Greeting all, tracking down a few names on the family tree; Nicholas Blancher, born about 1700 and Edward Blancher, born about 1723 they came to America in 1737 from Tyrone County. The family is believed to be Hugenots from France, the spelling of the name was changed to 'Blanchard' around 1750. Would like to hear from anyone with information or sujustions. Kindest Regards Capt Ron Blanchard Eddington, Maine, USA

I have not worked on McCoy for a very long time. In my case I have Mary Ann McCoy m Edward Jackson 29 Oct 1868 At the Bar Church. The McCoys were from Tyrone and the Jacksons from Fermanagh. Some of their children including my GM came to the us as well as 2 of Mary Ann McCoy's brothers. My information is at www.johnhogg.us John -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 2:48 AM To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] McCoy Hello Eddie. Have you searched in this list's own web-site yet? If not: the URL is shown below at the foot of your posting. A search there for McCoy and Camus gives TWO hits. One is from Jim Crabtree's wonderful transcriptions of Tithe and Griffiths indexes. This shows 2 McCoys in Griffiths, and NONE in the Tithe. However there is a McCay in the tithe, which MIGHT be the same lot. I noted that there are also McKay and McKee shown there too, which might also be the same family -- distantly perhaps. If you search on that site just for McCoy, you should find 12 hits, not necessarily limited to Camus parish. HTH: Ray (across the ditch) in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "McCoy Eddie" <mccoys@clear.net.nz> I have Just discovered that my McCoys came from the Parish of Camus in Tyrone, ... > Eddie McCoy mccoys @clear.net.nz > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello; I am reposting this message as I have not received an answer at all. My Name is Karen Carpenter. I am trying to find information on my family members: John Anderson - Son of Thomas Anderson and Rachel Donaldson( Born 10 April 1857 in Ireland. Left the Family and possibly died ant 1900- 1903 in Scotland. ) John Anderson Married Mary McIlroy - Daughter of John McIlroy and Margaret Anderson. ( Born 25 December 1860 in Ballindrum, Londonderry, Ireland and Died 30 December 1938 in Cardston, Alberta, Canada. ) John Anderson and Mary McIlroy had 7 Children : 1. ) Rachel Anderson Born 7 Jul 1883 in Cookstown, Tyrone County, Ireland. died 27 Nov. 1974 in Camrose, Alberta, Canada) 2. )Agnes Anderson ( Born 24 Feb 1885 in Cookstown, Tyrone County, Ireland. and Died in 1964 in Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.) 3. ) Mary Anderson { Known as Minnie} ( Born 29 Nov 1887 in Cookstown, Tyrone County, Ireland. Died 6 Dec 1921 in Camrose, Alberta, Canada.) 4. ) Thomas Anderson ( Born 29 Dec 1889 in Belfast, Ireland, Died 25 Dec 1890 Probably in Belfast, Ireland. 5.) Ellen Anderson { Known as Nellie} ( Born 28 Nov 1891, in Belfast, Antrim County, Ireland, and Died 20 Feb 1897 in Ireland . 6.) Lavinia Anderson { Known as Viney} ( Born 28 Nov 1893 in Belfast, Antrim, Ireland, and Died in 1986 in Canada.) 7.) Margaret Victoria Anderson { Known as Maggie } ( Born 10 Jul 1897 in Belfast, Antrim County, Ireland and died 16 Apr 1920 in Cardston, Alberta, Can) John ( Mary's Husband) Left the family before 1900 and left them basically starving. Mary and Her 5 remaining children all left Ireland for Canada at Separate times. John McIlroy and Margaret Anderson Were Married abt 1853 in Ireland. They Had 6 Children / Maybe 9. The Children I Have are : William Edward Mary Samuel Thomas Margaret* Thomas* Sarah* Lavinia The 3 with the Star may not be related to John and Margaret. All Of Margaret and John McIlroy's Children were born in Ballindrum, Londonderry, Ireland, Does anyone have any information on these families? Thank You All So Much For Your Time; Karen Carpenter

Hello Jim and all. I have just found this item below whilst going through a spam folder in my computer. Oh what marvellous little anecdotes you have provided in here, Jim! Thank you for them. I feel that I am learning a lot about the local culture, not only from the anecdotes themselves, but also from your own language usages etc. Marvellous! I am leaving Jim's message intact below, in case many others who have joined the list in the last 2 years might enjoy reading them too (without going to the archives to do so). Regards: Ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "jj.carroll" <jj.carroll@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:33 AM > In Sickness and Health > > > > Before 1948, when the free National Health Service was > introduced, medical help was only sought when absolutely necessary, mainly > because of the financial burden involved. There were also many sick people > who didn't want the neighbours to know they were sick enough to need a > doctor. People depended on local cures and the taking of herbs to survive > and only went to the doctor when death was imminent. Even today some > people have such good faith in 'the cure' that they are still reluctant to > accept medical help. > > > > I mind old Dr. Bradley coming from Fintona on a bike to my grandfather. > That was out Dromore Lower and it was a pound. He wasn't hard to pay, but > the pound was hard enough to come by. > > > > My brother died in 1923, when he was 21 years old, with a germ in the > blood, it's connected to consumption you know. He was in Omagh, Derry and > Belfast hospitals. They said it was bad teeth that poisoned the blood and > they told him if he had been smoking he wouldn't have taken pyorrhea of > the gum, as the smoke would have killed the germ. The smoke would keep the > blood from congealing. That was when I started to smoke and I smoked to > save my teeth for 60 years. > > Six years ago I was told, by my doctor, to stop smoking because of the > damage to my lungs! > > When my brother was ill, the doctor charged three guineas per visit and > the specialist's fees were five guineas. When he became ill we had six > cows and a couple of horses. When he was buried we jist had the wan cow. > > > > John C. got the 'Scarlet' and the major's wife used to come to the end of > the lane and shout at the top of her voice, "How's John today?" She was > scared to go any closer in case she got 'the scarlet.' > > > > Mickey B. had the 'flu and Kavanagh's cow broke out and went to Mickey > B.'s back garden. Packie came looking for her but wouldn't go into the wee > garden in case he got the flu. > > > > There was a very bad 'flu in 1918 and many people died from it. My mother > had it and Dr. Warnock, who was in Clogher that time, came to her. She had > eaten a raw onion the night before he came and he said, "That's what saved > your life." > > > > There was a cobbler lived up beside Bell's Cross and he had a daughter, > beautiful young girl. She took a pain in her stomach. The doctor came and > attended to here. He sent for the ambulance. I remember well the day it > came. It was Sunday morning and the ambulance was at the house when we > were going to mass. She died from burst appendix a few days later in Omagh > Hospital at the age of 17 years. > > > > When I was 18 or 19, my hands were all warts. Ah! Lord save us, my whole > hands were black. There was a fella used to ceili in our house and he > says, "You and me'll go for a run on Sunday." He took me to a well in > Aughantaine for three Sundays in succession. It was a Holy Well. I rubbed > the water on them and they disappeared. > > > > Leave a scarf outside on January 31st in honour of St. Brigid. It will > cure a sore throat. > > > > If you happen to be anaemic, or run down in any way, drop a raw egg into a > cup of tea, glass of milk or just a raw egg on its own. Let it slip down > your throat. > > > > For a bad cough or if you're inclined to be 'chesty.' Get that clove of > garlic. Eat it raw, cook it in soup, stew or use in salads. But get it > into the system. If you don't fancy the taste of it cut it in thin slices > and put them in the soles of you socks and it'll have the same > satisfactory results. Should you suffer from piles insert a clove of > garlic in the back passage. > > > > Wear red flannel to get rid of rheumatism. > Regards, > Jim Carroll

Jim Carroll, Were those your own memories or from a book. I really enjoyed reading it . Thank you and thank you to Ray for sending it again. Maxine At 02:01 AM 9/19/2009, you wrote: >You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the >CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive >these messages, please follow the instructions on >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Some Cures... from Jim Carroll 2 years ago! (Ray) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:16:04 +1000 >From: "Ray" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> >Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Some Cures... from Jim Carroll 2 years ago! >To: "COTYRONEIRELAND.com" <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <336D82688C724F16B7786E3940316F6D@linda> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Hello Jim and all. >I have just found this item below whilst going through a spam folder in my >computer. > >Oh what marvellous little anecdotes you have provided in here, Jim! Thank >you for them. I feel that I am learning a lot about the local culture, not >only from the anecdotes themselves, but also from your own language usages >etc. Marvellous! > >I am leaving Jim's message intact below, in case many others who have joined >the list in the last 2 years might enjoy reading them too (without going to >the archives to do so). > >Regards: Ray in oz > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jj.carroll" <jj.carroll@comcast.net> >Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:33 AM > > > > In Sickness and Health > > > > > > > > Before 1948, when the free National Health Service was > > introduced, medical help was only sought when absolutely necessary, mainly > > because of the financial burden involved. There were also many sick people > > who didn't want the neighbours to know they were sick enough to need a > > doctor. People depended on local cures and the taking of herbs to survive > > and only went to the doctor when death was imminent. Even today some > > people have such good faith in 'the cure' that they are still reluctant to > > accept medical help. > > > > > > > > I mind old Dr. Bradley coming from Fintona on a bike to my grandfather. > > That was out Dromore Lower and it was a pound. He wasn't hard to pay, but > > the pound was hard enough to come by. > > > > > > > > My brother died in 1923, when he was 21 years old, with a germ in the > > blood, it's connected to consumption you know. He was in Omagh, Derry and > > Belfast hospitals. They said it was bad teeth that poisoned the blood and > > they told him if he had been smoking he wouldn't have taken pyorrhea of > > the gum, as the smoke would have killed the germ. The smoke would keep the > > blood from congealing. That was when I started to smoke and I smoked to > > save my teeth for 60 years. > > > > Six years ago I was told, by my doctor, to stop smoking because of the > > damage to my lungs! > > > > When my brother was ill, the doctor charged three guineas per visit and > > the specialist's fees were five guineas. When he became ill we had six > > cows and a couple of horses. When he was buried we jist had the wan cow. > > > > > > > > John C. got the 'Scarlet' and the major's wife used to come to the end of > > the lane and shout at the top of her voice, "How's John today?" She was > > scared to go any closer in case she got 'the scarlet.' > > > > > > > > Mickey B. had the 'flu and Kavanagh's cow broke out and went to Mickey > > B.'s back garden. Packie came looking for her but wouldn't go into the wee > > garden in case he got the flu. > > > > > > > > There was a very bad 'flu in 1918 and many people died from it. My mother > > had it and Dr. Warnock, who was in Clogher that time, came to her. She had > > eaten a raw onion the night before he came and he said, "That's what saved > > your life." > > > > > > > > There was a cobbler lived up beside Bell's Cross and he had a daughter, > > beautiful young girl. She took a pain in her stomach. The doctor came and > > attended to here. He sent for the ambulance. I remember well the day it > > came. It was Sunday morning and the ambulance was at the house when we > > were going to mass. She died from burst appendix a few days later in Omagh > > Hospital at the age of 17 years. > > > > > > > > When I was 18 or 19, my hands were all warts. Ah! Lord save us, my whole > > hands were black. There was a fella used to ceili in our house and he > > says, "You and me'll go for a run on Sunday." He took me to a well in > > Aughantaine for three Sundays in succession. It was a Holy Well. I rubbed > > the water on them and they disappeared. > > > > > > > > Leave a scarf outside on January 31st in honour of St. Brigid. It will > > cure a sore throat. > > > > > > > > If you happen to be anaemic, or run down in any way, drop a raw egg into a > > cup of tea, glass of milk or just a raw egg on its own. Let it slip down > > your throat. > > > > > > > > For a bad cough or if you're inclined to be 'chesty.' Get that clove of > > garlic. Eat it raw, cook it in soup, stew or use in salads. But get it > > into the system. If you don't fancy the taste of it cut it in thin slices > > and put them in the soles of you socks and it'll have the same > > satisfactory results. Should you suffer from piles insert a clove of > > garlic in the back passage. > > > > > > > > Wear red flannel to get rid of rheumatism. > > > Regards, > > Jim Carroll > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to >COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an email >to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and >the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 194 >*********************************************** > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.107/2382 - Release Date: >09/19/09 06:03:00

Hello List, I just wanted to say that I loved reading that email that Jim had sent two years ago. I laughed so HARD! But it was true of the times! Keep them coming Jim :) Cheryl

Has anyone on this list had access to the following book and found it useful? Ireland Co. Tyrone Genealogy & Family History, By Michael C. O'Laughlin

http://streetdirectories.proni.gov.uk/aetopia/WebObjects/StreetDirectories.woa/2/wo/2JhqbbDQosB1678XG0chFw/2.0.0.1.5 This is a long URL - if it doesn't work for you go to www.proni.gov.uk , click on Search the archives on the left and then Street Directories. Rachel

Just the way things are! Today I received photocopies of 2 pages from Rockcurry Church Register which has been "missing" for years......oh how I'd love to find who has that!! I'm working on a few contacts to see if I can find out who has these registers and if I got them I'd transcribe them for "freepages" etc...not hog them! E Macklin wrote: > OK ... why then would it not dawn on these folks to turn these > registers over > to someone like the Ulster Historical Foundation, or even have the UHF > go looking > for these people as I would presume then that this is not an isolated > occurrence? > > Eric > > From: "Dave Hall" <hallmark1@utvinternet.com> > To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 1:25 PM > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newtownstwart Town Archives - Secretary C of I > > > Oh that would be TOO easy.....Many parish registers are "held locally" > which means some member of the congregation has them in their house, so > you must find out who has them, where they live then try and get to see > them if the person has time to even show them! > > Was talking to someone recently in Co Monaghan who mentioned an elderly > woman who used to have the registers in her home for a now closed > church, she died, the children have neither the time or interest in them > and they are now stored in a box in the attic..probably never to see the > light of day ever again. > > > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090906-1, 06/09/2009 > Tested on: 07/09/2009 16:39:05 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > >

Hello John. I just received your 2nd personal reply to me; and in writing back to acknowledge it, I was again blocked by comcast. grrrr... Here is the message on the blocked notification: " The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -- jfpolk@comcast.net> (reason: 554 IMTA25.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net comcast 211.29.132.251 Comcast block f) " So PERHAPS after all, this is indeed why you are not hearing back from some of your Irish correspondents. Apologies again to the list. I try to NOT make a habit of this. All the best: ray in oz.

Wonderful! Bill. Good luck with it. I had a private note this morning from a fellow oz lister, who kindly stated that she has a photo of the library. I replied that it was YOU who was the original poster. I am hoping that she will write directly to you -- maybe tomorrow. (It is father's day over here today, so she may be preoccupied with that sort of thing today). I could not forward it to you myself, because your ISP: comcast always rejects any incoming mail from my ISP -- hence why I am replying publicly here, and not privately. (With apologies to listers who are offended, but that is why I am doing so.) Pleased to have helped a little. Good luck with it all. Ray in oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hazelton" <bhazelto@comcast.net> > Hi Ray > > I appreciate your response. ... For someone who has no knowledge :), I have 2 good leads! > > Thanks > Bill

Hi Bill, I think you may find that the Wesleyan Methodist records are probably held by the Wesleyan Historical Society. I have had help from them when I went to view their archives record books at: EDGEHILL THEOLOGICAL COLLEGE EDGEHILL College, 9 Lennoxvale, BELFAST BT9 5BY Tel: (028) 9066 5870 To the best of my knowledge very few of their records are digitised. If you Google "Wesleyan Historical Society" you will get lots of other addresses and it's possible that there may be a source closer to you that can help. However, since they are paper copies that are held by WHS it seems unlikely that the other addresses will have the records you are looking for. Sorry I can't be more helpful, Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hazelton" <bhazelto@comcast.net> To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newtownstwart Town Archives - Existance? (Robert) > Hi Robert > > A church baptism was also my original thinking and assumed my Hazeltons > were > COI. They where Anglican in Digby, Nova Scotia. > > I visited the records office of the Ardstraw Church of Ireland in > Newtownstewart. The secretary impressed me when she pointed out that she > had > a rolodex index of all records and especially impressed when I told her I > was looking for the baptism of William Hazleton in 1841 and with a smug > look > on her face, she immediately said he is not in there. She then handed me a > letter on her desk from a relative, I had not heard of before, requesting > the same information. > > I also tracked down the Presbyterian records in a private home but struck > out again. > > I did not locate the Wesleyan Methodist records in Newtownstewart. Since > Digby did not have a Methodist church until later and some descendents > joined the church, it is a possibility. Some Killyman Hazeltons were > Wesleyan Methodist ministers and even traveled the circuit serving the > area, > this is a possibility. > > Any idea where the Wesleyan Methodist records may be found? > > You are probably correct that Newtownstewart did not have an official > archive. However, a local resident that I have lost contact with indicated > that all the town records were being stored in the nearby town of Grange. > Where? Someone's garage? :) > > Thanks Robert, I always appreciate your contributions. > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:36:20 +0000 > From: Ulster Ancestry <ulsterancestry@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newtownstwart Town Archives - Existance? > Location? > To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY109-W4369F49552EE63174E2DB0C3ED0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hello Bill, > > > > Newtownstewart is a "town" of about 4 streets. It may have a small local > library but it does not have an archive . > > > > George Hazelton has to be refering to a Church register of baptism. That > would have been the most likely {and possibly only} source of his record > of > "birth" > > > > best regards and good hunting. > > Robert > > www.ulsterancestry.com > > > > >> > >> After researching for years and having yet to link my Hazelton line with > the >> likely Killyman Hazeltons, I am retracing my research. >> >> According to the book "A GENEALOGY OF Hazelton and Stygles Families", >> Gateway Press,Inc. Baltimore,MD,USA by George F. Hazelton, he refers to >> my >> Great-Grandfather's birth as follows: >> >> " ...discovery in the archives of the town of Newtownstewart, County > Tyrone >> of the record of the 1841 birth of William, son of James and Elizabeth." >> >> He later gives his birth as 22 July 1841. >> >> While the family may have been transient on their way to Londonderry for >> eventual emigration to Nova Scotia (mid 1840's), he claims their daughter >> Margaret was also born there in 1844. >> >> My questions are: >> >> 1. Why would a birth be recorded in a town archive in the 1840's? >> 2. Was this common? >> 3. Did/Does a Newtownstewart town archive exist? >> 4. If so, where might it be? >> 5 How would I access it? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions or comments. >> >> Bill Hazelton >> Memphis >> >> > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh that would be TOO easy.....Many parish registers are "held locally" which means some member of the congregation has them in their house, so you must find out who has them, where they live then try and get to see them if the person has time to even show them! Was talking to someone recently in Co Monaghan who mentioned an elderly woman who used to have the registers in her home for a now closed church, she died, the children have neither the time or interest in them and they are now stored in a box in the attic..probably never to see the light of day ever again. E Macklin wrote: > This is an interesting thread that Dave Hal is dealing with, so I'd like to > ask him and the > list if there is any way I could contact this "secretary at the office of > the Church of > Ireland" about another Anglican. There would appear to so few that she is > aware of > most of the surnames without even looking at the microfiche ... how cool is > that for > once. > > Eric Macklin > Toronto > > Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:17 AM > Subject: C of I Records - Ardstraw > > > I visited the records office of the Ardstraw Church of Ireland in > Newtownstewart. The secretary impressed me when she pointed out that she had > a rolodex index of all records. > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090906-1, 06/09/2009 > Tested on: 06/09/2009 18:12:06 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > >

4th Jan 1841 Robert Hazelton, Carnteel, Aughnacloy, Co. Tyrone married Jane Hackett, in Errigal Trough 20th May 1864 Robert Jackson son, Henry Jackson, Killycarran married Anne Hazleton daug, Robert Hazelton, Fymore, Co Tyrone in E Trough. Dave Hall wrote: > "the town records were being stored in the nearby town of Grange. > Where? Someone's garage?" > > > ANSWER; Quite possibly!! > > > > Bill Hazelton wrote: >> Hi Robert >> >> A church baptism was also my original thinking and assumed my Hazeltons were >> COI. They where Anglican in Digby, Nova Scotia. >> >> I visited the records office of the Ardstraw Church of Ireland in >> Newtownstewart. The secretary impressed me when she pointed out that she had >> a rolodex index of all records and especially impressed when I told her I >> was looking for the baptism of William Hazleton in 1841 and with a smug look >> on her face, she immediately said he is not in there. She then handed me a >> letter on her desk from a relative, I had not heard of before, requesting >> the same information. >> >> I also tracked down the Presbyterian records in a private home but struck >> out again. >> >> I did not locate the Wesleyan Methodist records in Newtownstewart. Since >> Digby did not have a Methodist church until later and some descendents >> joined the church, it is a possibility. Some Killyman Hazeltons were >> Wesleyan Methodist ministers and even traveled the circuit serving the area, >> this is a possibility. >> >> Any idea where the Wesleyan Methodist records may be found? >> >> You are probably correct that Newtownstewart did not have an official >> archive. However, a local resident that I have lost contact with indicated >> that all the town records were being stored in the nearby town of Grange. >> Where? Someone's garage? :) >> >> Thanks Robert, I always appreciate your contributions. >> >> Bill >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:36:20 +0000 >> From: Ulster Ancestry <ulsterancestry@hotmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newtownstwart Town Archives - Existance? >> Location? >> To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <BAY109-W4369F49552EE63174E2DB0C3ED0@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> >> Hello Bill, >> >> >> >> Newtownstewart is a "town" of about 4 streets. It may have a small local >> library but it does not have an archive . >> >> >> >> George Hazelton has to be refering to a Church register of baptism. That >> would have been the most likely {and possibly only} source of his record of >> "birth" >> >> >> >> best regards and good hunting. >> >> Robert >> >> www.ulsterancestry.com >> >> >> >> >> >>> After researching for years and having yet to link my Hazelton line with >>> >> the >> >>> likely Killyman Hazeltons, I am retracing my research. >>> >>> According to the book "A GENEALOGY OF Hazelton and Stygles Families", >>> Gateway Press,Inc. Baltimore,MD,USA by George F. Hazelton, he refers to my >>> Great-Grandfather's birth as follows: >>> >>> " ...discovery in the archives of the town of Newtownstewart, County >>> >> Tyrone >> >>> of the record of the 1841 birth of William, son of James and Elizabeth." >>> >>> He later gives his birth as 22 July 1841. >>> >>> While the family may have been transient on their way to Londonderry for >>> eventual emigration to Nova Scotia (mid 1840's), he claims their daughter >>> Margaret was also born there in 1844. >>> >>> My questions are: >>> >>> 1. Why would a birth be recorded in a town archive in the 1840's? >>> 2. Was this common? >>> 3. Did/Does a Newtownstewart town archive exist? >>> 4. If so, where might it be? >>> 5 How would I access it? >>> >>> Thanks for any suggestions or comments. >>> >>> Bill Hazelton >>> Memphis >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------- >> Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090905-0, 05/09/2009 >> Tested on: 06/09/2009 16:13:49 >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >>

"the town records were being stored in the nearby town of Grange. Where? Someone's garage?" ANSWER; Quite possibly!! Bill Hazelton wrote: > Hi Robert > > A church baptism was also my original thinking and assumed my Hazeltons were > COI. They where Anglican in Digby, Nova Scotia. > > I visited the records office of the Ardstraw Church of Ireland in > Newtownstewart. The secretary impressed me when she pointed out that she had > a rolodex index of all records and especially impressed when I told her I > was looking for the baptism of William Hazleton in 1841 and with a smug look > on her face, she immediately said he is not in there. She then handed me a > letter on her desk from a relative, I had not heard of before, requesting > the same information. > > I also tracked down the Presbyterian records in a private home but struck > out again. > > I did not locate the Wesleyan Methodist records in Newtownstewart. Since > Digby did not have a Methodist church until later and some descendents > joined the church, it is a possibility. Some Killyman Hazeltons were > Wesleyan Methodist ministers and even traveled the circuit serving the area, > this is a possibility. > > Any idea where the Wesleyan Methodist records may be found? > > You are probably correct that Newtownstewart did not have an official > archive. However, a local resident that I have lost contact with indicated > that all the town records were being stored in the nearby town of Grange. > Where? Someone's garage? :) > > Thanks Robert, I always appreciate your contributions. > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:36:20 +0000 > From: Ulster Ancestry <ulsterancestry@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newtownstwart Town Archives - Existance? > Location? > To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BAY109-W4369F49552EE63174E2DB0C3ED0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Hello Bill, > > > > Newtownstewart is a "town" of about 4 streets. It may have a small local > library but it does not have an archive . > > > > George Hazelton has to be refering to a Church register of baptism. That > would have been the most likely {and possibly only} source of his record of > "birth" > > > > best regards and good hunting. > > Robert > > www.ulsterancestry.com > > > > > >> After researching for years and having yet to link my Hazelton line with >> > the > >> likely Killyman Hazeltons, I am retracing my research. >> >> According to the book "A GENEALOGY OF Hazelton and Stygles Families", >> Gateway Press,Inc. Baltimore,MD,USA by George F. Hazelton, he refers to my >> Great-Grandfather's birth as follows: >> >> " ...discovery in the archives of the town of Newtownstewart, County >> > Tyrone > >> of the record of the 1841 birth of William, son of James and Elizabeth." >> >> He later gives his birth as 22 July 1841. >> >> While the family may have been transient on their way to Londonderry for >> eventual emigration to Nova Scotia (mid 1840's), he claims their daughter >> Margaret was also born there in 1844. >> >> My questions are: >> >> 1. Why would a birth be recorded in a town archive in the 1840's? >> 2. Was this common? >> 3. Did/Does a Newtownstewart town archive exist? >> 4. If so, where might it be? >> 5 How would I access it? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions or comments. >> >> Bill Hazelton >> Memphis >> >> >> > > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090905-0, 05/09/2009 > Tested on: 06/09/2009 16:13:49 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > >

This is an interesting thread that Dave Hal is dealing with, so I'd like to ask him and the list if there is any way I could contact this "secretary at the office of the Church of Ireland" about another Anglican. There would appear to so few that she is aware of most of the surnames without even looking at the microfiche ... how cool is that for once. Eric Macklin Toronto Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 11:17 AM Subject: C of I Records - Ardstraw I visited the records office of the Ardstraw Church of Ireland in Newtownstewart. The secretary impressed me when she pointed out that she had a rolodex index of all records.

Hi Robert A church baptism was also my original thinking and assumed my Hazeltons were COI. They where Anglican in Digby, Nova Scotia. I visited the records office of the Ardstraw Church of Ireland in Newtownstewart. The secretary impressed me when she pointed out that she had a rolodex index of all records and especially impressed when I told her I was looking for the baptism of William Hazleton in 1841 and with a smug look on her face, she immediately said he is not in there. She then handed me a letter on her desk from a relative, I had not heard of before, requesting the same information. I also tracked down the Presbyterian records in a private home but struck out again. I did not locate the Wesleyan Methodist records in Newtownstewart. Since Digby did not have a Methodist church until later and some descendents joined the church, it is a possibility. Some Killyman Hazeltons were Wesleyan Methodist ministers and even traveled the circuit serving the area, this is a possibility. Any idea where the Wesleyan Methodist records may be found? You are probably correct that Newtownstewart did not have an official archive. However, a local resident that I have lost contact with indicated that all the town records were being stored in the nearby town of Grange. Where? Someone's garage? :) Thanks Robert, I always appreciate your contributions. Bill -----Original Message----- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:36:20 +0000 From: Ulster Ancestry <ulsterancestry@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newtownstwart Town Archives - Existance? Location? To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY109-W4369F49552EE63174E2DB0C3ED0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Bill, Newtownstewart is a "town" of about 4 streets. It may have a small local library but it does not have an archive . George Hazelton has to be refering to a Church register of baptism. That would have been the most likely {and possibly only} source of his record of "birth" best regards and good hunting. Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > > > After researching for years and having yet to link my Hazelton line with the > likely Killyman Hazeltons, I am retracing my research. > > According to the book "A GENEALOGY OF Hazelton and Stygles Families", > Gateway Press,Inc. Baltimore,MD,USA by George F. Hazelton, he refers to my > Great-Grandfather's birth as follows: > > " ...discovery in the archives of the town of Newtownstewart, County Tyrone > of the record of the 1841 birth of William, son of James and Elizabeth." > > He later gives his birth as 22 July 1841. > > While the family may have been transient on their way to Londonderry for > eventual emigration to Nova Scotia (mid 1840's), he claims their daughter > Margaret was also born there in 1844. > > My questions are: > > 1. Why would a birth be recorded in a town archive in the 1840's? > 2. Was this common? > 3. Did/Does a Newtownstewart town archive exist? > 4. If so, where might it be? > 5 How would I access it? > > Thanks for any suggestions or comments. > > Bill Hazelton > Memphis > >

Hi Ray I appreciate your response. I see from exploring your link that the library is on Main St, I didn't see it on my trip in 2002. Additionally, the library became part of the Northern Ireland Library system in April and I could search their catalogue online. While I didn't find a reference to a town archive, I did find " Ardstraw (newtownstewart) historical survey of a Parish 1600-1900" and elsewhere A person on Pat Connors site that does look ups. I'll also email the library and see what happens. For someone who has no knowledge :), I have 2 good leads! Thanks Bill -Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:54:46 +1000 From: "Ray" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Newtownstwart Town Archives - Existance? Location? To: <cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E24AFE6ACA4A40F0BFAFBED33938D7ED@linda> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Bill. Sadly, I do not have any knowledge to be able to answer any of your questions. Instead, I offer these few thoughts. 1. I googled for Newtownstewart archives 2. Lots of hits. 3. One of them led me to this URL: http://www.welbni.org/ 4. On the bottom left-hand corner is an e-mail address. 5. Try writing to ask them. Now for explanation. It seems that this web-page is for both school education and ALSO LIBRARY purposes, but I may have misunderstood them. e-mail and ask them anyway. Next thought: On the Fermanagh lists we used to have a most wonderful local council employee from the Town Hall at Enniskillen, named Frank(ie) ROOFE. He had a LOT of local Fermanagh records there at the Town Hall. I don't know how far back they went though. So my thought is that Perhaps in Newtownstewart itself, or perhaps in Omagh, or maybe in Strabane -- sorry to not know such things -- there might be one or more of the following which might be able to help you: a: a Town Hall with similar archives. b: a town/city Library with a knowledgeable and interested Local Studies Librarian. c: Local Archives held maybe in a local library, etc. Perhaps you might try googling for any of the above? Sorry to be so vague, but hope that you might be able to derive something helpful from it. Kind regards: Ray in oz.

I've visited Newtownstewart a couple of times - it has a nice small library with local records and a friendly librarian - at least it did in 2003. I was there again in 2008 but didn't visit the library. I found this email address: Newtownstewart.library@ni-libraries.net Sara Mason > Newtownstewart is a "town" of about 4 streets. It may have a small > local library but it does not have an archive . > ... Robert ... www.ulsterancestry.com >

WOW!!! Robbie: thank you for this observation. For some reason, whenever I have encountered the name, I have imagined a large town, if not a small city. Gee: only 4 streets! phew. This is why we need your local 'on-the-ground' knowledge. Regards: Ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ulster Ancestry" <ulsterancestry@hotmail.com> > Newtownstewart is a "town" of about 4 streets. It may have a small local > library but it does not have an archive . > George Hazelton has to be refering to a Church register of baptism. That would have been the most likely {and possibly only} source of his record of "birth" ... Robert ... www.ulsterancestry.com