searching for the marriage of Robert McGucken (born 1909) and Olive? child Edna Mary McGucken born in Cookstown in 1937. Regards Lyn Baker

http://www.groireland.ie/ website has all the details. Lyn Baker wrote: > could someone tell me where I order Irish BDM's from please. can you order over the internet and what is the charge? > > regards > Lyn Baker > > ------------- > Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 091104-0, 04/11/2009 > Tested on: 04/11/2009 22:16:33 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > >

Dear List See below. This is useful stuff. Two entries for Donagheady, some for Leckpatrick and Glendermott. The link is at http://sources.nli.ie Sincerely Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <irl-dublin-city@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:15 AM Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN-CITY] LINK TO IRISH DATA > Sources:-http://sources.nli.ie > > A National Library of Ireland data base for Irish Research, will allow > anyone anywhere to > search across 196,574 records, for Irish Manuscripts and periodical > material > covering subjectw hich range from Art, architecture and achaelogy, through > economics and genealogy to history, polictics, literature and science and > zoology. > > To be able to acess this data base online -removes the need to travel to > the > Library or to a research institution, which holds the published > catalogues, > just to start the process of researching, whatever material is of interest > to the researcher. > For the first time you are able to search both manuscripts and > periodicals, > so therefore one may find maps, estate papers, and business records, which > initially would be of a great use for those > preparing for a trip to Ireland to further their research. > > What is wonderful is that an interactive map showing you where the > location > of all archives and libraries that have Irish material listed is held, > with > full contact details. > > So from the Autumn in Ireland for 2009 ( now if you live in the south ) > your link is at http://sources.nli.ie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-DUBLIN-CITY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

have just had another look at my tree. Robert McGucken married Olive? they had 4 children. in the 1930's. nothing more known of Olive. Would love to find a surname, marriage, anything. Regards 'Lyn Baker

Hi I am new to this list and am searching for information on James McGucken born c 1873. wife Sarah born c 876, children Willie b 1902, James b 1903, Thomas C b 1905, Martha b 1907, Robert b 1909 Robert married Elizabeth Fleming Wright c 1937 in ireland. They had three children and she then divorced Robert. Elizabeth died in 1970's in ireland. Looking for any information re this family or marriage for Robert and Elizabeth, or his parents James and Sarah. Reciprocal lookups done in Australia regards Lyn Baker AUSTRALIA

Hi Just thought I would add to this. In case anyone doesn't know. Binghamton is a city in upstate New York. It is where New York is north of Pennsylvania. My sister's family lives there so I thought I would add this so anyone NOT from NY knows where it is. Sue in NY

Someone on another list I belong to transcribes cemetery headstones. These are from St Patrick's Cemetery on Riverside Drive, in Binghamton NY. Charles Doonen Born at Co, Tyrone, Ireland and died May 12, 1826. The rest are from other counties, but I'll cut and paste them just in case: Daniel Coughlin Born at Cork, Ireland and died July 25, 1910 age 84 years. Christopher Halpin Born at Dublin, Ireland and died Sept 3, 1929 age 82 years. Richard Golden Born at Limerick, Ireland and died Feb 7, 1908 age 95 years. William Casey Born at Douncouney, Cork, Ireland 1819-1902. Patrick Cooney Born at Co, Caven, Ireland 1837-1897. Thomas H. Gleason Born at Tipperary, Ireland and died Jan 6, 1901 age 42 years. Patrick Conway Born at Co. Mayo, Ireland and died Dec 6, 1885 age 61 years. Michael J. Lyons Born at Ennistymon, Co. Clare, Ireland and died April 16, 1888 age 56 years. Mary O'Neil Born at Co. Clare, Ireland and died Oct 4, 1885 age 91 years. Charles Tammany Born in Ireland and died May 22, 1895 age 81 years. Dennis Bolen Born at Crea, Co. Cork, Ireland and died March 30, 1893 age 86 years. John Crowe Born at Glanomara, Co. Clare, Ireland died Feb 1, 1857 age 47 years. Michael Quilty Born at Co. Clare, Ireland died Oct 1, 1884 age 57 years. Denis J. Sullivan Born at Ardea Parish, Tuosist, Co. Kerry, Ireland Nov 17, 1844 and died May 22, 1880. Michael Devitt Born at Co. Clare, Ireland died Sept 26, 1885 age 66 years. Catherine Burns Born at Lowck, Hadon, Queens Co., Ireland 1815-1894. Martin Killela Born at Co. Slygo, Ireland died June 6, 1893 age 65 years. Patrick Mangan Born at Kilimey, Co, Clare, Ireland Born 1838 and died at the age of 70 years. Patrick Dillon Born at Co. Wexford, Ireland 1798-1873. Bridget Morrissy Born at Cappafean, Co. Clare, Ireland and died Sept 8, 1881 age 37 years. Peter Donigan Born at Multifarnhan, Co. Westmeath, Ireland June 29, 1800 and died Nov 5, 1884. John Sullivan Born at Dunmanway, Co. Cork, Ireland died June 26, 1870 age 54 years. William Desmond Born at Clountead, Co. Cork, Ireland died Feb 5, 1867 age 40 years. John Hanley Born at Patrick's Well, Co. Limerick, Ireland died July 25, 1868 age 50 years. Clark B. Smith Born at Dingle, Ireland May 5, 1805 and died April 11, 1895. Winefride Guilfoy; Born at Herbertstown, Co. Limerick, Ireland died Aug 12, 1864 age 80 years. John Lang Born at Ventry, Co. Kerry, Ireland 1821-1891. Michael Hickey Born at Killaloe, Co. Clare, Ireland 1834-1897. Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

Have you tried the LDS Irish Birth Marriage and Death Index? http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;c= 1408347 Here is a birth from that index that is a good fit for Robert: Name: Robert McGuckin Registration district: Cookstown Record type: BIRTHS Registration date - quarter and year: Jan - Mar 1909 Estimated birth year: Age: Mother's surnames: Film number: 101072 Volume: 1 Page: 535 Digital GS number: 4194691 Image number: 00372 Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958 For 5 Euros you can view a transcript of the Civil birth record on: http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com <http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/> Here is the family in the 1911 Census, living in Cookstown: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Cookstown_Urban/Oldt own_Street/858668/ Residents of house number 3 in Oldtown Street (Cookstown Urban, Tyrone) McGucken James 38 Male Presbyterian born Co Antrim McGucken Sarah 35 Female born Co. Tyrone, 5 children, all living McGucken Willie 9 Male born Co. Tyrone McGucken James 8 Male born Co. Tyrone McGucken Thomas C 6 Male born Co. Tyrone McGucken Martha 4 Female born Co. Tyrone McGucken Robert 2 Male born Co. Tyrone Laurel Baty -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Baker Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:22 AM To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [CoTyIre] James McGUCKEN born 1873 Cookstown, Tyrone Hi I am new to this list and am searching for information on James McGucken born c 1873. wife Sarah born c 876, children Willie b 1902, James b 1903, Thomas C b 1905, Martha b 1907, Robert b 1909 Robert married Elizabeth Fleming Wright c 1937 in ireland. They had three children and she then divorced Robert. Elizabeth died in 1970's in ireland. Looking for any information re this family or marriage for Robert and Elizabeth, or his parents James and Sarah. Reciprocal lookups done in Australia regards Lyn Baker AUSTRALIA ------------- Our community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have never seen my posting on the list before, so am trying again. My ancestors were James and Matilda (Martha) Gilmore (Gilmour ?)from Knockaraven or Omagh, Co. Tyrone. James was born abt 1803 and died in Omagh abt 1846 as far as we know. Matilda (Martha) was born 1807 and emigrated to America in 1847 with at least six of their nine children. Children were James, Ann, John, Eliza, William, Catherine, Isebelle,Francis, and Thomas I was able to find birth and baptism records for the Dromore Presbyterian church for the last three children, but nothing else. Does anyone have other info or clues for me? I would love to find James burial site. He was not buried in the little church at Dromore. Thanks so much for any help. Kathy Gilmore

I haven't seen anything come up from anyone else either searching for or knowing something about the Burnside/Hogg family that are our ancestors. William Burnside married Margaret Hogg in the area of County Tyrone so far as we know. Their children John (or Joseph), Robert, Margaret and James were born in County Tyrone according to family stories. William had two brothers who also came to the USA, probably somewhere between 1812 and 1825 as nearly as I can figure out. His brothers, Robert (the older of the three) and Joseph (the younger of the three) settled in Pennsylvania. Robert stayed in the Philadephia area. William and Margaret eventually ended up in Londonderry, Ohio and are buried there under a large marble slab, supposedly imported from Ireland according to a local Londonderry source who showed us around what's left of the little town. We think they were most likely Presbyterian, with their ancestry going back to Scotland, perhaps. Please let me know if you have any information that might help make some connection there where I can find records. I know there are a few that got the Flax Growers honor-thinking perhaps the Robert Burnside there might be an ancestor since we also have Roberts (but doesn't everybody!!!) Shirley Burnside Oklahoma/USA Jsburnside@pldi.net In God We Trust

Tommy, I think the link to KiwiCelts may be helpful: http://ireland.kiwicelts.com/irishMap/ireMap.html From, Clare L. (aka TyroneIre) -----Original Message----- From: doowopdoc@aol.com To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 3:18 pm Subject: [CoTyIre] North Ireland Maps oes anyone have a good online source for maps? Google, Multi Map, etc are good oad maps, but don't show waterways, canals, rail roads, county lines, etc., or ther geographic data. These are helpful when looking at the on line Griffith's aluation maps. Also, does anyone have any way to overlap townland maps to road maps? Thanks. Tommy Bryant ------------- ur community web-site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cotyroneireland ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Does anyone have a good online source for maps? Google, Multi Map, etc are good road maps, but don't show waterways, canals, rail roads, county lines, etc., or other geographic data. These are helpful when looking at the on line Griffith's Valuation maps. Also, does anyone have any way to overlap townland maps to road maps? Thanks. Tommy Bryant

Listers should be warned that many 19th century BMD records are non- existent, having been destroyed in a 1922 fire at the records office during "the troubles" Make sure you know the name of the townland not just the county before you contact any of the research companies. Otherwise you will start on an expensive needle in a haystack search. My ancestors were married mid to late 1830s in Clogher and started a family, however after spending a lot of money I found out that records for that time period do not exist. A friend of mine from Ottawa researching his ancestors went to N. Ireland with Ontario land deeds and other documents dating back to 1835. The Irish researcher jokingly suggested that Canadian records were more complete than what he had to work with. And old Irish church records if located can be daunting since some priests (depending on their education) made BMD entries combining Latin, English and Gaelic. Good luck JIM On 2-Nov-09, at 3:01 AM, cotyroneireland-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > You are receiving this email because you subscribed to the > CoTyroneIreland-D mailing list. If you no longer wish to receive > these messages, please follow the instructions on http:// > lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NIR/CoTyroneIreland.html > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ulster Historical Foundation (Joan) > 2. Re: Ulster Historical Foundation (Claire K) > 3. Re: Ulster Historical Foundation (BonnieM) > 4. Ulster Historical Foundation (Joan) > 5. Free Look Ups - New England; For AcadianJoan (false) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 04:29:58 -0800 (PST) > From: Joan <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <174565.89178.qm@web59414.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Folks, > > What do you folks think of the Ulster Historical Foundation? I > notice that if I become a member, I have access to many records, > but mainly in a few counties. (Down and Antrim if I remember > correctly?) All that I have found so far on my family members has > been in County Tyrone, but I see on a map that Down and Antrim are > pretty close. > > Has anyone purchased a membership to this site? What do you think? > > Thanks, > > Joan > > > Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. > Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA > Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:41:23 -0500 > From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > To: Joan <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> > Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <A6644C87-346F-4415-9C88-2A0EB1F760FD@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > The UHF is, among other things, the official (government-appointed) > research center for Cos. Antrim and Down, so, yes, they have more > Antrim / Down records than anything else. They do, however, collect > records from all over Ireland (not just Northern Ireland) and have > some resources that are country-wide (Flaxgrowers List, Calendar of > Wills, etc.). They also do research for a fee in both the Dublin and > Belfast depositories, organize seminars / conferences, publish > journals, etc. I've been a happy member of their Guild for years, > but not primarily for their online databases (most of which I've > either exhausted or don't apply to my research interests). Like you, > most of my folks are in Tyrone (the rest in Donegal), and I have > noticed that the UHF is getting more Tyrone material, but it's > nowhere near the volume of what they have for Antrim and Down. They > will never have Tyrone BMD / parish registers, because the county > center for Tyrone (Irish World, formerly Heritage World) (and the > affiliated Irish Family History Foundation site) has those. The UHF > comes annually to the US on a lecture tour (in different parts of the > country each time), so it's worth going to see them if they're ever > in traveling distance of you (or in a location you'd like to visit). > I highly recommend them, but want to clarify -- you wouldn't be > subscribing to a site (like you do with Ancestry), you'd be joining a > society (in their case, their affiliated Guild) that has a Members > Only section of the site as one member benefit (and lots of other > member benefits). > > HTH > > Claire K. > > > On Nov 1, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Joan wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> What do you folks think of the Ulster Historical Foundation? I >> notice that if I become a member, I have access to many records, >> but mainly in a few counties. (Down and Antrim if I remember >> correctly?) All that I have found so far on my family members has >> been in County Tyrone, but I see on a map that Down and Antrim are >> pretty close. >> >> Has anyone purchased a membership to this site? What do you think?... > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:34:47 -0500 > From: "BonnieM" <blmalmat@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > To: <COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001ca5b21$fe336570$0380a8c0@Bonz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Unfortunately for me, Irish World/IFHF's Tyrone coverage is mostly > Catholic > parishes; some Presbyterian Church records and I think all of four COI > parishes, so unless your ancestry in that area is Catholic, you > won't find > much. My Catholics are in Donegal, not Tyrone, unfortunately. > > Irish World not added more online in years. I check occasionally, > same list. > I had hoped that with things coming online with the IFHF, we'd see > more > parishes/religions, but I guess it's not happening. > > It could be worse. Their coverage for Fermanagh is practically non- > existant. > Other nearby places like Monaghan County doesn't even have a center. > > Ah, the joys of Irish research. > > I do like the UHF coverage and as a member, I've got my money's > worth for > the Antrim/Down records. My ancestry is in Tyrone, Donegal, Antrim, > Monaghan, Fermanagh and I have two families for which I've never > got beyond > the dreaded "N. Ireland" broad description. The families are from > at least > three different religions. > > Things are improving, slowly. I hope that more becomes available > over time. > I just might break down those brick walls! It would be nice if I do so > before I kick the bucket. :p > > Bonz > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:41 AM > To: Joan > Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > > Like you, most of my folks are in Tyrone (the rest in Donegal), and > I have > noticed that the UHF is getting more Tyrone material, but it's > nowhere near > the volume of what they have for Antrim and Down. They will never > have > Tyrone BMD / parish registers, because the county center for Tyrone > (Irish > World, formerly Heritage World) (and the affiliated Irish Family > History > Foundation site) has those. > > Claire K. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:44:50 -0800 (PST) > From: Joan <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <116010.27719.qm@web59415.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks for the replies. Great info from people in the know. > > Joan > > > Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. > Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA > Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:10:53 -0800 (PST) > From: false <hart4god@yahoo.com> > Subject: [CoTyIre] Free Look Ups - New England; For AcadianJoan > To: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <691474.41238.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > Thank you, Joan, for your kind offer. > ? > I found this entry on the site you gave: > ? > ? > Name:? Rivard, Malvina??? (husband:? James Murphy) > Town:? Lowell > Year:? 1894 > Volume 443 > Page 188 > Type:? Marriage > ? > I'd like to have a copy of this marriage record - I am really > looking for the parents of?her husband, James Murphy.? If there are > witnesses to the marriage, that would be valuable information.? > Also, do you know of any way of finding out if they had children?? > ? > Thank you, > Diane > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the COTYRONEIRELAND list administrator, send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the COTYRONEIRELAND mailing list, send an > email to COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > COTYRONEIRELAND-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of COTYRONEIRELAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 217 > *********************************************** >

Thank you, Joan, for your kind offer.   I found this entry on the site you gave:     Name:  Rivard, Malvina    (husband:  James Murphy) Town:  Lowell Year:  1894 Volume 443 Page 188 Type:  Marriage   I'd like to have a copy of this marriage record - I am really looking for the parents of her husband, James Murphy.  If there are witnesses to the marriage, that would be valuable information.  Also, do you know of any way of finding out if they had children?    Thank you, Diane

Unfortunately for me, Irish World/IFHF's Tyrone coverage is mostly Catholic parishes; some Presbyterian Church records and I think all of four COI parishes, so unless your ancestry in that area is Catholic, you won't find much. My Catholics are in Donegal, not Tyrone, unfortunately. Irish World not added more online in years. I check occasionally, same list. I had hoped that with things coming online with the IFHF, we'd see more parishes/religions, but I guess it's not happening. It could be worse. Their coverage for Fermanagh is practically non-existant. Other nearby places like Monaghan County doesn't even have a center. Ah, the joys of Irish research. I do like the UHF coverage and as a member, I've got my money's worth for the Antrim/Down records. My ancestry is in Tyrone, Donegal, Antrim, Monaghan, Fermanagh and I have two families for which I've never got beyond the dreaded "N. Ireland" broad description. The families are from at least three different religions. Things are improving, slowly. I hope that more becomes available over time. I just might break down those brick walls! It would be nice if I do so before I kick the bucket. :p Bonz -----Original Message----- From: cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cotyroneireland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:41 AM To: Joan Cc: COTYRONEIRELAND@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CoTyIre] Ulster Historical Foundation Like you, most of my folks are in Tyrone (the rest in Donegal), and I have noticed that the UHF is getting more Tyrone material, but it's nowhere near the volume of what they have for Antrim and Down. They will never have Tyrone BMD / parish registers, because the county center for Tyrone (Irish World, formerly Heritage World) (and the affiliated Irish Family History Foundation site) has those. Claire K.

Thanks for the replies. Great info from people in the know. Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

The UHF is, among other things, the official (government-appointed) research center for Cos. Antrim and Down, so, yes, they have more Antrim / Down records than anything else. They do, however, collect records from all over Ireland (not just Northern Ireland) and have some resources that are country-wide (Flaxgrowers List, Calendar of Wills, etc.). They also do research for a fee in both the Dublin and Belfast depositories, organize seminars / conferences, publish journals, etc. I've been a happy member of their Guild for years, but not primarily for their online databases (most of which I've either exhausted or don't apply to my research interests). Like you, most of my folks are in Tyrone (the rest in Donegal), and I have noticed that the UHF is getting more Tyrone material, but it's nowhere near the volume of what they have for Antrim and Down. They will never have Tyrone BMD / parish registers, because the county center for Tyrone (Irish World, formerly Heritage World) (and the affiliated Irish Family History Foundation site) has those. The UHF comes annually to the US on a lecture tour (in different parts of the country each time), so it's worth going to see them if they're ever in traveling distance of you (or in a location you'd like to visit). I highly recommend them, but want to clarify -- you wouldn't be subscribing to a site (like you do with Ancestry), you'd be joining a society (in their case, their affiliated Guild) that has a Members Only section of the site as one member benefit (and lots of other member benefits). HTH Claire K. On Nov 1, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Joan wrote: > Hi Folks, > > What do you folks think of the Ulster Historical Foundation? I > notice that if I become a member, I have access to many records, > but mainly in a few counties. (Down and Antrim if I remember > correctly?) All that I have found so far on my family members has > been in County Tyrone, but I see on a map that Down and Antrim are > pretty close. > > Has anyone purchased a membership to this site? What do you think?...

Hi Folks, What do you folks think of the Ulster Historical Foundation? I notice that if I become a member, I have access to many records, but mainly in a few counties. (Down and Antrim if I remember correctly?) All that I have found so far on my family members has been in County Tyrone, but I see on a map that Down and Antrim are pretty close. Has anyone purchased a membership to this site? What do you think? Thanks, Joan Researching BOND, MEAGHER and PELLERIN in Port Felix, Nova Scotia. Researching LAFORET in Williamsburg NY and E. Boston MA Researching CONNOLLY in Cty Tryone Ireland and Ontario Canada

Oh dear, Joan: I didn't mean to set that vicious animal on you. Apologies! LOL. Ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> ... Ray, > > It's funny that you should mention the Irish Naming Pattern and then have > it bite me in the face!! I have been utilizing it. The children of Arthur > and Sarah seem to follow the pattern for the most part which I thought > may/may not give me the parents of Arthur and Sarah. > > But, I neglected to recognize that, of course, it means there probably is > another Arthur Connolly and also probably another Sarah McLaughlin too. Oh > dear.... > > Thanks for pointing it out though. It is very useful info. ...

Hello once more, Joan. Another thought prompted by the part of your posting below which I have left intact. Google for "naming pattern" Ireland >From the results, you will see how sons and daughters were named from OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS, by those who followed the naming pattern. Accordingly, a father named Arthur who had several sons, would expect that each of his sons would name their eldest son "Arthur" after him. Now, if you think that this might have been done a few generations earlier with a paternal ancestor named Arthur, you might be able to see how a LOT of distantly related people could have the same -- even relatively otherwise uncommon -- forename. THIS is one of the big issues in Irish genealogy; and shows how we have to tread VERY CAREFULLY whenever we feel tempted to make an ASSUMPTION about relationships, merely because we have enountered someone of the same forename. (And in fact that holds true for our genealogical research world-wide, also.) HTH some more. Ray in oz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan" <acadianjoan@yahoo.com> ... I'm a bit confused however. It appears that there must have been two Arthur Connollys in Cty Tyrone at the same time. From what I hear Arthur is an unusual name for this place and time. So I'm surprised to find two of them. You don't suppose that an error was made in the name of the mother on the record do you? Have you guys found errors in these records before? I recently posted another baptism, Mary Connolly, with the same parents, Arthur and Rose. She was baptised 25 Jul 1855. I have my Arthur and Sarah in Canada on the 1871 census with a Mary who was born in Ireland. Her age is listed as 12 which puts her birth at 1859. I know - it's a stretch to think that Mary born in 1855 is the same Mary who was in Canada in 1871. But what do you think? ...