Hi again Joan. Glad that you found my thought to be helpful. Another one now: I think that you will find that most of the records which ancestry have available, will also be available for you to view the original records on microfilm at your local Mormon/Latter-Day-Saints FHC (family history centre). Others on here are VERY experienced and expert at describing how to find and to use those records, so I will leave it to them to explain that side of it to you. (another hint everyone! ha ha). But suffice it to say that the LDS holdings are all available for you to find on their library catalogue online. This will probably be accessed from www.familysearch.org BUT I may be wrong on this. So over to the experts for you. Cheers: Ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Ray, ... Your suggestion of looking at the other records in the same time period is very good. It's an Ancestry.com record. When it was found for me, the actual image was unavailable. So all I have is a transcription. However I have noticed that sometimes when I check a day or two later, the image is there. If I can find the image, there are usually 3-6 marriages per page on the register. ...

Hello Joan. Referring to the part of your posting which I have left attached below --- if you are able to try to look at other marriages from that same marriage REGISTER at around the same time-frame (meaning that hopefully the entries will all be by the SAME minister/priest) you might be able to discern whether he generally entered the mother by her MARRIED surname; or whether he usually did so by her MAIDEN surname. If the former: then yes, you are no further advanced. BUT if the latter: then it MIGHT indicate to you that Sarah's maiden surname was also CONNOLLY. Hoping that you can follow my meaning. Good luck wishes continuing. Ray in oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> ... Ancestry.com I use it at the library and have searched for James but haven't found him. I guess all you have is his marriage register? I have that too. I notice James's parents are listed as Arthur Connolly and Sarah Connolly on that. Darn.

Hi all. You have been so helpful to me that I wish to offer something back. I have a one year subscription to the New England Historic Genealogical Society which will expire in December. Here is a link to their holdings: http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/services/default.asp I am most familiar with the Mass Vital Statistics from 1841-1910 (and some records to 1915). With that database I can download an image of the register and send it to you via email. You can view it with Mr. Sid, a free plug in available on line. If you have any ancestors in Mass, please try to find them here: http://www.sec.state.ma.us/vitalrecordssearch/VitalRecordsSearch.aspx Then send me what you found along with anything you have about the individual. I'll try to find them for you. If your ancestor is in another area than Mass, still send me everything you have and I'll search. I'm not as familiar with the other databases, but I can learn. I hope I can help some of you. Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

Ray, It's funny that you should mention the Irish Naming Pattern and then have it bite me in the face!! I have been utilizing it. The children of Arthur and Sarah seem to follow the pattern for the most part which I thought may/may not give me the parents of Arthur and Sarah. But, I neglected to recognize that, of course, it means there probably is another Arthur Connolly and also probably another Sarah McLaughlin too. Oh dear.... Thanks for pointing it out though. It is very useful info. Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

Hi Joan I too have an Arthur Connelly who married Sarah ? I have James Conelly as their son born 1838 Tyrone, Ireland, he married Margaret Dunbar born 1838 Erin Twp., Eramosa Ontario Canada Marilyn Do you think there is any chance we are looking at the same family??? [CoTyIre] Baptism details: Mary Conolly 1855 I purchased this record from the Irish Family History Foundation but I don't think she is my ancestor. I'm posting it in case she is yours! I have Arthur Connolly's wife as Sarah McLaughlin, but then again, maybe Arthur remarried??? Church Baptism record for Mary Conolly Name: Mary Connolly Date of Baptism/birth” 25/07/1855 Parish/District: Clonallon Gender: Female County: Down Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Arthur Connolly Mother: Rose Ryan Sponsors: Rev. A. Simpson, Edward Ryan and Catherine Ryan Joan

Ray, Your suggestion of looking at the other records in the same time period is very good. It's an Ancestry.com record. When it was found for me, the actual image was unavailable. So all I have is a transcription. However I have noticed that sometimes when I check a day or two later, the image is there. If I can find the image, there are usually 3-6 marriages per page on the register. Thanks, Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

Ka-Ching!! Another 5 Euros for a wrong record. Oh well - again I'm posting it here in case she is your ancestor. I'm a bit confused however. It appears that there must have been two Arthur Connollys in Cty Tyrone at the same time. From what I hear Arthur is an unusual name for this place and time. So I'm surprised to find two of them. You don't suppose that an error was made in the name of the mother on the record do you? Have you guys found errors in these records before? I recently posted another baptism, Mary Connolly, with the same parents, Arthur and Rose. She was baptised 25 Jul 1855. I have my Arthur and Sarah in Canada on the 1871 census with a Mary who was born in Ireland. Her age is listed as 12 which puts her birth at 1859. I know - it's a stretch to think that Mary born in 1855 is the same Mary who was in Canada in 1871. But what do you think? Here's the wrong record for anyone who wants it: Judith Connolly Date of birth/baptism: 11/11/1845 District: Donaghmore County: Tyrone Parents: Arthur Connolly and Rose Connolly Sponsors: Arthur (no last name given) and Catherine Dyans Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

Hi Marilyn, Well, I think we are talking about the same family. I have a cousin with Ancestry.com who helped me with this line months ago. She is an excellent genealogist and was collecting info about the family for me. She sent me census data, marriage records and some word documents that she created. Then I put it aside and worked on another family. I recently picked up the Connollys again and re-read her notes. She had told me that James is in the family. But as I look over the data I don't see any documentation of that. Unfortunately right now she is involved in a personal project and I can't ask her to look through all her files to find the proof that James is part of the family. I'm sure she had something or she would not just pull that name (and birthdate) out of her hat. So how about if you and I work on this together? Do you have Ancestry.com? I use it at the library and have searched for James but haven't found him. I guess all you have is his marriage register? I have that too. I notice James's parents are listed as Arthur Connolly and Sarah Connolly on that. Darn. Here's something I haven't tried yet. (I hope you have Ancestry....). Is there a way to search the Ontario records for another couple named Arthur Connolly and Sarah anything? To see if Arthur and Sarah are the only ones? If there is another Arthur Connolly with a wife named Sarah then it causes some doubts. Since all of their children were born in Ireland I would guess this would involve searching for the parents in marriage records. Can that be done? I have Arthur and Sarah on the 1871 census, but James is not with them. He was married by then. How can we link James to his parents Arthur and Sarah McLoughlin? Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada ________________________________ From: Marilyn Jones <marilyn013@sympatico.ca> To: acadianjoan@yahoo.com; cotyroneireland@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 5:05:45 PM Subject: RE: [CoTyIre] Baptism details: Mary Conolly 1855 Hi Joan I too have an Arthur Connelly who married Sarah ? I have James Conelly as their son born 1838 Tyrone, Ireland, he married Margaret Dunbar born 1838 Erin Twp., Eramosa Ontario Canada Marilyn Do you think there is any chance we are looking at the same family??? [CoTyIre] Baptism details: Mary Conolly 1855 I purchased this record from the Irish Family History Foundation but I don't think she is my ancestor. I'm posting it in case she is yours! I have Arthur Connolly's wife as Sarah McLaughlin, but then again, maybe Arthur remarried??? Church Baptism record for Mary Conolly Name: Mary Connolly Date of Baptism/birth” 25/07/1855 Parish/District: Clonallon Gender: Female County: Down Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Arthur Connolly Mother: Rose Ryan Sponsors: Rev. A. Simpson, Edward Ryan and Catherine Ryan Joan

Just purchased another record that I don't think is a family member. So I'll share the data with you and hopefully someone can use it. James Connolly Date of birth: 27/07/1834 Address: Shitrim? Parish: Tynan Gender: Unknown County: Armagh Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Arthur Connolly Mother: Isabella Clark Sponsors: James Connolly and Mary McKenna Note: No date of baptism given (est date) Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

I am posting the baptism details for two of the children of Arthur Connolly and Sarah McLaughlin. Thank you to Laurel for all her help and for generously purchasing one record for me. Genealogists are such nice people aren't they? Church Baptism Record Name: Sarah Connoly Date of baptism/birth: 10/08/1845 Address: Ballynatubbrit District: KillyClogher Gender: Female County: Co. Tyrone Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Arthur Connoly Mother: Sarah McLaughlin Sponsers: Luke Connolly and Mary Anderson Church Baptism Record Name: Arthur Connolly Date of Baptism / Birth: 01/03/1850 Address: Ballinatubbrit Parish / District: KILLYCLOGHER Gender: Male County Co. Tyrone Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Arthur Connolly Mother: Sarah McLaughlin Informant 1: William Morris Informant 2: Catherine Burke If you have any more info about this family, please post and/or contact me. Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

I purchased this record from the Irish Family History Foundation but I don't think she is my ancestor. I'm posting it in case she is yours! I have Arthur Connolly's wife as Sarah McLaughlin, but then again, maybe Arthur remarried??? Church Baptism record for Mary Conolly Name: Mary Connolly Date of Baptism/birth” 25/07/1855 Parish/District: Clonallon Gender: Female County: Down Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Arthur Connolly Mother: Rose Ryan Sponsors: Rev. A. Simpson, Edward Ryan and Catherine Ryan Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

Thank you for taking the time to look for Arthur Connolly. I think I am very lucky that he is named Arthur as I also believe it is an unusual name. Hopefully it will make the searching easier. I have to wonder if it means he (or his ancestors) came from yet another country. I followed the link in your email and see that you are a research organization. I haven't completely finished exploring your site but wonder if the Tithe book you referred to is one of the no charge resources? If so, can you please direct me to it on your site? Finding Arthur living in County Tyrone in 1826 is very plausible. Regards, Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

A couple of days ago I posted a query about Arthur Connolly and Sarah McLaughlin/McLoughlin. They were both born about 1811 in County Tyrone. They married in Ireland. I have positively identified 5 of their children who were also born in Ireland, 3 definitely in County Tyrone. Arthur, Sarah and their children moved to Ontario Canada about 1864-1866. Their positively identified children are: James (b. 1838), Margaret Anne (b. 1845), John (b. 1842), Sarah J (probably Jane b. 1850) and Arthur (b. 1852). Denis from this list kindly replied to me with possible info about Sarah McLaughlin/McLoughlin. With his permission, I will post what he said for your future reference and also in case any of you have any more info on this family. Denis has info about a William Loughlin/Laghlin/McLaughlin/Laughlin who was born in 1808 and died 1878 in Cty Tyrone. He married Jane Y. Frazer. They had 12 children. 5 of those children had the same names as the positively identified children of my Sarah McLaughlin, another is the same name as Sarah’s 6th possible child. Denis has theorized that William may be a sibling to my Sarah. Denis has also found info in a genealogy book about the Miller family which he has not verified. This book has info about a James Laughlin (b. 1808) a surgeon who was the son of James Laughlin (b. 1763) who married a Ballentine. It is possible that James (b. 1808) is a sibling to my Sarah. That’s where we are at the moment with the McLaughline line. Any comments/ corrections would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

Hello again Joan. It is nice to read that others are also sending you information. What a pity though that they are doing it privately and not sharing it with the list, as we all pick up little snippets from such postings. (n.b.: If one hits REPLY TO ALL in response to a posting on this list, their message will go to the list as well as to the questioner/lister. Conversely, merely hitting on REPLY will send it back as a private message to that enquirer.) Now, Joan, you asked if any of those resources which Sean Rooney mentioned in his listings are online. My basic answer is that GENERALLY they are NOT online. The one huge exception is the Griffith's Primary Valuation, which has recently been placed online FREE for all of us to use, courtesy of the wonderful Irish, and the wonderful Canadians who provided the funding for it. Here is the URL for it: http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php Then, once you have searched there for your people, and think that it doesn't really tell you very much; I'd suggest that you sit down and read all 13 pages of this article; which will open up possibilities galore: http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF I said above that "generally" the resources are not online except for Griffith's; however there are thousands of sharing/caring genealogists around the world who are spending a lot of their time TRANSCRIBING many relevant records, and then making them FREELY available on the web for all of us. Some are posted to personal web-sites. Many others are posted to more public sites. For example, at the foot of almost every posting to this list, you should find an 'advertisement' for THIS LIST's own web-site; which is constantly being added to, as listers transcribe more records and share them with us. For ease of access to it for you, here is the URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland Another wonderful resource which Library Ireland has kindly made freely available to all of us online, is Samuel Lewis's 1837 Topographical Dictionary of Ireland. Just look up in it any town or parish which you wish to learn more about, and hopefully it will be there. Here is the URL: http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/index.php In his posting, Sean Rooney mentions the Ordnance Surveys of Ireland. The maps for them can be purchased; but are not generally freely available online. However a wonderful New Zealander: Murray, with the help of more of those wonderful 'giving' volunteers, is slowly putting onto the net ever-increasing map details. Here is the URL to his "kiwi celts" web-site where he has placed them for us: http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html I think that if you click on his red HELP button, you will find lots of great guidance on how to use the maps. Also, talking about the Ordnance Surveys, reprints are now available for purchase of the Ordnance Survey Memoirs, which list lots of details about individual locations, frequently mentioning some people by name etc. Here is a link to some pages from the Ulster Historical Foundation, who sell them: http://www.booksireland.org.uk/index.php?ordnancesurvey And here are other details about them -- but excluding price, from an Australian distributor of them: http://www.gould.com.au/OS-Memoirs-Ireland-Series-p/uhf200.htm (you might find prices when you click on each volume from that first page -- not sure). Don't forget PRONI: The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland: http://www.proni.gov.uk/ And professional researcher Robert Williams, also provides "free pages" available to all on his web-site at Ulster Ancestry: http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ (just click on his FREE PAGES box.) (he also provides a link there to subscribe FREE to his regular newsletter; which always has fascinating snippets in it.) Joan, the list goes on and on; but I have to stop. I guess that in closing, I would urge you to ALWAYS remember GOOGLE. For any terminology or place-name which you want more information about, google will usually provide some answers for you. Additionally, Google BOOKS has an ever-increasing number of out-of-print books which they are placing online, and a search there for family surnames or place-names will often result in some 'finds'. Ooops, I almost forgot one of my most basic research tools for Irish place-names: www.seanruad.com There you can search for townlands and parishes -- as well as baronies. A most wonderful resource. Finally, I would URGE you most strongly to NEVER be hung up on what you believe to be a 'correct' spelling for placenames or surnames (or even forenames) in Ireland. As you delve into the records more and more, you will become aware that multitudinous spellings about for almost every name or place imaginable. This makes our research there so much more difficult, but oh what joy when one suddenly finds a weird spelling which is relevant to our family or place! Welcome to the most frustrating, yet extremely enjoyable world of Irish research. AND I am hoping that MANY OTHERS will find all of the holes and mistakes in what I have written here; and will write TO THE LIST with their own preferences, sources, etc. (hint, hint!!) Ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:15 PM Subject: [CoTyIre] Connolly > Thank you for all the replies I have received. You are a wonderful group - > I'm so glad I found you. > > Ray: Are any of the resources which you mentioned on-line?

Hello Joan. I have nothing specific at all to your families. However this reply is to send you some good research tips which were posted a couple of years back on the rootsweb Fermanagh-Gold list, by one of its members named Sean Rooney. I hope that you will find his summary to be helpful. Regards: Ray in oz. For people who are just starting out on the quest to trace thier roots, I have listed below the most helpful of the records that are out there to help you in your search. good luck ! 2. Civil Registration of Births, Marriages & Deaths Source: General Register Office, Dublin. Search: Marriages 1864 It became compulsory to register Catholic births, marriages and deaths from 1864. Non-Catholic marriages are registered from 1845 onwards. It has been estimated that about 15% of Irish births, marriages and deaths went unregistered in the early years of Civil Registration and a small percentage of births still went unregistered as late as 1900. As marriages often entailed monetary transactions and new land arrangements these were much more likely to be registered, even in the earliest years of registration. 3. Ordnance Survey of Ireland Name Books Clones, Counties Fermanagh & Monaghan The Ordnance Survey of Ireland, conducted between 1824 and 1846, is the only survey of Ireland to have ever been conclusively finished. Under the direction of Thomas Larcom, the Master-General of the Ordnance Survey and the Board of Ordnance, a complete Map of Ireland at the scale of six-inches to one-mile was published. One of the most important functions of the Ordnance Survey was to name the geographical features, prominent buildings and landmarks of each townland so that these could be included on the Ordnance Survey Maps when they were eventually published. This task was given-over to a number of Topographical, or Names Experts. Most of these experts were bilingual Irishmen, quite a few of whom had been Irish Hedge Schoolteachers. The 'Topographical' information was collected in a series of books, one for each of the parishes of Ireland. These books are known as the Ordnance Survey Name Books. Information for each townland was collected and written into the Name Book under five headings: the 'received name', the name finally adopted for the townland and the one placed onto the 6-inch Ordnance Survey Map in 1837. The Name Book also provided the Irish form of the name and in many instances what the Irish form of the townlands' names meant. This was the last stage of the 'Topographical' process. John O'Donovan, the translator of the Annals of the Four Masters, an Irish-speaking scholar and scribe, was the Ordnance Survey's overall Names Expert. It was O'Donovan's responsibility to enter all the Irish versions of names into the Name Books, in addition to the English spelling recommended for the published maps. The 'Orthography', section of the Names Books provides the various spellings for each townland or place and the 'authority section' gives the source from which these variations were derived. This was a controversial part of the Survey, especially in the Irish-speaking areas of Ireland. Thomas Larcom, the head of the Ordnance Survey, and his names expert, John O'Donovan, had a clear policy when it came to the variant spellings and meanings of Irish place-names, which was to adopt 'the version which came closest to the original Irish form of the name'. This showed 'a well-intentioned deference to the Irishness of Irish place-names'. This remained the 'Official Policy' of the Ordnance Survey from the 1830 onwards. For the names of demesnes and houses, the only authority sought was that of the owner of the property. 4. Primary Valuation of Ireland The purpose of the survey, conducted under the direction of Richard Griffith, was to assess the amount of tax every head of household should contribute towards the support of the poor and destitute in their parish. The Primary Valuation was completed and published between 1848 and 1864. Dublin City and County were the first areas of Ireland to have their valuation completed. The Primary Valuation of Ireland recorded the townland address, the name of each occupier, the names of the immediate lessor (the landlord's name), a brief description of the landholding, the number of acres of land in each holding, the value of buildings and land for taxation purposes, together with the overall valuation of each holding. Due to the loss of the majority of Ireland's pre-1901 Census Returns, the Primary Valuation of Ireland, commonly known as 'Griffith's Valuation', has assumed an importance far beyond that originally intended. 5. Primary Valuation of Ireland Cancelled Books Source: Valuation Office, Dublin. The Valuation Office's Cancelled Books are a continuation of Primary Valuation of Ireland. These are hand-written books which detail the changes that have taken place in land occupation and ownership since the Primary Valuation was conducted and completed. These books run concurrently from 1850s until the 1970s when it ceased to be compulsory for local authorities to centrally register landholders for rateable purposes. 6. 1901 Censuses of Ireland Source: NAI., 16/14. . Source: NAI., 18/37. The 1901 Census recorded the following information: Name, Relationship to the Head of Household, Religion, Literacy, Occupation, Age, Marital Status, County of Birth, Ability to Speak English or Irish. In addition to this information the 1901 Census also recorded details of houses (the number of walls, type of roof - whether slate or thatch, the number of windows etc.), the number of outhouses and the name of the immediate lessor (the person who owned the property). The same information was collected in the Census of 1911. One additional and very important question was added in 1911, this was directed specifically at married women who were asked to record the number of years they had been married, the number of children that they had given birth to alive and the number of these children that were still alive. The 1901 and 1911 Censuses of Ireland are the countries only complete surviving population Censuses. Population Censuses date from 1821 in Ireland. However, the majority of the pre-1901 Census Returns have been destroyed, either on purpose by the Government, or in the infamous 1922 Four Courts Fire. 7. Tithe Applotment Assessment Books Civil Parish of Clones, Source: NAI., The Composition Act of 1823 specified that Tithes (a form of tax) due to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, which had hitherto been payable in kind, should now be paid in money. As a result it was necessary to carry out a valuation of the entire county to determine the sum to be paid by each landholder. This was done over the ensuing 15 years, up to the abolition of the tithes in 1838. It is hardly surprisingly that those who were not members of the Church of Ireland fiercely resented the payment of tithes. The Assessment was not applicable to town or city dwellers, or on certain types of land, e.g. tillage in some diocese. This meant that the burden of tithe payments was not distributed evenly, adding to the general resentment felt by the majority of Ireland's population. The information recorded in the Tithe Applotment Books is quite basic. Typically they record the name of the townland, the landholder's name, the area of land in acres, the amount of tithes payable and in some cases the name of the landlord. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> ... I am new to this group and to Irish Genealogy. Any guidance you can give me will be appreciated. ...

Hi Everyone, Replying to all!! Don't forget the 1911 Census of Ireland which is on line at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ The 1911 Census will probably not be of much use to Joan but it's worth including on the list for completeness. Similarly the LDS vital records search, whilst not complete, are definitely worth a look and cover the period that Joan is looking for: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start I hope this helps. Regards Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <ray15@optusnet.com.au> To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Connolly > Hello again Joan. > It is nice to read that others are also sending you information. What a > pity > though that they are doing it privately and not sharing it with the list, > as > we all pick up little snippets from such postings. > (n.b.: If one hits REPLY TO ALL in response to a posting on this list, > their > message will go to the list as well as to the questioner/lister. > Conversely, merely hitting on REPLY will send it back as a private message > to that enquirer.) > > Now, Joan, you asked if any of those resources which Sean Rooney mentioned > in his listings are online. > > My basic answer is that GENERALLY they are NOT online. > > The one huge exception is the Griffith's Primary Valuation, which has > recently been placed online FREE for all of us to use, courtesy of the > wonderful Irish, and the wonderful Canadians who provided the funding for > it. Here is the URL for it: > http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php > > Then, once you have searched there for your people, and think that it > doesn't really tell you very much; I'd suggest that you sit down and read > all 13 pages of this article; which will open up possibilities galore: > http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF > > > I said above that "generally" the resources are not online except for > Griffith's; however there are thousands of sharing/caring genealogists > around the world who are spending a lot of their time TRANSCRIBING many > relevant records, and then making them FREELY available on the web for all > of us. Some are posted to personal web-sites. Many others are posted to > more public sites. For example, at the foot of almost every posting to > this > list, you should find an 'advertisement' for THIS LIST's own web-site; > which > is constantly being added to, as listers transcribe more records and share > them with us. For ease of access to it for you, here is the URL: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > Another wonderful resource which Library Ireland has kindly made freely > available to all of us online, is Samuel Lewis's 1837 Topographical > Dictionary of Ireland. Just look up in it any town or parish which you > wish > to learn more about, and hopefully it will be there. Here is the URL: > http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/index.php > > > In his posting, Sean Rooney mentions the Ordnance Surveys of Ireland. The > maps for them can be purchased; but are not generally freely available > online. > However a wonderful New Zealander: Murray, with the help of more of those > wonderful 'giving' volunteers, is slowly putting onto the net > ever-increasing map details. > Here is the URL to his "kiwi celts" web-site where he has placed them for > us: > http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html > > I think that if you click on his red HELP button, you will find lots of > great guidance on how to use the maps. > > > Also, talking about the Ordnance Surveys, reprints are now available for > purchase of the Ordnance Survey Memoirs, which list lots of details about > individual locations, frequently mentioning some people by name etc. > Here is a link to some pages from the Ulster Historical Foundation, who > sell > them: > http://www.booksireland.org.uk/index.php?ordnancesurvey > > And here are other details about them -- but excluding price, from an > Australian distributor of them: > http://www.gould.com.au/OS-Memoirs-Ireland-Series-p/uhf200.htm > (you might find prices when you click on each volume from that first > page -- > not sure). > > > Don't forget PRONI: The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland: > http://www.proni.gov.uk/ > > > And professional researcher Robert Williams, also provides "free pages" > available to all on his web-site at Ulster Ancestry: > http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ > (just click on his FREE PAGES box.) > (he also provides a link there to subscribe FREE to his regular > newsletter; > which always has fascinating snippets in it.) > > Joan, the list goes on and on; but I have to stop. > > I guess that in closing, I would urge you to ALWAYS remember GOOGLE. For > any terminology or place-name which you want more information about, > google > will usually provide some answers for you. > > Additionally, Google BOOKS has an ever-increasing number of out-of-print > books which they are placing online, and a search there for family > surnames > or place-names will often result in some 'finds'. > > Ooops, I almost forgot one of my most basic research tools for Irish > place-names: www.seanruad.com > There you can search for townlands and parishes -- as well as baronies. A > most wonderful resource. > > Finally, I would URGE you most strongly to NEVER be hung up on what you > believe to be a 'correct' spelling for placenames or surnames (or even > forenames) in Ireland. As you delve into the records more and more, you > will > become aware that multitudinous spellings about for almost every name or > place imaginable. This makes our research there so much more difficult, > but > oh what joy when one suddenly finds a weird spelling which is relevant to > our family or place! > > Welcome to the most frustrating, yet extremely enjoyable world of Irish > research. > > AND I am hoping that MANY OTHERS will find all of the holes and mistakes > in > what I have written here; and will write TO THE LIST with their own > preferences, sources, etc. (hint, hint!!) > > Ray in oz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan" <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> > To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:15 PM > Subject: [CoTyIre] Connolly > > >> Thank you for all the replies I have received. You are a wonderful >> group - >> I'm so glad I found you. >> >> Ray: Are any of the resources which you mentioned on-line? > > > ------------- > Our community web-site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What a fantastic group I have found. I have received so many wonderful replies to my query. I wish to thank everyone who took the time to help me learn basic Irish Genealogy and also those who sent info specific to my search. I plan to distill all that was sent to me about the Connolly family and post it on this list for future researchers. I hope to get that done in the next day or so. Regards and thanks again, Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

Hello Joan, I looked at the Valuations of 1860-1864 but no Arthur Connolly is recorded in Tyrone. In the Tithe Applotment books however one {only one} Arthur Connolly is found Arthur Connolly, County : Tyrone Parish : Termonamongan Townland : Garvagh (Blane) Year of record : 1826 Arthur was a very unique name among Connollys in fact this is the only one I can find in any Valuation. best regards Robert www.ulsterancestry.com > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:17:41 -0700 > From: acadianjoan@yahoo.com > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CoTyIre] Connolly - help please! > > I am new to this group and to Irish Genealogy. Any guidance > you can give me will be appreciated. > > My ancestors, Arthur Connolly and Sarah McLoughlin > (McLaughlin) emigrated from Ireland to Canada. > They are on the 1871 census of Ontario. > They state that they were both born in Ireland in 1811. > > I have found data on 4 of their children residing in Ontario. They were born > between 1842-1852. All state they were born in Ireland. Two state they were born > in Cty Tyrone. One daughter states she came to Canada between 1864-1866. I don’t > know if she came alone or if her family came together. She was about 20 at the > time. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger onto your mobile for free http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/174426567/direct/01/

Thank you for all the replies I have received. You are a wonderful group - I'm so glad I found you. Ray: Are any of the resources which you mentioned on-line? To the group: Irish Family History Foundation question I have a question about using the index. I found a promising marriage of an Arthur Connolly, but I can't find a corresponding marriage on the same date in the same place to a Sarah McLoughlin. How do those records work? If I searched for a marriage and searched under first the groom's name and then the bride's name, would the indexes point me towards the same marriage record? Thanks again, Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

I am new to this group and to Irish Genealogy. Any guidance you can give me will be appreciated. My ancestors, Arthur Connolly and Sarah McLoughlin (McLaughlin) emigrated from Ireland to Canada. They are on the 1871 census of Ontario. They state that they were both born in Ireland in 1811. I have found data on 4 of their children residing in Ontario. They were born between 1842-1852. All state they were born in Ireland. Two state they were born in Cty Tyrone. One daughter states she came to Canada between 1864-1866. I don’t know if she came alone or if her family came together. She was about 20 at the time. The known children of Arthur Connolly and Sarah McLoughlin (McLaughlin) are Margaret Anne, John, Sarah J. (Jane I think) and Arthur. Thank you for your time. Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA