so genealogy websites won't be lost ------------------------ To climb up on my soapbox for a minute: This is just another example of the problem with the so called "free" genealogy sites. None of them are really free. Someone is paying for them and if it isn't you, either directly or by the access fee you pay, then you may loose access to it at any time without warning. ALWAYS keep this in mind when quoting a "free" site as a source of the data in your genealogy. OK, back on the ground now. :-) If any of you know of another list, or person, who might be interested in the above please consider being the "good Samaritan" and passing the news along Malcolm Archive CD Books Canada Inc. President: Malcolm Moody PO Box 11 Manotick Ontario, K4M 1A2 Canada. (613) 692-2667 WEB SITE: http://www.ArchiveCDBooks.ca

I have the marriage date and place for Daniel and Catherine Armstrong McKernan...through the efforts of one on this list...would I be more likely to receive information on their parents (ie their names) if I ordered the certificate from Bodoney Church (Plumbridge) or from the GRO? Thanks in advance for your replies. Joanne

Time for someone to open an new geocities I guess.. just like a large company to come in and buy something and then ruin it. Tammy Eileen L. Hamelin wrote: > We have been watching rumors about this for a few days. It now > seems to have been confirmed so I'm passing the following message along: > > --------------------------- > Seen on another list: > > You may have heard that Geocities will be closing down later this > year (2009). There are many genealogy sites on Geocities, and sadly, > many of these sites may be lost if the webmasters don't move the > sites to a new location. Yahoo is not notifying anyone about this by > e-mail and many webmasters have not updated their sites in years, so-- > more likely than not--are not even aware the pages they have posted > will be lost. > > You or someone you know may have genealogy information posted on a > Geocities site. USGenWeb & Rootsweb also have had links to Geocities > sites. Please help spread the word so genealogy websites won't be lost > ------------------------ > > To climb up on my soapbox for a minute: This is just another > example of the problem with the so called "free" genealogy sites. > None of them are really free. Someone is paying for them and if it > isn't you, either directly or by the access fee you pay, then you may > loose access to it at any time without warning. ALWAYS keep this in > mind when quoting a "free" site as a source of the data in your > genealogy. > > OK, back on the ground now. :-) > > If any of you know of another list, or person, who might be > interested in the above please consider being the "good Samaritan" > and passing the news along > > Malcolm > > Archive CD Books Canada Inc. > President: Malcolm Moody > PO Box 11 > Manotick > Ontario, K4M 1A2 > Canada. > (613) 692-2667 > WEB SITE: http://www.ArchiveCDBooks.ca > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you all for the replies and links. Perhaps I'd better state why I started down this track. Thomas FITZPATRICK b c1851, (my post from a few day's back has more details): http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CoTyroneIreland/2009-05/1243132697 emigrated to New Zealand in 1866, coming from Omar County, (sic) Tyrone. I'm assuming Omagh as a starting point. >From Griffith's (printed 1860) I have 1) Thomas, Landlord: EARL of BELMORE County TYRONE Barony OMAGH, EAST Union OMAGH Parish CLOGHERNY Townland LEGACURRY And Tithe Applotments (1826) 2) John, Legacurry, Clogherny. My Thomas' father's name is given as John. So from this information and what your replies have said this would be the RC parish of Beragh, Archdiocese of Armagh?? Can I tell from this what church Thomas may have attended? Thanks to all Bryan

No it's not impossible, difficult yes....there are 100's of Martins and Mullen/Mullans around....what religion were they?

Hierarchy!! county = <http://www.logainm.ie/?parentID=63177&typeID=B&placeID=100030>Tyrone, Barony = Omagh East, Civil Parish is Clogherny....... townland, town, post office etc = Seskinore so is there a R C church in the town of Seskinore?

Hello Bill. I tried to reply to you privately, but because your ISP is comcast, and it ALWAYS refuses messages from my aussie ISP, I am having to write it here: Thanks for the orienting. I certainly do need such assistance. And thanks for the lovely smiley which accompanied your note. The links are great. With gratitude. Ray in oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hazelton" <bhazelto@comcast.net> To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> ... The Co. Tyrone website for this mailing list will help orient you and Ray :-) Here is a map of the Civil Parishes: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/maps/parish.html The specific townlands in Clogherny Parish can be seen here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cotyroneireland/maps/clogherny_tl.html Today's maps show the townland as Legacurry Rd. Go to: http://www.multimap.com Use Postal Code: BT79 0QXThe nearest Catholic church appears to be: PARISH OF FINTONA (DONACAVEY), Diocese of Clogher http://www.mmdesignsgroup.co.uk/mmc/index.php Very Rev James Moore, PP, 25 Lisdergan Road, Fintona, Co. Tyrone BT78 2NS. Tel 028-82841907 Email: frj1m@hotmail.com

Several weeks ago with the help of Laurel and Clare I now have my Martin familys' townland and parish name...Coolkeeragh townland and Longfield east parish and siblings names,,Joseph, Michael, Catherine, Ellen and Ann ( This possibly being shortened from Roseanna ).All this from a bank record. I knew Joseph was born in Ireland, Nov. 25, 1836, died Jan 3,1899 in South Carolina,this from his obit.. Michael was born 1826 and came to U.S. in 1858 and died there in 1886. This from his death cert.. Nothing known of brother Charles nor sister Catherine. Don't know if they came to N.Y. or stayed in Ireland. Sister Ellen married James McKenney/McKenna and Ann(Roseanna) married John McKenney/McKenna. This from the death certs. of Ellens' daughter ELLEN and Ann' daughter ROSANNA.These two ladies having come to U.S. and lived with their uncle JOHN MARTIN ,....and died in N.Y. Contacted two researchers and both have said basically impossible because of the dates I am searching for. These being Thomas Martin died 1837-1838 ,this according to a bank record of one of their sons John who came to N.Y. in 1846 in which he also says," his mother is Rose Mullin who is still living in Coolkeeragh". I have found that apparently the parish of Longfield East and Longfield West has been absorbed and is now Langfield. I am at a loss as to what to do now. I don't know what church was theirs to check records from, I don't know birth/baptisimal/marriage or death dates for the sisters or Charles to search that route. I have come to a stand still searching for probates and death certs. in N.Y. Is this where I throw in the towel? Suggestions ,please! Thanks again Laurel and Clare . The info. you passed on means a great deal. Carolyn Cowart _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009

Hi Carolyn, I'm not sure I understood your note, esp. re which events were in Ireland and which in the US. But, according to William O'Kane, ed., HEATHER PEAT AND STONE: THE PARISHES OF CO. TYRONE (Dungannon: Irish World, 1992), the townland of Coolkeeragh is in the civil parish of Longfield East and the RC parish of Drumquin (aka Langfield). Note that LOngfield E and W are CIVIL parishes, and LAngfield is an RC parish. Grenham notes the following for dates and locations of surviving Langfield (RC) registers -- http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm? fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Tyrone&parish=Langfield&churchid=364 The burial records (1853-1856) are too late for your Thomas Martin, but possibly not for your Rose Mullin, last reported alive in 1846. If the two sisters you mention married in Ireland, the surviving RC marriage records (1846-1880) might help. Depending on the sisters' ages and marriage dates, the baptism registers (1846-1880) might be helpful for tracing their children, if they stayed in the same parish after marriage. If your folks weren't RC, your best bet for identifying the relevant church records is James Ryan, IRISH RECORDS: SOURCES FOR FAMILY AND LOCAL HISTORY (Dublin: Flyleaf Press, 1997) (pub'd by Ancestry in the US). Hope that helps. Claire K. On May 26, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Carolyn Cowart wrote: > > Several weeks ago with the help of Laurel and Clare I now have my > Martin familys' townland and parish name...Coolkeeragh townland and > Longfield east parish and siblings names,,Joseph, Michael, > Catherine, Ellen and Ann ( This possibly being shortened from > Roseanna ).All this from a bank record. I knew Joseph was born in > Ireland, Nov. 25, 1836, died Jan 3,1899 in South Carolina,this from > his obit.. Michael was born 1826 and came to U.S. in 1858 and died > there in 1886. This from his death cert.. Nothing known of brother > Charles nor sister Catherine. Don't know if they came to N.Y. or > stayed in Ireland. Sister Ellen married James McKenney/McKenna and > Ann(Roseanna) married John McKenney/McKenna. This from the death > certs. of Ellens' daughter ELLEN and Ann' daughter ROSANNA.These > two ladies having come to U.S. and lived with their uncle JOHN > MARTIN ,....and died in N.Y. Contacted two researchers and both > have said basically impossible because of the dates I am searching > for. These being Thomas Martin died 1837-1838 ,this according to a > bank record of one of their sons John who came to N.Y. in 1846 in > which he also says," his mother is Rose Mullin who is still living > in Coolkeeragh". I have found that apparently the parish of > Longfield East and Longfield West has been absorbed and is now > Langfield. I am at a loss as to what to do now. I don't know what > church was theirs to check records from, I don't know birth/ > baptisimal/marriage or death dates for the sisters or Charles to > search that route. I have come to a stand still searching for > probates and death certs. in N.Y. Is this where I throw in the > towel? Suggestions ,please! Thanks again Laurel and Clare . The > info. you passed on means a great deal. > Carolyn Cowart >

Hi Bryan, Go to http://www.armagharchdiocese.org/parishes and Click on Beragh. You will see photos of the three churches (i.e., church buildings) in this parish. The townland of Legacurry is next to Seskinore, so chances are that the FITZPATRICKs from Legacurry would have attended services there at St. Malachy's -- but it doesn't matter, from a research standpoint. All three churches are one parish, with one set of sacramental records, so all you need to know is that it's the RC parish of Beragh. Comparing the maps, Grenham seems to have this RC parish as Ballintacker, with info on what records are available where, here -- http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/ index.cfm? fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Tyrone&parish=Ballintacker&churchid= 186 So, yes, to answer your question, this would be Legacurry, in the RC parish of Beragh (maybe Ballintacker is an old name? does anyone know for sure?), Archdiocese of Armagh. Good luck at finding baptism and marriage records to prove you found the right family... ! Regards, Claire K. On May 26, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Bryan wrote: > ...Thomas FITZPATRICK b c1851, (my post from a few day's back has more > details): > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CoTyroneIreland/ > 2009-05/1243132697 > emigrated to New Zealand in 1866, coming from Omar County, (sic) > Tyrone. > I'm assuming Omagh as a starting point. >> From Griffith's (printed 1860) I have > 1) Thomas, Landlord: EARL of BELMORE County TYRONE Barony OMAGH, > EAST Union > OMAGH Parish CLOGHERNY Townland LEGACURRY > And Tithe Applotments (1826) > 2) John, Legacurry, Clogherny. > My Thomas' father's name is given as John. > > So from this information and what your replies have said this would > be the > RC parish of Beragh, Archdiocese of Armagh?? > Can I tell from this what church Thomas may have attended? > ...